Bob, it is a sad truth that you are probably correct. Since the Jewish holocaust there has been Cambodia, Rawanda, Serbia, and Sudan, all attempts at genocide (and they are only the ones I can remember without research).
Posted by: Bob [x] - (203.9.176.---)
Date: January 27, 2005 04:11PM
the americans choose to intervene in genocides when it suits them that's the only problem. Sudan for example has been largely ignored since the genocide began when help from western countries might actually stop the genocide
I don't want to speak for TConX, but I think his point in posting that pic was that wheteher you look at WWII or the Iraqi conflict some things are the same. I don't believe he was trying to put down America or their military, just trying to point out that atrrocities happen in war. The difference between Hitler's reign and the current US government system is that when these sorts of things came to light the US government did something about it, as any modern civilised country would.
I would agree with you that these sorts have things have happened form both sides of every conflict to some extent. War is changing with modern communication methods and appetites, and given the level of media in the US the soldiers who did those things in Iraq should have known better. What people need to be careful of is generalising the actions of those soldiers to the entire US military, or even worse, the entire US population. Just like in WWII, it would be wrong to generalise the actions of the fascist Nazi's and the SS to the entire German Army or the entire German population.
Yes countries pick and choose their conflicts. My belief is that the UN should be the one to gather nations together to stand up to those sorts of attrocities, and that way the work-load would get shared around more.
Posted by: Kevin [x] - (203.9.176.---)
Date: January 28, 2005 12:38AM
Correct me if I am wrong, but the combined assaults of the Western Allied forces (primarily bombers) and the fact that the Germans overextended their reach into soviet territory served as a linch pin to the defeat of the Germans. The soviets put pressure on from the east as the push continued from the west.
one thing that has allways puzzled me is prior to WWII the red cross figures showed a fraction over 3.9 million jews all toll for Europe/now don't get me wrong if only one person died as a result of racial hatred it is a crime and we all know terrible things happened,but how did more people die than even existed? one theory was that the Germans had to pay 2000 marks for each one killed so a lot of people were made up/it was also stated that a lot of jewish people moved & changed their names. I would love to here the truth if there is such a thing anymore.
Joe49, as I stated I was going just from memory and had done no research on the matter. Having said that, given that Iraq is in the news daily at the moment, I am surprised I did not think of the Kurds in that list.