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Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: August 23, 2011 10:15AM

"I yam sofa king wetow dead" the mantra of the young (*facepalm*)

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BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: August 23, 2011 10:32AM

Haha! When I was working for the skoo distrik I was happy to see that some of the kids are actually pretty smart. Unfortunately they were a small minority and the rest acted like a bunch of drunken monkeys. Other than some fashion changes it was really no different than when I was a kid. A handful of decent children and the rest a bunch of shit heads.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: August 23, 2011 01:27PM

A few years back I was gettin a new fridge, retiring mine to the shop and havin a party all in the same weekend, so ...

I put a handful of paint markers on top of the fridge and told everyone at the party to have their verbal way with the markers and the fridge. By the end of the night there were all manner of witicisms adornin the fridge, one of which was the quote from my post above.

The next day we were havin a shop meeting and our resident web head was lookin at the fridge and came to that quote, read it several times with a puzzled look on his face and finally asked "WTF's that sposta mean?".

We all gathered around and told him to read it slowly out loud. It was all any of us could do to keep from just bustin out laughin as Clay recited it at least 5 times before finally gettin it .... Good Times smiling
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BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: August 23, 2011 01:51PM

Those kinds of things are much harder for some folks to get than others. It doesn't mean they're tards just that their brains don't process written stuff phonetically as well as others unless they read it aloud. Some never get it.

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Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: August 23, 2011 03:38PM

I didn mean to say Clay was a tard but I will say his nick name of "the ferret" certainly had merit. He accumulated that moniker because when he spoke he sounded amazingly like the ferret in the Budweiser ads grinning
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It is one thing to change letters and word phrasing to impede simple deduction of what's being represented, yet even if basic phonetics are applied to what's there it can easily be interpreted as in the example I gave, so long as one has an understanding of phonetics that is.

The story and example you gave takes the level of obfuscation to a completely different level as letters are completely left out that make it more like a jig saw puzzle to decipher than a matter of phonetics eye popping
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BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: August 23, 2011 05:15PM

The point of my examples was the use of other real English words that are phonetically similar to the intended and it usually takes reading it aloud to get the meaning, which was also what the professor's intent was. Glomming together otherwise meaningless syllabic/phonetic bits and pieces does not present the same challenge and you're right, it takes it to another level.
GAK67 Report This Comment
Date: August 23, 2011 05:30PM

Mrkim, your response makes me wonder if you understood what Blahx3's post was saying.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: August 23, 2011 05:57PM

MrKim: what letters in the words I wrote or in the "Laddle Rat Rotten Hut" example I linked to were left out? They are all complete and real words with no letters left out and are phonetically similar enough to the intended message that if read aloud one could get the meaning, especially the one based on a story most English speaking people are familiar enough with. Yes, it is a puzzle (and comical IMO) as intended to be and the use of real words in place of words that actually make sense in the story or phrase adds another level of difficulty because you have to think phonetically while reading otherwise nonsensical combinations of real words. Part of your trained word recognition has to be suppressed in order to get it.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: August 23, 2011 06:53PM

Take it like ya like it dudes but let's take just the title of the story where a bit if simple analysis will point to what I'm saying.

Laddle is not a word in the English language, at least not according to Websters, therefore dispensing with the idea the author used other words phonetically similar to relay his message. Nor with any amount of phonetic contortions can it be pronounced as the word it intends to playfully construe because the letter "a" is never pronounced as an "i" unless used in conjunction with another vowel, which in this case seems to be absent. Had the author used "Liddle" instead, though it's a noun, it would have at least been a word and would then validate the concept you espouse behind the authors word play.

BTW, according to the Urban Dictionary, "laddle" is a word [www.urbandictionary.com], however, I doubt this slang mish mash existed at the time of the authors penning his story in 1940.

Rat of course is a word, so we're good there. Though the author started off great he seriously dropped the ball in trying to convey the word "red" as his meaning since the letters "at" can never be found to phonetically produce the linguistic equivalent of "ed".

Rotten, here again we obviously have a common word yet once more under no existing phonetic mangling can the "otten" that follows the R be twisted to pronounce or convey the sounds of the letters "iding".

Hut once more we have a word, yet again no phonetic similarities other than the fact it starts with the same letter "h" as the word "hood" nor can it be commonly perceived that the letters "ut" will be pronounced in any manner to make the same sounds as the letters "ood" as used in the word "hood"

I understand poetic license, and mangling of language, playin with wurdz, hell I take it and do it all the time. This however is not emblematic of the basis of your argument as though there are mostly common words used, not all are, and we've only explored the title itself! Secondly, having used letters and combinations of letters that phonetically do not lead to the pronunciation of the intended words, again your argument falls flat on its face.

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GAK67 Report This Comment
Date: August 23, 2011 07:39PM

Mrkim, the fact that you interpreted Ladle Rat Rotten Hut as Little Red Riding Hood is evidence that the phonetics in the example given are a good enough approximation, although I do agree with you that the phonetics of BlahX3's example and the Ladle Rat Rotten Hut story are more difficult to interpret than what was written on your fridge.

Please note the word in the title is Ladle, not Laddle. Ladle is an English word.

Can you please give an example of a word in BlahX3's example or link where letters have been left out (apart from American spelling of course - honor instead of honour, etc). I have only had a cursory look but have not found any.

Also, what is "wetow" from your original post. I cannot find that in a dictionary. I can understand if it was "we tow".



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BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: August 23, 2011 08:08PM

Just read it buddy. I misspelled "ladle." It's correct in the page I put the link to. You don't get the intent because you didn't bother to read the page. How do you spell the sound of a "Bronx cheer?" PLPLPLPLP ? smiling
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BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: August 23, 2011 08:12PM

I surmised the "wetow" was not intended to be a real word but a phonetic representation of part of the word "retarded" that would only apply to one having a speech impediment.
GAK67 Report This Comment
Date: August 23, 2011 08:48PM

BlahX3: Yeah, that's what I got too regarding wetow, but Mrkim was complaining about your post not using real words when his own post had non-real words in it.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: August 23, 2011 09:00PM

you guys have sunk to a new record low. (headexplode)
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: August 23, 2011 09:00PM

Mrkim, the fact that you interpreted Ladle Rat Rotten Hut as Little Red Riding Hood is evidence that the phonetics in the example given are a good enough approximation, although I do agree with you that the phonetics of BlahX3's example and the Ladle Rat Rotten Hut story are more difficult to interpret than what was written on your fridge.

Just because I could contortedly decipher Ladle Rat Rotten Hut does not make a case for it being done through the use of phonetics, as this was not the case. It was more through a process of disassociative logic than anything like phontics.

Please note the word in the title is Ladle, not Laddle. Ladle is an English word.

Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner, my bad. Looks like my early evening rum concoction took a toll on this one and I'll cede that point.

Can you please give an example of a word in BlahX3's example or link where letters have been left out (apart from American spelling of course - honor instead of honour, etc). I have only had a cursory look but have not found any.

Ok, now here we can wrestle with semantics if that's your bag but the position as stated in my previous post is that letters were indeed missing that would have allowed the authors point to have come across more clearly. The author instead chose to utilize words that will not phonetically produce an association between the ideas in his head and what appears in print OR if spoken so essentially the resultant word choices failed to produce the desired result.

Also, what is "wetow" from your original post. I cannot find that in a dictionary. I can understand if it was "we tow".

I was never claiming to utilize words that exist as did the author, though indeed some of what I used were in fact words, so what if any is your point unless it's simply to disagree (*facepalm*)

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GAK67 Report This Comment
Date: August 23, 2011 09:29PM

Just because I could contortedly decipher Ladle Rat Rotten Hut does not make a case for it being done through the use of phonetics, as this was not the case. It was more through a process of disassociative logic than anything like phontics.

This is just semantics. Regardless if it was phonetics or "a process of disassociative logic", the point is that Ladle Rat Rotten Hut was a close enough approximation to Little Red Riding Hood. To use your own words, what if any is your point unless it's simply to disagree? Maybe you just like criticizing others to make yourself feel superior?

Ok, now here we can wrestle with semantics if that's your bag but the position as stated in my previous post is that letters were indeed missing that would have allowed the authors point to have come across more clearly. The author instead chose to utilize words that will not phonetically produce an association between the ideas in his head and what appears in print OR if spoken so essentially the resultant word choices failed to produce the desired result.

The same argument could be said of the use of "wetow' in your original post, but as it is a matter of opinion (even though you state your opinion as if it is a fact) I will respect your right to have a different opinion to others.

I was never claiming to utilize words that exist as did the author, though indeed some of what I used were in fact words, so what if any is your point unless it's simply to disagree

My bad. I simply had not read your post carefully enough. I had assumed you were attempting to hold BlahX3 and Ladle Rat Rotten Hut to the same standard you had used, but I see now you were holding them to some arbitrary standard you devised afterwards. I still do not see what the author has claimed that he has not done. He has used other English words to convey the story if the words he would normally use were unavailable. You claimed that "though there are mostly common words used, not all are", but the author never claimed that he would use common words, but all the words he uses are words in the English language.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: August 23, 2011 10:20PM

Yakno GAK, if you wanna continue on this topic, feel free to do so. Having made every point I care to in the matter I see no need to continue.

Evidently you and Blah see this authors babblings of interest and assign some level of validity to it, and that's great. For myself it seems much more like some convoluted exhaustive form of mental masturbation, but that's just my perspective.

You can think your way and I'll think mine, fair enough confused
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BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: August 24, 2011 12:06PM

It is my impression that the Rotten Hut thing was intended to be read aloud for fun even though the blurb from the author didn't seem to say that. I have heard people recite it and passages certainly are funny as hell sounding to me. To each his own. Please don't lump me in with Gak though (no offense Gak). I am me. I never see eye to eye on everything with anyone but do on some things with most people. Jeez, I almost sound normal. I gotta knock that shit off.

BTW my use of "skoo districk" was probably what Kim was referring to about leaving letters out but that was not intended as a phonetic anything or example of anything, just stupid way of saying/writing "school district" because I thought we were talking about stupid people in the 1st place. I often use that when talking about my work there because it was run by stupid people.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: August 24, 2011 03:07PM

Please accept my apologies Blah. I seldom make such generalities of association for exactly that reason, my bad (*facepalm*)

Secondly the "missing letters" deal was in no way intended to reflect on your having said skoo disrik (or whatever that was totally
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GAK67 Report This Comment
Date: August 24, 2011 05:14PM

No offence taken here Blah - I feel the same way.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: August 24, 2011 06:34PM

No apology needed in the 1st place.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: August 24, 2011 07:39PM

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