Posted by: Anonymous [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: January 12, 2005 06:23PM
The child pornography needs to be removed and this persons address needs to be blocked.
Posted by: HCEEBEE [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: January 12, 2005 06:35PM
REMOVE THAT SHIT
Posted by: Coldspray [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: January 13, 2005 01:53AM
SICK FUCKERS NEED TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: dub_kingdom [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: January 13, 2005 03:01PM
How is it I have never seen any kiddie porn here? I don´t want to either, but it´s such a hot topic, continuous too, that it seems odd to me I never see it. Is it becuase I´m on european time and the uploaders / administrators add and remove before I get out of bed in the morning? It´s just fucking strange that everyone bangs on about it all the time and I have been using this site for months and never seen any. NOT complaining, by the way.
Posted by: TConX [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: January 14, 2005 02:55AM
Say no to kiddy porn.

Say yes to Lolikon!
Posted by: DarkKlown [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: January 14, 2005 03:37AM
TConX: kiddy porn is kiddy porn even if it's drawn, upload another and you'll be banned from the site.
Posted by: TConX [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: January 14, 2005 04:17AM
The differenrce between Kiddy Porn and Lolikon Hentai is legality.

But respect your rule, even if it is somewhat misguided.
Posted by: vampyre32 [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: January 16, 2005 02:19PM
simple... people who upload that sh*t need to be burned
Posted by: Tiw [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: January 16, 2005 04:35PM
I don't see much difference between real child porn and simulated child porn, both are VERY wrong. Even though the picture may be drawn or modelled on a computer that doesn't mean there was no real child there for inspiration does there? Even if there was no child involved in the creation of the image or animation it will be looked at by sicko's who will then go out and find a real child to abuse. This means it is just as evil as they real thing.
Posted by: TConX [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: January 16, 2005 09:29PM
Those people who have a "lolicon" (Lolita Complex) are believed by some to have a tendency to act violently against children or to prefer sex with children to adults. Despite Japan producing (and consuming) most lolicon media, there is no evidence that it causes violent crimes against children and teens. Their prevalence (as is the case for violent crimes in general) is well below that of most other countries.

Lolicon/Lolikon is legit, and what you believe (child models used in the process) is simply not true.
Posted by: gruff [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: January 16, 2005 09:44PM
fake snuff is legit too, doesn't mean it's good.
Posted by: Tiw [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: January 17, 2005 07:39AM
Why would you want to look at naked children anyway? ANyone who desires this is just sick, it doesn't matter if it is when abusing a real child, looking at a pic or video or one of your so called Lolikon pics.

Children are there to be protected and cared for, not abused in any way, I know that if I found anyone did it to my nephew might even live to regret it.
Posted by: TConX [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: January 17, 2005 08:13AM
Now why would I want to do your ugly nephew?

And why can't you get it in your head? Lolikon *IS* *NOT* *THE* *REAL* *THING*!
Posted by: pulse [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: January 17, 2005 09:31AM
It's still in very poor taste, and not what we want on the site.
Posted by: farmer_joe [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: January 24, 2005 04:05PM
If you fancy children, (disregarding people who are only a bit older say a 14yrs old and a 17 year old - illegal & proberbly taking advantage but not fucked up) you HAVE very strong psychological problems. I dont think it of use to say "lets burn them all" or anything like that. It has to be dealt with as an adult problem possibly a mental illness. Remember its not a new thing. These people proberbly never grew up properly, missed out on that section of there life. My boss was sacked recently for seven counts of child porn things. I will never talk to him again, he truely sickens me. Thinking about his personality every thing clicks into place. A geek who was bullied at school, has no friends. He became fat, and i know for a fact he is a virgin at 26. He has grown up with no sexual maturity. The only people he can relate to sexually are where his sexuality has been left: at the stage it was when he was very young. Its a very sad thing, for both the abusers and the abused. This is often why things like this happen in cycles. Of course this is one example and there are many different stories. Im not advocating anything here. My mother works in a special needs school, guess what the number one generator of disturbed children is? If your into this type of thing you should seek help, certainly if you have kids. Do you really want them to be as fucked up as you? as others say: break the chain! I think TConX you should be asking yourself a few questions
Posted by: GAK67 [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: January 24, 2005 07:51PM
It is good to see such a responsible stance taken by the site admins here and I have to agree with Tiw. Whether the picture is real or fake, legal or not, you have to be concerned about people who like looking at it.

TConX, is the reason Japan has a low prevelence of violent crime against children their strong sense of social shame if they get caught? Think how much lower it might be if the fuel for their sick fantasies were removed!

farmer_joe, I agree with what you say, but when you say it has to be dealt with as an adult problem, I feel it should be dealt with as a child safety issue. While it might be an illness that needs treatment we need to remember here that the true victim is not the abuser, but the child. Your main point though I must reiterate. "If you're into this type of thing you should seek help, certainly if you have kids. Do you really want them to be as fucked up as you? as others say: break the chain!"
Posted by: Tiw [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: January 25, 2005 04:46PM
I think that both the abuser and the abused should be treated equally. The abused child should be helped to overcome the terrible thing that has happened to him/her and the abuser must be treated so that he/she doesn't do it again (in a humane way, not just giving the person a good kicking, however satisfying it might be at the time).
Posted by: GAK67 [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: January 25, 2005 10:49PM
I really have to disagree with you on this issue Tiw. While the abuser may be a victim as well, need treatment and have some reason for their actions, they are an adult and are capable of making a choice in this regard. The child is a totally innocent victim in this and needs to be the number one priority. I am not saying that the abusers should be strung up, castrated, put on an island or killed (although as you stated, it may be tempting and satisfying), but I do beleive that as well as treatment, they should also face consequences.
Posted by: TConX [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: January 26, 2005 12:41AM
1) Lolikon has no victims. Some guy draws it, othe guys bate to it. That's it. Oh, sure, someone decide to bang some girl, but that's the minority. It's like saying all Rammstein fans are going to shoot up their schools just because two already did.

2) You're right GAK, Japan does have a better sense of social shame then Amerikkka. I guess some nations are more able to trust their own people better then other nations...
Posted by: GAK67 [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: January 26, 2005 01:42AM
TConX - why did you add 'from Amerikkka'? and I am not talking about the spelling. Japan has a better sense of social shame than Canada too (I have picked up from other posts that you are from Canada). You could include Australia, New Zealand, all of Europe and Africa in there too.
Posted by: Tiw [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: January 26, 2005 05:01PM
I didn't mean to suggest abusers should walk away from their crimes scott free because that would be almost as bad as the crime itself. I merely meant to suggest that they should be treated as a victim as well, they do say that some abused children become abusers themselves so it is important to stop the chain at more than one end.
Posted by: TConX [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: January 27, 2005 02:34AM
[www.plus613.com]

If my lolikon is deleted from the site, so should this!
Posted by: DarkKlown [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: January 27, 2005 05:11AM
TConX: it's been removed.
Posted by: farmer_joe [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: January 27, 2005 03:34PM
"I feel it should be dealt with as a child safety issue" yep that too. Obviously the childs needs come first. But after that get to the root of the problem.
Posted by: DevilDog [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: January 29, 2005 10:59AM
TConX I have had my suspicions but now you have proven it. You are not very bright!
Posted by: Elitematrios [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: February 11, 2005 09:11AM
I must agree with TConX, kiddy porn and lolikon are totally different things. I myself am a big fan of lolikon but I think kiddy porn is wrong. I will agree, people who look at kiddy porn need mental help, they are the ones who have the statistical probability of becoming sexual offenders. Lolikon on the other hand one, has no statistics proving it ever causes that type of problem. Two, due to the nature of anime, if you dont agree with lolikon, fine, take a lolikon pic increase bust size and head size, you have a chibi woman. Same in reverse, remove the bust and shrink height you have lolikon. The like of lolikon is proven as a fact of the combined "cuteness" of a child, which may be what leads up to child molestation, but it is also the love of anime with it. It is also proven that most people who are into anime that deep have very little turn on from the real thing, and due to the graphic nature of anime only the most beautiful if then, while most of those who perform the molestation are not turned on by drawn pictures due to the fact it doesnt have the feeling behind it of doing something wrong. And on a lighter note:seriously how many people do you know that deep in anime that has a effort to put forth to molesting some one...our friend is the couch and computer chair. I reiterate though while kiddy porn is bad and wrong, watch anime a while, study the nature of the art and you may possibly see the arousel behind the hentai lolitas childish yet innocent and tempting face. If not please try to understand at least the sheer level of difference between the two.
Posted by: Elitematrios [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: February 13, 2005 06:29AM
In addition to my last statement I will say though as of just recently. There is a step down on lolikon called kinderkon and even from an anime standpoint I have to think that its wrong. Lolikon ranges from 10-16. Kinderkon is from infancy-to about 4 which after seeing it disturbs even me which initself is a feat.
Posted by: Mint [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: February 13, 2005 06:43AM
"I myself am a big fan of lolikon"

anything else you have to say was muted with that
Posted by: Anonymous [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: February 20, 2005 12:03AM
thers nothing better than a kids pussy i live it i also fuc my 2 year old with my finger its greta
Posted by: Blah [x] - (205.188.116.---)
Date: February 21, 2005 02:30AM
Something that has always kind of confused me:

Average person hears on news that child is killed by adult/parent: "Oh my god that's awful! I cant imagine what would drive someone to such desperation..."

Average person hears on news that a child is molested by adult/parent: "NAIL HIS BALLS TO A WOODEN PLANK AND LET LOOSE RABID BEAVERS UPON HIM! KILL THE BEAST! KILL THE BEAST!"

I understand the negative reaction to both circumstances, but why are sex crimes reacted to with a much more explosive anger then violent crimes?
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