Marcuseliravage Report This Comment
Date: March 24, 2014 05:53AM

Time to read up....

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and here.....

Marcus Eli Ravage (author)...

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thaaaatan Report This Comment
Date: March 24, 2014 06:00AM

and here.... nothing to do with above but was kinda interesting.

Who was/is SATAN?

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BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: March 27, 2014 05:36PM

Superstition. Fear. The desire to be accepted by the community. They way people are raised. Pressure and propaganda from those in power. Jesus is the Get Into Heaven Free card. What's not attractive about that? All of the above and more.

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: March 28, 2014 12:03PM

What will happen when you die and find out you were wrong? When I die and find out I am wrong then nothing happens.

BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: March 28, 2014 02:21PM

Wrong about what? History? Sociology? Did you see me say anything about my religious beliefs? The whole I'm right and you're wrong game is bullshit and has nothing to do with God, spirituality, etc. It separates people, causes confusion and tension and war.

Mach Report This Comment
Date: March 28, 2014 07:38PM

So, your "God" is a Jewish one?

What about all of the Jewish people that don't believe in Jesus.... they won't be allowed in your Heaven?

Do you support Israel because you think your savior is going to come back and save you there.... so you are just a secondary believer, maybe you'll get to hang out in the Heaven lounge, maybe be a servant, or something.

I know, I know... hell, that's better than Hell.

The point is religion is THE greatest conquest.

Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: March 29, 2014 12:14AM

Con - quest .... con - game, pretty similar

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: March 29, 2014 09:30AM

But believing does me no harm regardless of who's right about about God. I don't believe in organized religion and I believe God is bigger than even the Bible and like I said before my belief does me no harm either way.

BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: March 29, 2014 01:14PM

Your God, my God, get your own God now, 2 for the price of one! Hurry while supplies last!

If your beliefs don't matter to anyone but you then why talk about them at all?

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: March 30, 2014 11:23AM

Because other people talk about it. Some people go out of their way to try and convince people there is no God, I just can't figure out why it bothers them so much that people believe.

quasi Report This Comment
Date: March 30, 2014 01:05PM

It bothers them the same way it would bother you if there was a whole religion and culture built around the firm belief that the Easter Bunny is real, complete with a book of stories and rules that must be followed, some of them very barbaric and cruel rules, and if you don't believe and follow the rules you'll suffer for all eternity. Not a very loving Easter Bunny, that. Oops, I just blasphemed - I'm doomed.

Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: March 30, 2014 03:38PM

Interesting analogy Q-man, well said

All things considered, believing in the easter bunny really isn't any harder to swallow. Hell, at least he brought me eggs n candy, with the promise of deviled eggs to come later in the day.

All the tenets of Christianity ever brought me were tales of never ending horrendous retribution should I fail to embrace/accept its fantastically implausible stories as .... the truth, the way and the light

BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: March 30, 2014 04:21PM

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Posted by: jgoins [x]
Date: March 30, 2014 07:23AM

Because other people talk about it. Some people go out of their way to try and convince people there is no God, I just can't figure out why it bothers them so much that people believe.

Oh that's perfect justification, they do it so I do it. How logical is that?

A lot more people go out of their way to try and convince people there IS a God and that they've got it all figured out and the rest of the people find it bothersome. It's not that difficult to understand.

quasi Report This Comment
Date: March 30, 2014 04:21PM

Actually, there's much more "proof" available to support the belief in the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, and the Tooth Fairy, tangible things. I've also seem actual filmed evidence of the existence of Batman, Superman, Spiderman........damn, that reminds me, I missed Wonder Woman last night - I worshipped her when I was a kid.

BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: March 30, 2014 04:36PM

If I believe in God or not it is because of my own experiences. Ultimately it has absolutely nothing to do with anything or anyone else and it's nobody else's business.

I believe in Quasi in a kayak. I've seen video evidence of it.

pro_junior Report This Comment
Date: March 30, 2014 06:50PM

"If your beliefs don't matter to anyone but you then why talk about them at all?"
I guess the same reason you felt the need to tell us all how you hate Geddy Lee's voice.

also...

Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: March 30, 2014 07:43PM

That one of the easter bunny hippity hoppin his way outta the tomb is one of my all time fave pics here. Makes me wanna rush right out and get a chocolate easter bunny just so I can gnaw its ears off, then bust out the deviled eggs makins and get busy





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BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: March 31, 2014 03:07AM

Boy, you sure got me there PJ. You have exposed my plan to convince everyone in the world that Geddy Lee sings like he's got his nuts in a vise.

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: March 31, 2014 11:31AM

I never got any of that doom and gloom when I read the Bible. The only time I felt the doom and gloom was when I attended church which is why I stopped going.

Mach Report This Comment
Date: April 02, 2014 11:32PM

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: April 03, 2014 11:37AM

Yes sir that horse is dead

Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: April 03, 2014 12:52PM

Dead? Like all the millions of fellow humans who have died by the hands of, in the name of or for the sake of their all loving gods? Dead like those folks

If it requires religious coercion for a man/woman to act morally, what does that really say about them

BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: April 03, 2014 02:44PM

Humanity invented religions and gods. That doesn't prove whether God exists or not. Not believing in a religious imagination of God does not mean a person is atheist either.



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jgoins Report This Comment
Date: April 04, 2014 12:25PM

Believing what you choose is the definition of freedom of religion.

Mach Report This Comment
Date: April 10, 2014 09:40PM

You didn't choose anything, you were brainwashed from birth by a generation that was brainwashed by all of the previous generations etc... etc...

Ok, you are confidently, brainwashed... that'll do pig, that'll do.....

Humans are just like every other animal, habitual..... any habit over a period of time becomes second-nature, long, long periods of time after that and you get EVOLUTION.

That's what the Socialist are trying to pull even more than ever.... political correctness (a type of non-god religion) that they have shoved down peoples throats for generations that after awhile is accepted as just another day of "their" right way.... another form of conquering (ref: religion) you could say.... conquer from the inside, out.



"It is unbelievable, but you Christians do not seem to know where your religion came from, nor how, nor why. Your historians, with one great exception, do not tell you. The documents in the case, which are part of your Bible, you chant over but do not read. We have done our work too thoroughly; you believe our propaganda too implicitly. The coming of Christianity is to you not an ordinary historical event growing out of other events of the time; it is the fulfilment of a divine Jewish prophecy—with suitable amendments of your own. It did not, as you see it, destroy a great Gentile civilization and a great Gentile empire with which Jewry was at war; it did not plunge mankind into barbarism and darkness for a thousand years; it came to bring salvation to the Gentile world!"

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: April 11, 2014 11:09AM

As an adult I have looked at both sides of religion and I chose to stay away from organized religion. I have faith and I have chosen to believe in God and Jesus not because others have told me to but simply because it makes me feel good. When it comes down to it, to believe or not believe is a personal decision and no one can make that decision for you.

I do agree with you on the political correctness thing. I have never been accused of being politically correct and never will. Political correctness will be our downfall and it will be the reason we get attacked again and again.

Mach Report This Comment
Date: April 11, 2014 05:24PM

"I have chosen to believe in God and Jesus"

After you were taught and brought up to believe.... you chose?

BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: April 11, 2014 09:15PM

By stating that humans are habitual animals you have eliminated the possibility of choice so the question is irrelevant.

Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: April 11, 2014 10:58PM

It would seem more like a method of indoctrination, which of course is a pattern of habitualized behavior. It would seem a very valid argument could be made for this due in large part to how most people follow in the same religious paths as their family historically have in the past.

Even when an individual chooses to embrace a different segment of their chosen religion, they still tend to stay within the overall confines of that particular faith, be it Christianity, Muslim, Jewish, or whatever faith they were raised in.

Familial constructs and bonds are often very strong, not to mention how the expectations of our parents too, often seem to confine and define our lives. Most people crave acceptance from their parents and choosing to go against their particular religious bent is always one of the least pleasing acts a child can do in the eyes of most parents. In many families, such a choice leads to a sense of betrayal by the parent. All too often such a choice by a child can lead to a familial rift lasting years, decades, or even a lifetime

Mach Report This Comment
Date: April 12, 2014 04:16AM

It's "funny," Christianity, Muslim and Jewish all have lots of the same characters one way or the other, Abraham is a good start.....

[en.wikipedia.org]



All the major Abrahamic religions claim a direct lineage to Abraham:

Abraham is recorded in the Torah as the ancestor of the Israelites through his son Isaac, born to Sarah through a promise made in Genesis.[Gen. 17:16][11] All variants of Judaism through the early 20th century (prophetic, rabbinic, reform, and conservative) were founded by Israelite descendants.


The sacred text of Christianity is the Christian Bible, the first part of which, the Old Testament, is derived from the Hebrew Bible, leading to similar ancestry claims as above, though most Christians are gentiles who consider themselves as grafted into the family tree under the New Covenant, see significance of Abraham for Christians for details.


It is the Islamic tradition that Muhammad, as an Arab, is descended from Abraham's son Ishmael. Jewish tradition also equates the descendants of Ishmael, Ishmaelites, with Arabs, as the descendants of Isaac by Jacob, who was also later known as Israel, are the Israelites.[12]





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A lot of these are downright Evolutionary give-away reactions... great finding lies lessons. The point is, people do lots of things every day that are very habitual and common place and don't even realize most of it....

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Simple things that a lot of people are actually controlled by... (not me, of course)

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Mach Report This Comment
Date: April 12, 2014 04:57AM

Are You Hypnotizable?

Test, only 1m 40s....

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jgoins Report This Comment
Date: April 12, 2014 11:25AM

According to that test I am not hipnotizeable. So I guess I can make my own decisions.

BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: April 13, 2014 02:44PM

Hypnosis is repetitive suggestion to a willing mind.

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: April 14, 2014 10:45AM

I guess repetitive suggestion didn't work on me because I don't like the church.

Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: April 14, 2014 11:30AM

I liked The Church, "Under the Milky Way" is a cool tune

Oh wait. problee a different Church ... nevermind





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BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: April 14, 2014 01:06PM

I didn't imply or intend to imply that repetitive suggestion was hypnosis, but that hypnosis is one type of repetitive suggestion. Brainwashing is another. Indoctrination another. Advertisement another. Propaganda another.

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: April 15, 2014 10:27AM

Well religion does no harm to me and I do no harm to others because of religion.