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BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: May 19, 2013 12:54PM

It's ok because after the trees are all gone we will have to grow hemp to replenish oxygen in the air, which it does a more efficient job of anyway. We might need to move to using bamboo for structures more. Things will have to change no matter what concerning our use of resources. Either that or we will eventually die off, the planet will continue to evolve, life will go on in some manner, just like it always has, with or without us.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: May 19, 2013 01:05PM

Pursuing disobedience is FUN .... even more so with a good buzz Dancing
Green Banana!

BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: May 19, 2013 01:18PM

I suppose it depends on what exactly you are trying to disobey. For example, the laws of physics can be pretty brutal when it comes to attempting to disobey them. Disobey social mores and values, yeah, go for it buddy. Just try not to get arrested.

Did you get tornadoes near where you are?
pulse Report This Comment
Date: May 19, 2013 10:24PM

Either that or we will eventually die off, the planet will continue to evolve, life will go on in some manner, just like it always has, with or without us.

In 2004 I did a tour of Chernobyl, and the old nuclear power station that melted down in 1988. The one thing that I found really refreshing was the fact that life really does go on. It doesn't matter how badly we fuck up the world, the forests there were lush and green, the trees were growing out of footpaths and the floors of apartment buildings, nature was reclaiming the space and there was wildlife everywhere.

Sure, the squirrels could get nuts off the trees with their laserbeam eyes, but still it was great to see the way the earth was taking charge and slowly but surely removing any trace of us from the landscape. It'll take time, but it'll all heal itself after we're gone
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: May 20, 2013 01:16AM

Meh, laws steeped in science are one thing, while those made by man are meant to be broken. Morality is the best guide overall, so if an act is moral, fuck a law that says I can't.

The way I see it, obeying or disobeying laws all has costs. Sometimes it's a personal freedom, others it comes outta your ass pocket spinning
smiley sticking its tongue out

Yeah, the tornado (of the 10 that hit that night) that killed those 8 people hit about 1/2 a mile from the Casa de Steele. My B-in-law was sittin on the front porch of their place and called to tell me there was one on the ground. Got in my truck and went down below the line of trees that was blockin my view and no shit, there it was 'bout a 1/2 mile down the road !

It was movin pretty slowly, started comin right at me at one point, then popped back into the clouds. Sumbitch knew it couldn phase the Man of Steele (matrix)

The weather here can be pretty trippy this time of year drinking

BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: May 20, 2013 10:39AM

I'm glad you didn't get hit. 1/2 a mile is pretty damn close when you think about how unpredictable and fast those things can be.
ImNotLikeEverybodyElse Report This Comment
Date: May 20, 2013 11:16PM

"it's not a war on drugs it's a war on personal freedom okay just try to keep that in mind at all times"
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: May 21, 2013 03:01AM

That is the purpose of government. You can't have people going around doing whatever they want to.
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: May 21, 2013 06:48AM

You are right Blah we can't have people doing whatever they want but our laws should be based on things people do that have adverse effect on other people. If doing something does not harm other people then it should not be illegal. IE if my wearing a seatbelt does not harm another then I shouldn't be forced to wear one.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: May 21, 2013 06:50AM

Drug use and even abuse is a victimless crime, so how is that any business of the government in a "free" society?

The governments own actions in pursuing these victimless criminals actually create a multitude of offspring crimes and cost the lives of many people, both innocent and not-so-innocent. A plethora of kidnappings, rapes, murders and thefts all are created directly and indirectly by the criminalization of drug use.

The very act of criminalizing adult drug use and possession is an attack upon personal freedoms and is more intended as a way to surveil and control the public much more than it is to protect them (*facepalm*)

BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: May 21, 2013 03:31PM

You're preaching to the choir.
We do not live in a free society. We never have.
quasi Report This Comment
Date: May 21, 2013 04:06PM

I agree that drug use is a victimless crime and should be decriminalized though it should be noted that many users and abusers turn to real criminal activities to finance their habits and their families often suffer greatly from their actions.
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: May 22, 2013 06:38AM

For the reason Quasi stated I feel pot should be legalized but other harder drugs should remain illegal. If pot were legal, sold and taxed like booze then there would be no more detriment to others than alcohol which will always remain legal. Legalized pot would also reduce the price of it and take it out of the drug dealers hands. It would be no worse on the street than bootleggers in a dry county.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: May 22, 2013 07:13AM

The fact that drugs are illegal creates a whole subculture of illegality of its own.

If druggies could walk into a store and get their drug of choice instead of buyin it on the street a huge number of crimes would be decreased and eliminated, and ... the govt could stop wasting the billions of dollars they currently waste annually on the unwinnable war on drugs.

I'd rather see our taxes spent on treating addiction, which would be a lot cheaper too, than on incarcerating ever growing numbers of "criminals" whose greatest harm is what they do to themselves (*horse*)

quasi Report This Comment
Date: May 22, 2013 10:47AM

Overall, law enforcement around here is pretty decent but I do get sick of them tooting their little horns every time they bust a grow house; what a waste of time, money, and manpower.

On a side note, I've been staying at my mother's for four years now helping her through her fight with alzheimers and until recently my own house sat empty with lights on timers and me going over a couple of times a week to look in on things. My house is on a corner and a couple of years ago I went to check on things one morning and the house directly behind mine had cop cars lining both streets around it. Turns out it was a grow house. If I'd only known - I could've gotten some stress relief right next door.
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: May 23, 2013 07:12AM

Unfortunately intil something is done legally we will have to tolerate it and just make sure we are careful ourselves.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: May 23, 2013 12:21PM

Drug abusers make things difficult for other people in other ways too. Those who abuse pharmaceuticals have made it become more difficult for those who have legitimate use and need of those drugs to get them when they need them. Because the drugs get abused everyone is automatically treated with suspicion and is forced to endure delays and hassles getting the meds they need.
quasi Report This Comment
Date: May 23, 2013 05:33PM

Your citing an issue which is a direct result of the war on drugs that the drug users aren't directly responsible for - it's the authorities attempts to control things, not the users causing this issue.

Also, just saw this re pot. []
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: May 23, 2013 06:45PM

But the government uses ABUSE statistics to determine how they classify drugs that are prescribed. So the ABUSERS do have a direct effect on what schedule a drug is classed at and how USERS have to go about getting them.
quasi Report This Comment
Date: May 23, 2013 10:35PM

The abuser steals an ipad to sell for money to buy drugs = direct effect...the abuser takes something

The government restricts drugs from people who have a legitimate need because others are abusing them = indirect effect...the government takes something because of the actions of others
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: May 24, 2013 06:34AM

Another indirect effect is when someone with chronic pain condition gets classified as a drug seeker by doctors and hospitals because it is easier than finding the cause of the condition. That has happened to my daughter because she has fibromyalgia and doctors don't want to take the time to find out for sure.
quasi Report This Comment
Date: May 24, 2013 08:21AM

My mom will be 88 next month and until last year she had a prescription for vicodin to help with the chronic pain she suffers after forty years as a nurse on her feet in hospitals coupled with her advanced age. The DEA pressured her doctor, a legitimate MD, to cut back on the number of vicodin prescriptions she was writing so she asked to stop giving my mom the medication. By that point the vicodin was ineffective anyway, if it ever did any good - if my mom's like me the stuff is useless for pain-, so we switched her to straight tylenol. She has done alright with this, but I have no doubt that there are multitudes of people who should get this type of drug but can't, not because of the abusers themselves but because of yet another backfired government program that hurts innocent people in the name of "justice". Makes me sick.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: May 24, 2013 03:09PM

She is better off not having to take an opiate drug anyway in my opinion. Acetaminophen works very well and a good choice if you're a teetotaler.

Certainly the DEA is blamed with just reason but doctor-shopping pill-junkies brought it on. They have contributed greatly to having fucked it up for everyone else, even if "indirectly". The reality of it is direct enough.
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: May 25, 2013 06:31AM

All of this is true but unfortunately there is nothing whatsoever we can do about it. As long as the government thinks it is all powerful and God-like shit like this will continue to happen.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: June 08, 2013 01:19PM

Perhaps not always a victimless crime...