Anonymous Report This Comment Date: August 02, 2007 04:19PM
Go ahead and spend more money overseas, hell we can't even cross a bridge
anymore!
We probably spend more to fix the streets in Iraq, just to get them bombed
again.
I think it's time to fix our own damn streets and bridges.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: August 02, 2007 05:00PM
Hey don't shit in your panties
NOBODY HAS A CRYSTAL BALL!
you fucking moron, and stop blaming everything on Bush or your government,
remember you are the government. learn something about building structures
first then pee in your panties if you want.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: August 02, 2007 06:38PM
--- NOBODY HAS A CRYSTAL BALL!
REALLY? The government has no experts on the payroll, no structural engineers or
inspectors, no records on how old a structure is or how long that type of
structure typically lasts before failures? No inspections are ever done? Where
DOES all that tax money go? Oh yeah! Hundreds of billions go to IRAQ!
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: August 02, 2007 06:51PM
Anonymous Wrote:
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> --- NOBODY HAS A CRYSTAL BALL!
> REALLY? The government has no experts on the
> payroll, no structural engineers or inspectors, no
> records on how old a structure is or how long that
> type of structure typically lasts before failures?
> No inspections are ever done? Where DOES all that
> tax money go? Oh yeah! Hundreds of billions go to
> IRAQ!
Your Tax Money goes to the pockets of millions on welfare, food stamps,
fraud etc. thanks to BIG government, and like I said learn something about
structural engineering before opening your big mouth, sounds like when you go to
pickup your welfare check..
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: August 02, 2007 07:07PM
I will open my big mouth ANY time I please, freedom of speech, ever hear of it?
The CURRENT government (not just Bush) is responsible for the construction,
inspection, maintenance, and closing of bridges. Nobody (except those on it)
likes the welfare state we have created, but what about 300 BILLION going to
IRAQ? How about we put one hundred billion into finding or MAKING jobs for the
welfare recipients? No more welfare unless you are crippled, if you need daycare
then it is taken out of your wages. Part of that hundred billion (and the new
jobs for the welfare types) can go to repairing and building new bridges. It is
2007, lets not pretend there ARE no solutions, that we CAN'T make safe bridges
and keep them that way.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: August 02, 2007 08:22PM
Chicago Tribune:
MINNEAPOLIS - The highway bridge that collapsed into the Mississippi River on
Wednesday was rated as "structurally deficient" two years ago and
possibly in need of replacement.
That rating was contained in the U.S. Department of Transportation's National
Bridge Inventory database.
Jeanne Aamodt, a spokeswoman for the Minnesota Department of Transportation,
said the department was aware of the 2005 assessment of the bridge. "We've
seen it, and we are very familiar with it," she said.
Aamodt said the department plans its bridge repairs using information from the
Bridge Inventory database.
Many other bridges nationwide carry the same designation that the I-35W bridge
received, Aamodt said.
Aamodt declined to say what the agency was going to do to address the
deficiencies found in 2005 and referred further questions to Dan Dorgan, state
bridge engineer and director of the bridge office. Dorgan wasn't available for
comment.
The deficiency rating is derived from a complex formula that evaluates many
factors and condenses them into an overall score. A score of 80 percent or less
indicates some rehabilitation may be needed; a 50 percent score or less
indicates replacement may be in order.
The I-35W bridge was rated at 50 percent. The rating data was provided to the
Star Tribune by the National Institute of Computer Assisted Reporting.
The inventory data also summarize the bridge's status as "structurally
deficient." Bridge components are ranked on a scale of 0 to 9, with 0 being
"failed" and 9 being "excellent."
In 2005, the bridge's superstructure -- meaning the physical conditions of all
structural members -- was rated at 4, records show. The bridge's deck was rated
5, and the substructure, comprised of the piers, abutments, footings and other
components, was rated 6.
In 2001, a research report on the bridge had found that it was unlikely to
experience any fatigue cracking in the trusses supporting its deck. The paper,
prepared by the University of Minnesota's Center for Information Studies,
evaluated both the main trusses and the floor truss of the bridge.
The report by the late Robert J. Dexter and others, concluded that the bridge's
deck "has not experienced fatigue cracking, but it has many poor fatigue
details on the main truss and floor truss system."
madmex2000 Report This Comment Date: August 02, 2007 08:39PM
Fuck Bush....... and your dumbass too.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: August 02, 2007 08:43PM
Speaking of Crystal ball, "What does a crystal ball have in common with
George Bush?"
They are Hazy most of the time, and the rest of the time they just don't work at
all!
This is all so confusing, I have a solution. First, family should come first,
that means take care of ours first and foremost. If there is anything left over,
well, let's throw a party! Better yet, give it back to the people it rightfully
belongs to.
US Get it! Got it! Good!
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: August 02, 2007 08:46PM
Anonymous Wrote:
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> Chicago Tribune:
> MINNEAPOLIS - The highway bridge that collapsed
> into the Mississippi River on Wednesday was rated
> as "structurally deficient" two years ago and
> possibly in need of replacement.
>
> That rating was contained in the U.S. Department
> of Transportation's National Bridge Inventory
> database.
>
> Jeanne Aamodt, a spokeswoman for the Minnesota
> Department of Transportation, said the department
> was aware of the 2005 assessment of the bridge.
> "We've seen it, and we are very familiar with it,"
> she said.
>
> Aamodt said the department plans its bridge
> repairs using information from the Bridge
> Inventory database.
>
> Many other bridges nationwide carry the same
> designation that the I-35W bridge received, Aamodt
> said.
>
> Aamodt declined to say what the agency was going
> to do to address the deficiencies found in 2005
> and referred further questions to Dan Dorgan,
> state bridge engineer and director of the bridge
> office. Dorgan wasn't available for comment.
>
> The deficiency rating is derived from a complex
> formula that evaluates many factors and condenses
> them into an overall score. A score of 80 percent
> or less indicates some rehabilitation may be
> needed; a 50 percent score or less indicates
> replacement may be in order.
>
> The I-35W bridge was rated at 50 percent. The
> rating data was provided to the Star Tribune by
> the National Institute of Computer Assisted
> Reporting.
>
> The inventory data also summarize the bridge's
> status as "structurally deficient." Bridge
> components are ranked on a scale of 0 to 9, with 0
> being "failed" and 9 being "excellent."
>
> In 2005, the bridge's superstructure -- meaning
> the physical conditions of all structural members
> -- was rated at 4, records show. The bridge's deck
> was rated 5, and the substructure, comprised of
> the piers, abutments, footings and other
> components, was rated 6.
>
> In 2001, a research report on the bridge had found
> that it was unlikely to experience any fatigue
> cracking in the trusses supporting its deck. The
> paper, prepared by the University of Minnesota's
> Center for Information Studies, evaluated both the
> main trusses and the floor truss of the bridge.
>
> The report by the late Robert J. Dexter and
> others, concluded that the bridge's deck "has not
> experienced fatigue cracking, but it has many poor
> fatigue details on the main truss and floor truss
> system."
And I bet that there isn't 1 or 2 more bridges like this one but HUNDREDS!!
and Bush didn't build them all.
Lexx Report This Comment Date: August 02, 2007 09:11PM
The battle of the Anonymous. Then mex has to chime in and show us all eloquent
and well spoken he is. ( that was scarcasm for people like mex that might not
get it).
I had to giggle at that. A whole back and forth with posts that show a least a
little thought then madmex chimes in like 5 year old that was listening in.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: August 02, 2007 09:16PM
-- And I bet that there isn't 1 or 2 more bridges like this -- one but
HUNDREDS!!
-- and Bush didn't build them all.
But he and his administration have had 7 YEARS to inspect and repair them. I am
not suggesting that all such bridges can be rebuilt completely in that time, but
temporary repairs for safety could have been done. Repairs that would last
several years until the bridges in question could be replaced or rebuilt. Most
politicians (Republican AND Democrat) just pass the buck to the next guy
elected, and don't give a shit.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: August 02, 2007 09:22PM
Just so everybody knows, Madmex is not "mex" he's Indian, probably
lives off the Reservation Casino check and don't have to work ever again in his
short fat life
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: August 02, 2007 09:46PM
>Jeanne Aamodt, a spokeswoman for the Minnesota
> Department of Transportation, said the department
> was aware of the 2005 assessment of the bridge.
> "We've seen it, and we are very familiar with it,"
> she said.
>
> Aamodt said the department plans its bridge
> repairs using information from the Bridge
> Inventory database.
Now if you can read, tell me who was going to repair the bridge ?
FYI the Minnesota Department of Transportation is State controlled and not under
the Federal Government and if you can do a little more checking I bet that the
bridge wasn't built by the Federal Government.
Dave R. Report This Comment Date: August 02, 2007 10:14PM
Bridge failures are nothing new. They have been occurring since the very first
bridge was ever constructed, which was eons before George W. Bush became POTUS.
If there is any blame to be placed, it is squarely with the Minnesota Department
of Transportation, as it is their responsibility to have the bridges in that
state fully inspected by competent and experienced structural engineers every
two years (yearly would be even better), and not by some marginally competent
affirmative action beneficiary who was hired for reasons other than his/her/its
qualifications. I have seen this sort of thing happen first hand, and on more
than one occasion, right here in Georgia.
According to reports I am hearing, that bridge was showing signs ten years ago
that there were problems.
Of course, this won't stop the democrats from trying to gain some type of
political advantage from this tragedy, as these people have no moral scrupals
whatsoever.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: August 02, 2007 10:33PM
That guy up there is nothing but a Bush liar!
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: August 03, 2007 12:11AM
our road system capacities have been fucked for 20 years and only getting
worse. you should've seen Dallas 15 years ago! jeeeeesus! I-45 was 2 lanes n/s
all the way through town. now it's 5 lane and it's still fucked.
as for the bridge situation..it's the same as the road situation, in need of
major repair. someone seems to have underestimated grossly the explosion of
development.
the tollway authority is a building monster in DFW throwing down a 30 mile
stretch 5 lanes in 6 years i think it was.
i don't see the govt. being able to ever keep up maintenance on the existing
roads and complete new jobs as well.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: August 03, 2007 12:23AM
I don't buy that the federal government is powerless in minnesota. Nobody can
stop the US Army corp of engineers from inspecting bridges and publishing
reports on bridges that are in need of repair and not getting it. All the feds
have to do is let the press know how shitty a job is being done and they will
run with it.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: August 03, 2007 01:16AM
run it into the ground, yea! please don't let the media be responsible for
anything but the sports reports.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: August 03, 2007 01:42AM
I am so sorry that people got scared, injured, killed and missing. Bridges
collapsing are neither nothing new nor anything to blame everyone else for.
People who don't like this or hate that political person or piece of crap will
blame anything they can on them.
Wake up call, motherfuckers - be responsible for
your life -
all
of it. That's the only choice you have.
90130_ Report This Comment Date: August 03, 2007 03:47AM
How about this marvel of democratic genius?
[
en.wikipedia.org])
A mega-fuckup from day one, funding bill was vetoed by President Reagan but
overidden by congress.
JohnMcClane Report This Comment Date: August 03, 2007 04:07AM
90130_ Wrote:
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> How about this marvel of democratic genius?
>
>
> [
en.wikipedia.org]
> achusetts)
>
>
> A mega-fuckup from day one, funding bill was
> vetoed by President Reagan but overidden by
> congress.
Oh please, the ones who fucked that up were the assholes who built the damn
thing. Politics didn't come into play on that one, just shitty ass engineers. We
had something similar (an engineering screw up) in my own hometown. A two lane
exit/entrance ramp for our local interstate. Well, we only use one of the lanes
because the bridge was built wrong and can't support two lanes of traffic.
Idiots.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: August 03, 2007 05:26AM
Here's the reality of it all : roads and bridges are built by contractors
within each state (with or without federal funds) and once they are constructed
are the sole responsibilty of the individual state they are constructed within
to maintain. The federal government doesn't contruct the highways, nor maintain
them, they only either contribute to their funding or not, plain and simple
!
The above is just another shit slinging fest instigated by some dumb shit lookin
to blame the fed for poor maintenance by the state even after a fed inspection
revealed risk of potential failure of the structure plenty long enough ago to
have avoided the failure of the structure had their findings been utilized.
Some people manage to get both feet and even other body parts in their mouth
sometimes
Just a clue, but really, fed/bush
bashers ought to get their facts straight before engaging their keeboards and
making phenomenal asses outta themselves.
shaDEz Report This Comment Date: August 03, 2007 08:58AM
so the bridge builders are private, right... sorry i'm not here to try to
exploit this tragic event into something political like most of these dumb
shits
and to all of the survivors and victims, my deepest condolences
jgoins Report This Comment Date: August 03, 2007 11:04AM
Maintenance for roads and bridges is and always has been responsibility of the
state governments. Maintenance is done on the states schedule with possibly
some funds from federal government and performed by private contractors. Bush
is not to blame for every bad thing that happens in the world.
90130_ Report This Comment Date: August 03, 2007 11:44AM
Not three days since the bridge collapse, and the nut-job lefties are blaming
Bush for it!
Get a fuckin' life!
jgoins Report This Comment Date: August 04, 2007 11:30AM
90130_ Wrote:
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> Not three days since the bridge collapse, and the
> nut-job lefties are blaming Bush for it!
>
>
>
> Get a fuckin' life!
This is what they do. They even blame him for hurricanes and tornados.
quasi Report This Comment Date: August 04, 2007 01:05PM
I've got hemroids because the federal government has failed to impliment and
enforce strict guidelines for the constrution of office chairs! Damn you George
Bush, you are totally responsible for the pain in my ass! Oh the agony when shit
happens! If Hillary gets elected, hopefully she'll come lick my wounds.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: August 04, 2007 03:49PM
Hahahaha ! Good one buddy
I volunteer to let her lick mine too should she somehow manage to get elected
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: August 05, 2007 12:14AM
the president scorned.
jgoins Report This Comment Date: August 05, 2007 11:05AM
Come on people lighten up. Bush will be leaving office in January '09 so you
don't have much longer then you can deal with whatever lame choice you put into
office.
quasi Report This Comment Date: August 05, 2007 12:47PM
I was just being sarcastic, jgoins. I'm not a Bush lover or hater, I like some
of his policies and dislike others. It's been the same for me with every
President. I'm just poking fun at those who want to blame the government or the
current administration (whoever is current) for everything while not realizing
that if the government was in complete control of everything it would be in
complete control of us too. SHIT HAPPENS PEOPLE! Sometimes with horrible
results, but there is not always somebody to blame, it just happens. And then
there are the people who think the administration is so in control &
responsible for everything that instead of putting blame where blame is due they
blame the administration for something evil - and for you dumbasses that can't
read between the lines, I'm talking about 9/11. I know people who hated and
blamed Clinton for everything just as this new batch of folks wants to believe
the same about Bush, and it's just fucking ridiculous that so much time &
energy are wasted on this tripe. Get a life and try to do something constructive
instead of spreading your destructive political bullshit & rumors about who
did what & when. That shit pisses me off, and though I don't wish him any
harm, I'm glad aDCbeast has stopped spouting his bullshit.
jgoins Report This Comment Date: August 06, 2007 11:42AM
Quasi, my post wasn't for you it was for all the dimwits who want to blame
everything on Bush. I did see your post for what it was and like you I can't
stand all those people who want to blame everything on any one person regardless
of who it is. They think Bush has complete power over everything and everyone
and do not understand what limited power the president really has.
