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Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: September 25, 2007 03:07PM

Iraq Veterans..........

Why we're against the war

Q: Why are veterans, active duty, and National Guard men and women opposed to the war in Iraq?

A: Here are 10 reasons we oppose this war:

1. The Iraq war is based on lies and deception.
The Bush Administration planned for an attack against Iraq before September 11th, 2001. They used the false pretense of an imminent nuclear, chemical and biological weapons threat to deceive Congress into rationalizing this unnecessary conflict. They hide our casualties of war by banning the filming of our fallen's caskets when they arrive home, and when they refuse to allow the media into Walter Reed Hospital and other Veterans Administration facilities which are overflowing with maimed and traumatized veterans.
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2. The Iraq war violates international law.
The United States assaulted and occupied Iraq without the consent of the UN Security Council. In doing so they violated the same body of laws they accused Iraq of breaching.
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3. Corporate profiteering is driving the war in Iraq.
From privately contracted soldiers and linguists to no-bid reconstruction contracts and multinational oil negotiations, those who benefit the most in this conflict are those who suffer the least. The United States has chosen a path that directly contradicts President Eisenhower's farewell warning regarding the military industrial complex. As long as those in power are not held accountable, they will continue...
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4. Overwhelming civilian casualties are a daily occurrence in Iraq.
Despite attempts in training and technological sophistication, large-scale civilian death is both a direct and indirect result of United States aggression in Iraq. Even the most conservative estimates of Iraqi civilian deaths number over 100,000. Currently over 100 civilians die every day in Baghdad alone.For further reading:
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5. Soldiers have the right to refuse illegal war.
All in service to this country swear an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. However, they are prosecuted if they object to serve in a war they see as illegal under our Constitution. As such, our brothers and sisters are paying the price for political incompetence, forced to fight in a war instead of having been sufficiently trained to carry out the task of nation-building.
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6. Service members are facing serious health consequences due to our Government's negligence.
Many of our troops have already been deployed to Iraq for two, three, and even four tours of duty averaging eleven months each. Combat stress, exhaustion, and bearing witness to the horrors of war contribute to Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), a serious set of symptoms that can lead to depression, illness, violent behavior, and even suicide. Additionally, depleted uranium, Lariam, insufficient body armor and infectious diseases are just a few of the health risks which accompany an immorally planned and incompetently executed war. Finally, upon a soldier's release, the Veterans Administration is far too under-funded to fully deal with the magnitude of veterans in need.
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7. The war in Iraq is tearing our families apart.
The use of stop-loss on active duty troops and the unnecessarily lengthy and repeat active tours by Guard and Reserve troops place enough strain on our military families, even without being forced to sacrifice their loved ones for this ongoing political experiment in the Middle East.
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8. The Iraq war is robbing us of funding sorely needed here at home.
$5.8 billion per month is spent on a war which could have aided the victims of Hurricane Katrina, gone to impoverished schools, the construction of hospitals and health care systems, tax cut initiatives, and a host of domestic programs that have all been gutted in the wake of the war in Iraq.
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9. The war dehumanizes Iraqis and denies them their right to self-determination.
Iraqis are subjected to humiliating and violent checkpoints, searches and home raids on a daily basis. The current Iraqi government is in place solely because of the U.S. military occupation. The Iraqi government doesn’t have the popular support of the Iraqi people, nor does it have power or authority. For many Iraqis the current government is seen as a puppet regime for the U.S. occupation. It is undemocratic and in violation of Iraq’s own right to self-governance.
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10. Our military is being exhausted by repeated deployments, involuntary extensions, and activations of the Reserve and National Guard.
The majority of troops in Iraq right now are there for at least their second tour. Deployments to Iraq are becoming longer and many of our service members are facing involuntary extensions and recalls to active duty. Longstanding policies to limit the duration and frequency of deployments for our part-time National Guard troops are now being overturned to allow for repeated, back-to-back tours in Iraq. These repeated, extended combat tours are taking a huge toll on our troops, their families, and their communities.
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Q: Why do Iraq Veterans Against the War call for the immediate withdrawal from Iraq?

A: There are several reasons why immediate withdrawal is the critical first step toward solving the problems in Iraq.

1. The reasons and rationale given for the invasion were fraudulent.
There were no Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq during the time of the invasion according to US officials and former chief UN weapons inspector Hans Blix. The idea that Al Qeada and the 9/11 terrorist attacks were connected to Saddam Hussein and the Baath party were proven false in the 9/11 Commission Report. Members of the Bush Administration have admitted that they “misspoke” in the run up to the war.

2. The presence of the US military is not preventing sectarian violence.
The US occupation of Iraq has proven to be unable to prevent sectarian violence and halt an escalation towards a civil war. Despite having an average of 140,000 troops in country since the occupation began, internal violence and attacks against civilians and Iraqi security forces have been on a steady incline.

3. The occupation is a primary motivation for the insurgency and global religious extremism.
The insurgency can be broken down into many individually named factions with various goals, beliefs, and techniques. However, our membership of veterans believe that the occupation of Iraq is the primary thing encouraging the insurgency and giving it legitimacy in the eyes of many Iraqis. Likewise, other people of the Islamic faith are encouraged to resist America ’s policies internationally based on how they perceive our military operations in the Middle East.

4. We can no longer afford to fight this war of choice.
The financial burden is destroying our domestic programs that could be used to protect us from natural disasters, provide medical programs, or help improve education. We are jeopardizing the US economy and putting strains on the budgets of important government agencies like the Veterans Affairs Department.

5. National security is compromised.
Funds that could be used to protect our ports and transportation are being stripped away while our National Guard units are on constant deployments instead of being used to protect and defend us here at home.

6. The world is becoming more dangerous.
International terrorist attacks have increased and it has become more dangerous for Americans to travel abroad. Approval for US policy has decreased and the dislike of Americans has increased.
7. Our national “moral authority” is being undermined.
The US has lost credibility to much of the world as the defender of liberty and freedom and our national identity is eroding. We can no longer deploy our armed forces for peace keeping measures with the good faith of the international community. We need to regain the respect and faith of the global community. This begins by withdrawing our troops from Iraq and helping the Iraqi people rebuild their country and society.

8. The majority of American citizens, Iraqi citizens and US military would like to see an immediate end to the war in Iraq.
If we are truly a democracy and we aim to create a democracy in Iraq our leaders will represent the will of the citizens and lead according to their wishes.

9. The military is broken.
We are abusing the small population of armed service members with multiple deployments while using inadequate vehicles and equipment. Less than one half of a percent of the American population is serving in the active armed forces, which is the least amount in the last century. Only 25% of the troops in Iraq are there for their first tour, while 50% are there on their second tour, and the remaining 25% are there three times or more. We continue to involuntarily extend soldiers with Stop-Loss, recall them repeatedly for additional service using the Individual Ready Reserve, and send soldiers with diagnosed medical problems into combat.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: September 25, 2007 03:26PM

your point is?
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: September 25, 2007 03:36PM

Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: September 25, 2007 03:52PM

"Q: Why are veterans, active duty, and National Guard men and women opposed to the war in Iraq?"

Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: September 25, 2007 03:55PM

One big glaring question is......WHO GIVES A BIG FAT RATS ASS WHAT THE HELL THE UN SAYS? The UN can kiss this soldiers hairy ass and so can you. Your no damn service member and if you are your a disgrace.
Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: September 25, 2007 04:02PM

This video explains exactly how you dicks are, ignore soldiers being killed and concentrate on politics to try to push your personal ways.

Rep. Marsha Blackburn Exposed As Blatant Hypocrite (Just like 99.9% of all other Politicians) Ron Paul 2008!
Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: September 25, 2007 04:02PM

amen brother. Been in over 20 and never even come close to finding that sort of loser attitude not to mention all the blatant falsehoods he cites. Most of the crap he's spewing is straight out of the liberal playbook on the war. Bunch of little chicken shits.
Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: September 25, 2007 04:26PM

Soldiers Against War? Email this to Soldiers....

Anyone out there that doesn't agree with this video should immediately ENLIST, otherwise, SHUT YOUR HYPPOCRITICAL, TWO-FACED, shit-talking mouths...... go join know or quit "hoping" others will DIE, same thing!
anon Report This Comment
Date: September 25, 2007 04:26PM

a clear example of surrender and it would all be over:

drop the luxor on mecca.
Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: September 25, 2007 04:35PM

Boo Hoo Hoo... they blew my leg off Dad...... Oh well shit happens.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: September 25, 2007 04:55PM

let me're surprised that there's collateral damage in a war zone?
or maybe the kid wandered into a mine field put up by their own people?
or maybe you're claiming that the U.S. targets civilians?

or maybe you should've voted the 2nd time around?
ORLANDO399 Report This Comment
Date: September 25, 2007 05:27PM

probaly a roadside bomb planted by the terrosist,not the u.s., doucebag
madmex2000 Report This Comment
Date: September 25, 2007 07:56PM

we carpet bomb there towns, its freedom on the march. What do you excpect
anon Report This Comment
Date: September 25, 2007 09:53PM

hey digger, i thought you were a tool i used to give you a hard time. but the more i hear from you the more i like you.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: September 25, 2007 10:39PM

bouncing smiley you attempted, how's that ear? grinning
NOT2 Proud tubbe UnUhMerickuuuun Report This Comment
Date: September 25, 2007 11:50PM


Soooooo...let me get this straight.....

"Wure soldiers ana we like to kill shit dead..."

"Doughn matter why, wuhl thank somethin' up".

Uh-huh..Uh-huh, uh-huh....


You're as damaged as the politicians that make you a neccessary evil.

We wind up spending all our nation's wealth on you tards.

Go though and tell your fucktard Right Wing Project for the New American Century Pimps, you're dancing the final chorus on the Iraq Clusterfuck.

You need your career path ass transferred to permanent assignment in Afghanistan, where may you can do something good besides lick GW's uptown never showed up for duty ass......
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: September 26, 2007 12:34AM

so if that's the case weasle dick, then why aren't you there protesting your panties off?
Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: September 26, 2007 12:48AM

Anonymous Wrote:
> "Q: Why are veterans, active duty, and National
> Guard men and women opposed to the war in Iraq?"

Rules were meant to be broken hey?

Nothing too dodgy. If you wouldn't show your mother don't upload it. Illegal / disgusting / indecent images are RIGHT out.

I find this image indecent.

No more of this racist garbage! We are not the KKK

Can't be racist against Blacks or Jews but can get away with saying USA should kill all Arabs?
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: September 26, 2007 01:04AM

madhatter Report This Comment
Date: September 26, 2007 01:06AM

Well, I believe everything that can be thrown at this poster has been said...
so I will just say, If that were an american child on the streets of new york,
because we didn't fight back, would your needle dick,spineless ass be posting
on here?
Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: September 26, 2007 02:50AM

Without a doubt, this is a tragic scene. However, the picture is almost certainly the result of a Sunni suicide truck bomber that exploded in a Shiite market place. It happens with horrifying regularity, killing mostly women and children. The irony of this post is that if the U.S. suddenly withdrew their troops, there would be a civilian bloodbath as various Arab factions would be free to use indiscriminate violence to gain power. Hundreds of thousands of civilians would die. The U.S. would then be blamed for not preventing this.
Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: September 26, 2007 05:30AM

There's already been at least a 100,000 civilians dead.... and yes I would be pissed if our country (in NY or anywhere else) was being occupied and civilians were being killed just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time or at all for that matter.

We have no business being there, it was all for weapons of mass destruction from the beginning and that inteligence was an outright lie, lies on top of lies, we are building and have already built bigtime military bases in Iraq, that was ONE of the goals and if you look at the middle east in general and map out all of our current and future bases you will see OIL is being surrounded, if anyone here talking shit has anyone over in Iraq don't cry if any shit happens, you supported it.

You guys call all your family and friends and talk them into enlisting TODAY, there is no reason to think about it, you already have your minds made up, less talk more action guys.

Civilian contractor - KBR - getting killed......

KBR Convoy Ambushed in Iraq

Uncovered: The Whole Truth about the Iraq war
Pigs_Blood Report This Comment
Date: September 26, 2007 07:14AM

I'm curious why on Monday Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad began his speech at Columbia University....rather than end with a prayer that Allah would hasten the coming of the Islamic Messiah known as the "Mahdi" or the "Twelfth Imam" or the "just and promised One" as he did in 2005 and 2006 in his speeches at the U.N., the Iranian leader actually began the speech this way.... "Oh, God, hasten the arrival of Imam al-Mahdi and grant him good health and victory and make us his followers and those to attest to his rightfulness"....why has he moved the prayer to the front of his remarks?'s not yet clear, but it's important to note that in 2005, Ahmadinejad was telling colleagues that the end of the world was just two or three years away, and that the way to hasten the coming of the Mahdi was to annihilate Israel and the U.S....that was two years, he's no longer burying the lead....yet much of the American media is....they don't seem to realize how central Ahmadinejad's Shiite Islamic eschatology (end times theology) is to Iran's current foreign policy....and that's why they are missing how dangerous this regime really is....when the Mahdi arrives on earth, Shiite scholars say he will appear in Mecca and Medina, but where does he go then?.....not to Iran....not to Jerusalem....not to Europe or Russia....he supposedly heads for Iraq -- Kufa, to be specific....that's what Shiite leaders have taught for centuries....and this helps explain why Iran is sending insurgents, weapons and money into Iraq, to create the conditions of chaos and carnage into which the Mahdi can arrive, finish off the U.S. and Israel, and set up a global Islamic caliphate headquartered in Iraq....who's the leading Shiite insurgent in Iraq?....Muqtada al-Sadr....what's the name of his militia?.....the Mahdi Army. Why is the American left completely blind to the existential threat posed by radical Islamic leaders such as Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad?
Pigs_Blood Report This Comment
Date: September 26, 2007 07:27AM

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad made a host of claims about Iran's domestic and foreign policy in his appearances in New York Monday. The Associated Press compares his claims to what is independently known about the situation there:

About the Media

AHMADINEJAD: "On a daily basis, we have tens — many, many newspapers or dozens of newspapers in our country, and the number of those newspapers that are against the government in place right now are perhaps 10 times larger than the newspapers that are pro- government."

REALITY CHECK: There are more newspapers, usually smaller in circulation, that are opposed to Ahmadinejad than those that are in favor of his administration. However, the government has closed liberal papers and Washington-based Freedom House said "the Iranian government has forcibly closed or banned more than 100 publications since 2000." Iran has also limited the access of the foreign press.


About the Internet

AHMADINEJAD: "In our country there are tens of millions of people who are connected to the Internet. They have access to it. So if you're talking about immoral — like access perhaps to immoral sites, well, you would agree with me that those sites are harmful for society. Nobody can really allow access to those. But our people are the freest people in the world, the most aware people in the world, the most enlightened, so to say."

REALITY CHECK: Iranians generally have access to mainstream Web sites, including U.S. media and government sites. But according to Reporters Without Borders, Iran today filters 10 million "immoral" sites. In addition to pornographic sites, some dealing with religion and politics are targeted and since the summer of 2006, the censors have concentrated on online publications dealing with womens' rights, the group says.


About Women

AHMADINEJAD: "The freest women in the world are the women in Iran."

REALITY CHECK: Women enjoy more rights in Iran than in some other Middle Eastern countries, but far fewer than those enjoyed in the West. Women can drive, vote, own property and run for any public office except the presidency. However, they have to by law cover their hair, avoid body-hugging clothing on pain of arrest and fine by a court. The court testimony of two women is equal to that of one man and women can't get a passport for foreign travel without the permission of their father. A woman cannot divorce easily, while a man can divorce his wife whenever he wants.

Girls are considered adults at the age of 9 while boys become adults at 15. If a man and a woman are injured in an accident, the man gets double the punitive damages.


About Homosexuals

AHMADINEJAD: "In Iran, we don't have homosexuals, like in your country. We don't have that in our country. In Iran, we do not have this phenomenon. I don't know who's told you that we have it."

REALITY CHECK: Mahmoud Asgari, 16, and Ayaz Marhoni, 18, were hanged publicly in 1995 in the city of Mashhad on charges of raping younger boys. They said before their executions that they were not aware that homosexual acts were punishable by death. In 2003, a 16-year-old girl said to be suffering from a psychological disorder was executed in Neka, a town in northern Iran, on charges of having an illegal sexual relationship.
gurugoose Report This Comment
Date: September 26, 2007 10:40AM

fuck me how did he get his foot caught in the chain of his bike ??
Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: September 26, 2007 01:17PM

-that is's too sad for words I'm gonna cry
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: September 26, 2007 02:46PM

This will warm your heart. Just when you have lost faith in human kindness. Someone who teaches at a middle school in Safety Harbor, Florida, forwarded
the following letter. The letter was sent to the principal's office after the school had sponsored a luncheon for the elderly. An old lady received a new radio at the lunch as a door prize and was writing to say thank you. This story is a credit to all humankind. Forward to anyone you know who might need a lift today.
Dear Safety Harbor Middle School:
God bless you for the beautiful radio I won at your recent senior citizens luncheon. I am 84 years old and live at the Safety Harbor Assisted Home for the Aged. All of my family has passed away. I am all alone now and it's nice to know that someone is thinking of me. God bless you for your kindness to an old forgotten lady. My roommate is 95 and has always had her own radio, but before I received one, she would never let me listen to hers, even when she was napping. The other day her radio fell off the nightstand and broke into a lot of pieces. It was awful and she was in tears.
She asked if she could listen to mine, and I told her to kiss my ass.
Thank you for that opportunity.
Placelowerplace Report This Comment
Date: September 26, 2007 03:37PM

Can this picture be deleted yet?
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: September 26, 2007 06:37PM

this is for the kid and his father in this pic

ORLANDO399 Report This Comment
Date: September 26, 2007 07:24PM

Willie were always on my mindthumbs
ORLANDO399 Report This Comment
Date: September 26, 2007 07:25PM

oops,meant "always on my mind"thumbs
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: September 26, 2007 07:28PM

another great 'ole Ray song

Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: September 26, 2007 11:00PM

nothing really to say,just wanted to keep the thread going...How 'bout them
smartyjones Report This Comment
Date: September 26, 2007 11:02PM

Poor kid,there's always professional soccer though.
Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: September 28, 2007 02:51AM

"The current Iraqi government is in place solely because of the U.S. military occupation. The Iraqi government doesn’t have the popular support of the Iraqi people, nor does it have power or authority."

Pure bullshit. The current Iraqi National Assembly was elected by the Iraqi people and the election had a high voter turnout. The majority of the daily violence in Iraq is caused by foreign Islamic extremists who have every intention of turning Iraq into an non-democratic Islamic theocracy. This comment shows how much you are talking out of your ass, and discredits the rest of you arguments.
Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: September 28, 2007 10:36PM

A good one, wrote by US Soldiers in Iraq..... two of them have died since this op-ed.