Madnez, thanks again for another fine example of your cunning and rapier-like wit and ..... excellent use of the English language ..... Out of absolute curiosity, did you even make it past about the 4th grade in school ? If so then I must say you are certainly a fine example of how little one needs to be considered educated these days .... sheesh

So, by your somewhat distended, (<-Ooops, sorry, let me dumb this down for ya -> TWISTED) logic it seems you probably feel as if the fact that you were sitting in the company of an admittedly criminal employer of criminal laborers while he told you that he tried to get skilled laborers to work for less than the going rate and they wouldn't and yet you, in your absolute lack of knowledge about anything related to what a skilled construction worker can expect to make an hour felt as if his approach was reasonable, didn't you ?

See madnez, it's people just like you who are so inept (<- uh oh, sorry again dimwit, that means : unable to, incapable of) at understanding the total ramifications of actions like what you descibed in your rant that make people who actually HAVE brains get really pissed off from your simplistic analysis of such situations.

Let me explain a bit here for ya .... and I'll try not to use too many big words so maybe even YOU can get a grip on it all :

The people you were watching work were doing so for less than the going rate for skilled workers, yet to them, the fact they can get $10-12 is fine and because their boss can get away with hiring people for less than the going rate, he too thinks that's all good.

Now then, the reality of what you were watching were workers without even a likely legal right to be in this country in the 1st place performing work below the wage skilled carpenters and roofers expect to be paid for their labor. This has an overall effect on what the carpentry and roofing trades person can expect for their work because of people just like their boss, who since they can hire labor for such cheap wages do so and then are able to underbid legal citizens/contractors, which eventually drives down the legal workers wages in an effort to stay competetive and keep food on their families tables by continuing to be gainfully employed. BTW, his tactics at getting your sympathy sure worked well for him from the sounds of it .... whatta fuckin choom

However, this effort to remain competetive in their industry by the legal working tradespeople means they now have to work for less and hence their families will also fare worse for it all, and all so assholes like the weaselish boss you seemed to admire can work the illegals cheaper while himself keeping a bigger share of the overall profits.

I dunno WTF kind of logic you're using, but it damned sure isn't anything I would either call reasonable or good for the country you live in dude and if you think that's really OK, it only reinforces my view of just what a dumbass you truly are.

You'd best keep a close eye out for your own business interests madnez, illitrate Indians aren't the only one capable of workin on computers and I assure you, there's plenty of others around that will offer to do your work too for less than you charge. If you think such BS is good then don't come whining later on when this labor pool infiltrates YOUR trade and you find yourself working harder and gettin paid less for it so YOU can be competetive and keep food on your own familys table.

If you think this issue won't touch you, your life and that of your family ... you're only foolin yourself