jgoins Report This Comment Date: July 10, 2007 12:19PM
Anonymous Wrote:
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> What a joke! A cop pulls some guy over for
> speeding and can't even arrest him for being an
> ILLEGAL immigrant! It doesn't even really matter,
> the plans have been in place for a long time, you
> know, that silly conspiracy type stuff.... NEW
> WORLD ORDER..... people cry over the silly shit
> like.... make all illegals leave, well, get ready
> for some formal stuff, you know, bullshit for the
> people lies (typical Bush talk), the US, Canada
> and Mexico as "one". Just a start, the real goal
> is to make the whole world one big state.......
> whatever.
Bush hasn't the time left to accomplish this, he leaves office in January '09.
So if it comes about you won't be able to blame him, you will have to blame
whoever we put n office to replace him. The one world thing can't be done
overnight, it will take years and several world leaders.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: July 10, 2007 12:51PM
Yep, I've done quite a bit of reading lately on the proposed NAU (North
American Union) which is in the works as we speak. It is the intended
unification of Canada, the US and Mexico into one union with each government
giving up its individual sovereignty. This is part of a grand plan to give all
three nations more global strength at the cost of eachs individuality as a
nation.
Anyone who feels like they want Canadians or Mexicans imparting their ideas upon
American society, this is made just for you! However, if you like myself, feel
that this will only lead to the dissolution of America as we know it should be
aware that this is exactly the intended result.
With the recent defeat in the Senate of the Immigration bill due largely in part
by the banding together of individual citizen groups (with no outside support
from powerful PACs!) and their onslaught against this legislation it would seem
as if the American public has voiced their overall thoughts on the immigration
issue quite clearly.
Good ol John Q Public has made it clear we are not ready to fork over
citizenship rights, amnesty for previous transgressions, or to pay anymore of
the bills for the illegal contention within our borders and quite simply want
them OUT !
The government however seems to be operating on another level and with a totally
different plan of action in all this. How else could it easily be explained that
within 2 weeks of the defeat of the 1st cloture vote in the Senate the Amnesty
bill was again shoved off on the Senate for another vote, all the while without
allowing for the typical debate process such an obviously impactful piece of
legislation should be allowed. The dissenting Senate members were leaned on by
Bush/Kennedy and others with promises of backing for their own agenda items in
the future as the carrot commonly dangled for their support on this bill.
Honestly it seems to me that we (once more) are being sold down the river by the
very members of our government we placed into office, surprise, surprise ! How
else could it be explained that though a block of citizens spoke out load and
clearly enough to have led to the defeat of the proposed Amnesty bill in the
Senate, they (the government) now choose to continue to snub their noses at
these same people by not enforcing the existing immigration/deportation
laws?
Quite simply, the only rational reasoning I can see for such inaction in this
area is that the intended NAU Bush wants to see implemented would make any $$
and time spent enforcing our current laws a moot point and wasted efforts, so
they choose to simply pretty much do NOTHING at all about systematically ridding
the country of the millions of interlopers now within our borders.
The means of deporting the illegal alien contention is well within our resources
and hardly an insurmountable task if the laws were simply enforced. My
contention is that if the current laws were to be strictly adhered to many of
the illegals would leave on their own, while many of course would not do so, and
would need to be apprehended and deported, which can be done systematically and
simply if the current laws were simply enforced.
Americans have been sleeping for a long time and it's high time we as a country
awaken to make our opinions known to our legislators before America as we know
it is no more.
quasi Report This Comment Date: July 10, 2007 08:51PM
I recieved this email from my aunt yesterday morning. I couldn't find anything
about it on truthorfiction.com and snopes.com gives it an undetermined status,
but it is thought provoking, and just plain provoking.
> THIS HAS TO BE PASSED ALONG TO AS MANY AS POSSIBLE
>OR WE WILL ALL GO DOWN THE DRAIN BECAUSE A FEW DON'T CARE. WE >NEED TO
>SEND IT TO OUR SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES AND EVERY SINGLE >POLITICAL
CANDIDATE!
>
>
> >
> >
> > This English teacher has phrased it the best I've seen yet
> >
> > Tomatoes and Cheap Labor
> >
> > CHEAP TOMATOES?
> >
> > This should make everyone think, be you Democrat, Republican
>or Independent.
> >
> > From a California school teacher - - -
> >
> > "As you listen to the news about the student protests over
>illegal immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of:
> >
> > I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department
>at a large southern California high school which is designated a Title 1
>school, meaning that its students average lower socioeconomic and income
>levels.
> >
> > Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High,
>Bell Gardens, Huntington Park, etc., where these students are
>protesting, are also Title 1 schools.
> >
> > Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch
>program. When I say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of milk and
>roll -- but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that
>would make a Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with
>trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten. (OUR R TAX
>DOLLARS AT WORK)
> >
> > I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or
>at least moderately overweight. About 75% or more DO have cell phones.
>The school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant
>girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the
>inconvenience of having to arrange for baby-sitters or having family
>watch their kids. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
> >
> > I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk
>losing funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need
>for anything; my budget was already substantial. I ended up buying new
>computers for the computer learning center, half of which, one month
>later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who
>obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in America
>. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
> >
> > I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute
>teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here
>in the country less then 3 months who raised so much hell with the
>female teachers, calling them "Putas"......whores, and throwing
things
>that the teachers were in tears.
> >
> > Free medical, free education, free food, day care etc., etc,
>etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country
>but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements?
> >
> > To those who want to point out how much these illegal
>immigrants contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener
>and housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time
>in the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.
> >
> > Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical
>costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools,
>overcrowding, new diseases etc., etc, etc. For me, I'll pay more for
tomatoes.
> >
> > We need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a
> disaster because we won't have the guts to enforce it.
> >
> > Does anyone in their right mind really think they will
> voluntarily leave and return?
> >
> > There are many hardworking Hispanic/American citizens that
>contribute to our country and many that I consider my true friends. We
>should encourage and accept those Hispanics who have done it the right
>and legal way.
> >
> > It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A
>third-world culture that does not value education, that accepts children
>getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that refuses to
>assimilate, and an American culture that has become so weak and worried
>about "politically correctness" that we don't have the will to do
>anything about it.
> >
> > If this makes your blood boil, as it did mine, forward this to
> everyone you know.
> >
> > CHEAP LABOR?
> > Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?
> >
> > Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage.
> >
> > Consumers don't want expensive produce.
> >
> > Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs.
> >
> > But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase "cheap labor"
>is a myth, a farce, and a lie. there is no such thing as "cheap
labor."
> >
> > Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five
>children. He takes a job for $5.00 or $6.00/hour. At that wage, with
>six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if
>he files an Income Tax Return, he gets an "earned income credit"
of up
>to $3,200 free.
> >
> > He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.
> >
> > He qualifies for food stamps.
> >
> > He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.
> >
> > His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.
> >
> > He requires bilingual teachers and books.
> >
> > He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.
> >
> > If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify
>for SSI. Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare. All of
>this is at (OUR) taxpayer's expense.
> >
> > He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or
>homeowners insurance.
> >
> > Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed
material.
> >
> > He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to
>$30.00/hour in benefits.
> >
> > Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left
>after paying their bills and his.
> >
> > The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti
>and trash clean-up.
> >
> > Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT!
> > Wake up people. THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE
>ADDRESSING TO THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR EITHER PARTY. >AND WHEN
>THEY LIE TO US AND DON'T DO AS THEY SAY, WE SHOULD REPLACE THEM >AT
ONCE!'"
> >
> >
> > THIS HAS GOT TO BE PASSED ALONG TO AS MANY AS POSSIBLE >OR WE
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: July 11, 2007 01:51AM
Madnez, thanks again for another fine example of your cunning and rapier-like
wit and ..... excellent use of the English language .....
Out of absolute curiosity, did you
even make it past about the 4th grade in school ? If so then I must say you are
certainly a fine example of how little one needs to be considered educated these
days .... sheesh
So, by your somewhat distended, (<-Ooops, sorry, let me dumb this down for ya
-> TWISTED) logic it seems you probably feel as if the fact that you were
sitting in the company of an admittedly criminal employer of criminal laborers
while he told you that he tried to get skilled laborers to work for less than
the going rate and they wouldn't and yet you, in your absolute lack of knowledge
about anything related to what a skilled construction worker can expect to make
an hour felt as if his approach was reasonable, didn't you ?
See madnez, it's people just like you who are so inept (<- uh oh, sorry again
dimwit, that means : unable to, incapable of) at understanding the total
ramifications of actions like what you descibed in your rant that make people
who actually HAVE brains get really pissed off from your simplistic analysis of
such situations.
Let me explain a bit here for ya .... and I'll try not to use too many big words
so maybe even YOU can get a grip on it all :
The people you were watching work were doing so for less than the going rate for
skilled workers, yet to them, the fact they can get $10-12 is fine and because
their boss can get away with hiring people for less than the going rate, he too
thinks that's all good.
Now then, the reality of what you were watching were workers without even a
likely legal right to be in this country in the 1st place performing work below
the wage skilled carpenters and roofers expect to be paid for their labor. This
has an overall effect on what the carpentry and roofing trades person can expect
for their work because of people just like their boss, who since they can hire
labor for such cheap wages do so and then are able to underbid legal
citizens/contractors, which eventually drives down the legal workers wages in an
effort to stay competetive and keep food on their families tables by continuing
to be gainfully employed. BTW, his tactics at getting your sympathy sure worked
well for him from the sounds of it .... whatta fuckin choom
However, this effort to remain competetive in their industry by the legal
working tradespeople means they now have to work for less and hence their
families will also fare worse for it all, and all so assholes like the weaselish
boss you seemed to admire can work the illegals cheaper while himself keeping a
bigger share of the overall profits.
I dunno WTF kind of logic you're using, but it damned sure isn't anything I
would either call reasonable or good for the country you live in dude and if you
think that's really OK, it only reinforces my view of just what a dumbass you
truly are.
You'd best keep a close eye out for your own business interests madnez,
illitrate Indians aren't the only one capable of workin on computers and I
assure you, there's plenty of others around that will offer to do your work too
for less than you charge. If you think such BS is good then don't come whining
later on when this labor pool infiltrates YOUR trade and you find yourself
working harder and gettin paid less for it so YOU can be competetive and keep
food on your own familys table.
If you think this issue won't touch you, your life and that of your family ...
you're only foolin yourself
