GAK67
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Date: November 07, 2012 08:28AM
Look on the bright side guys - he wont be president after the next election.
jgoins
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Date: November 07, 2012 09:24AM
If we survive until next election. America got stupid again.
woberto
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Date: November 07, 2012 11:32AM
And next election you can vote for Libertarians. That's a good start in my book.
Mrkim
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Date: November 07, 2012 02:24PM
Sadly, the only libertarian candidate I had any faith in just retired from politics
To all the US Obozo supporters I just wanna say thanks for insuring the all of new taxes and huge tax hikes slated for 2013 will now come to fruition
We working poor are sure gettin awfully tired of supporting the rest of you fuckers so enamored of all the Obozo $$ that comes outta our back pockets so you can keep gettin all your great freebies
BlahX3
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Date: November 07, 2012 03:16PM
It is arrogant to think you speak for everyone in the working class. You most certainly do not.
It is incredibly insulting to call the people who have worked for and earned their benefits freeloaders too.
fossil_digger
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Date: November 07, 2012 03:34PM
i was unaware that we were working for food stamps etc...

i must be an idiot.
fossil_digger
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Date: November 07, 2012 03:57PM
show me on my paystubs where i am buying into all these programs (other than the obvious unemployment), i'd like to see if i can opt out.
Wolfgang613
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Date: November 08, 2012 01:54AM

Suck it Haters... Suck it Hard and Suck it Long...
fossil_digger
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Date: November 08, 2012 02:06AM
the NWO applauds your complacency, wolf.
BlahX3
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Date: November 08, 2012 04:31AM
There is no NWO, Conspiracy_Digger.
Employees don't pay unemployment insurance tax either, the employer does.
Mrkim
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Date: November 08, 2012 05:52AM
Hey blah, I speak for myself and many others I come in contact with daily, though I'd never attempt to speak for you as your liberalist entitlement perspective is one I could never grasp, much less "speak for".
Before you layout one more line about what anyone owes you or about what you should then be entitled to, lemme just ask .... want some cheese to go with that whine?
I know we're close to the same age, but just for a reference point, I'm 56. Been workin since I was 15 and expect to do so until I drop. I've paid in for 41yrs now and know I'll continue to do so.
In my working career I've gone great damage to my body and live with aches and pains every fuckin day and you know what .... I still get my ass up every day and go to work, not because I LOVE my job, but because I believe it's important to support myself and because I don't want a god damned thing from the fuckin government but to be left alone.
And before you start in on how "justified" you are in sittin on your ass every day and how you're "entitled" to that check that hits your bank account every month for sittin on your ass while millions of the rest of us get up and join the daily grind so that damned check you get will clear ever month, lemme tellya I too am technically disabled, just like many more of us are.
I have a bad back that needs a second surgery, bursitis in both shoulders, tendonitis in both elbows, carpal tunnel in both wrists, both knees problee need rebuilding and in all likelihood I should have a hip replacement, none of which can I afford to have done.
While you might think with all that goin on I'd be all for gettin that damned Obozocare started so I could sit back and let others pay for my shit, afterall, I've been payin in for a long time and I should get what's mine right?
The short and sweet of it again is all I want from the government is to be left the fuck alone. Left alone to do as I please, when and where I please and with whom I please. That means I don't need some bureaucrat telling me which doctor to see, when I will be able to see them, nor making any decisions about what type or level of treatment I'll be receiving.
I also don't need to sully my dignity every time I go to the fuckin grocery store by presenting the clerk with a damned food stamp card. I pay cash or use my debit card because I WORK for a livin and don't hafta whine about how anyones owes me anything.
You know what else that means? It also means I can buy any damned thing I want when I go to the store, EVERYTHING is on MY list because I get to decide what I want, not have some agency or their minions decide for me about what I can and can't or shouldn't buy. Try takin your food stamp card to the liquor store and lemmekno how well that works for ya.
There are things I was taught to have a reasonable expectation of in regards to the relationship between myself and the US govt. I was always told I was entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, though I also understood that pursuit part was solely my responsibility to enable for myself as only the possibility of such pursuit was my right, certainly nothing like a guarantee of anything but a personally generated possibility.
In summation, the whole entitlement mentality people like yourself cling to has done more to undermine our countrys prosperity and push us past the precipice of national bankruptcy than any other factor regarding our economy, so from one working poor American, here's a big "Thanks dill weed" for doin your part
And not to forget little wolfie ...
Thanks again for regaling us with more of your always concise libspeak, espoused in the truest sense, as always, totally devoid of intellect, wit or even a point put forth with anything more than a 5th grader could garner. Then again, I could never expect anything less from you, therefore you certainly never disappoint
Mrkim
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Date: November 08, 2012 06:09AM
And thanks to the govt coercing my employer into paying unemployment insurance along with also having to bankroll the govts agencies that take their cut and then payout to the unemployed in the process, my employer also has less funds to pay ME and give ME more benefits, nevermind it also drains away precious operating or expansion capital at the same time that hurts overall employment as they then have fewer jobs to offer to anyone else,
It's quite obvious you don't have a clue how business and taxes work. People pay taxes, businesses don't. Businesses just pass the governmentally imposed taxes on to their customers, so their customers and consumers, who are are people, then actually pay the taxes, not the companies
If believing those bad old money grubbing companies, the same ones that give jobs to PEOPLE, are the ones who pay taxes helps you rest easier at night, I guess there's some value in that. Just don't expect those sniggling economic realities to simply vanish into thin air because of your deluded concepts of how it all works, 'cause that definitely won't be happening
BlahX3
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Date: November 08, 2012 06:56AM
Yeah, that's me alright, MrKim, another photocopied liberal occupying that nasty little corner of your mind you love to hate. I may be "liberal" to you based on the next to jack shit you know about me but I don't exactly fit into that pigeonhole. People are individuals, Kim. We think differently than each other, remember?
You can do all the witty and wordy name calling you like. It doesn't make you right. Or even close.
whatever
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Date: November 08, 2012 09:36AM
C'mon, Blah! You know perfectly well that everyone thinking the same way is what the "nonlibertarians" are after.
Now, what was that first definition of a fascist party again?
Ah yes: unprincipled opportunism. Just like the predatory capitalism of the GOP and its country-club mobs...
jgoins
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Date: November 08, 2012 11:54AM
Not everything is an entitlement program. Disability is not an entitlement like food stamps or welfare, it is only in the fact that I worked for years paying in through my taxes so that I can get my check now that I am blind. Now believe it or not I make too much money to get any welfare program or food stamps, I guess my tan is not dark enough for those. Mr Kim if you are in such bad shape physically you are truly entitled to disability because of all the years you have paid in and should not be ashamed to get a check. I felt the same way in the beginning but I was reminded of all the taxes that were taken out of my check for all those years and now I believe the money belonged to me anyway.
fossil_digger
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Date: November 08, 2012 12:39PM
no NWO conspiracy? you're right, it's a reality. damn son, you're supposed to be one of the smart ones here? they even admit it.
BlahX3
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Date: November 08, 2012 04:29PM
That is not what I said, Fossil_Doofus, I said the opposite. There is no NWO. I did not say there was no conspiracy to create one. I am also older than you so it is inappropriate for you to call me son.
JG, that is why I put "entitlements" in quotes. You and I may not view them the same as politicians do. Regardless I've worked my ass off since I was 14 and paid my taxes so any government benefits I might qualify for, whether "entitlements" or not, have been bought and paid for as far as I am concerned.
fossil_digger
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Date: November 08, 2012 05:26PM
Novus Ordo Seclorum
google time Blurf
pro_junior
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Date: November 08, 2012 06:12PM
I'm pissed that I'm not going to be getting a free pony.
BlahX3
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Date: November 08, 2012 06:34PM
I already know what it means.
¤¥¤
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Date: November 08, 2012 07:35PM
Now that he has been re-elected they should begin impeachment proceedings over lying to the American people and putting his campaign above the welfare of US citizens in the Benghazi coverup.
fossil_digger
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Date: November 08, 2012 10:12PM
there is still hope for change
woberto
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Date: November 09, 2012 09:52AM
It seems that poor people voted for Obama, and there are shit loads of them prepared to vote.
If you put aside the flaws in the election/voting process, the result is just bad luck for you Kim.
I'd be asking why are there so many poor or "working poor" in America. If there are enough of them to swing an election then Republicans better start offering them something to vote for.
quasi
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Date: November 09, 2012 10:27AM
Offer 'em free tickets to emmigrate to Australia.
jgoins
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Date: November 09, 2012 11:34AM
Now I just found out that Odamna is going to go after our guns somehow using treaties this time.
BlahX3
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Date: November 09, 2012 09:51PM
Yeah yeah, whatever. You know the Democratic Party's agenda. Did you expect any of that to change? I saw no mention of treaties involved and I suspect that is bullshit talk but no matter, you wouldn't get the facts straight anyway. The Dems are going to push for background checking on gun owners and maybe that's not such a bad idea anyway. Any law abiding citizen owning firearms should have nothing to be worried about anyhow. I think the point is to keep the guns out of the hands of people who are going to use them for the wrong reasons. That seems like something that would benefit all of America.
fossil_digger
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Date: November 09, 2012 09:57PM
you really should do some reading, Blurf before sticking your foot in your mouth.
[
freedomoutpost.com]
[
www.reuters.com]
[
www.ijreview.com]
these are from the top 5 google searches.
BlahX3
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Date: November 09, 2012 10:17PM
Boo hoo. I was wrong. I am devastated. Not. So what? You are wrong all the time and never admit it. I'm not afraid to be wrong and make mistakes. Even if such a treaty were to be ratified by congress (which it won't be) then what is there to worry about? As long as all you rootin-tootin-gun-toters got your thunder sticks legitimately then why are you worried?
fossil_digger
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Date: November 09, 2012 10:30PM
i am NEVER wrong.
x
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Date: November 09, 2012 11:06PM
ummm...
U.S. officials have acknowledged privately that the treaty under discussion would have no effect on domestic gun sales and ownership because it would apply only to exports.
BlahX3
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Date: November 10, 2012 12:21AM
You are afraid to admit it. Your over-inflated ego must be too fragile to do so.
fossil_digger
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Date: November 10, 2012 01:40AM
um....Toad, you need to do some more reading also.
fossil_digger
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Date: November 10, 2012 01:55AM
did you not know we had the Office for Disarmament Affairs and a U.S. Deputy Director of the Office of Weapons Removal and Abatement, Toad? Blurf?
fossil_digger
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Date: November 10, 2012 01:58AM
do you 2 geniuses not know that the goal of the agreement is to be UN control of the “manufacture, control, trafficking, circulation, brokering and trade, as well as tracing, finance, collection and destruction of small arms and light weapons?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/11/2012 02:39AM by fossil_digger.
fossil_digger
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Date: November 10, 2012 02:45AM
if you 2 need further assistance, do not hesitate to remove your feet from your mouths and ask.
jgoins
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Date: November 10, 2012 10:19AM
I am glad Arkansas still allows sales of personally owned guns privately. This is the way I purchase my handguns and yard sales and the fleamarket, no paper trail.
BlahX3
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Date: November 10, 2012 01:19PM
I already admitted I was wrong so shut up already.
Now it is your turn to admit you are wrong, but you won't. Your ego would not permit such a thing.
Office for Disarmament Affairs is within the UN, doesn't quite qualify as a "we have" and all they are trying to do is help keep illicit arms trading from happening.
OFFICE OF WEAPONS REMOVAL AND ABATEMENT is only concerned with raising awareness of existing laws and violations regulating certain types of arms that no one in America has a need for anyway. You don't need landmines and portable rocket launchers and automatic weapons to go hunting or to protect your family. Maybe in some other country but not in the USA. Still, their purpose is to help limit illicit arms trade. What is wrong about that?
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fossil_digger
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Date: November 10, 2012 08:40PM
if they mean nothing to us, then why have they moved from Geneva to the U.S.? so yes we DO have them
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fossil_digger
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Date: November 10, 2012 08:44PM
would you care to take another swing at it,Toad?
BlahX3
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Date: November 11, 2012 03:45PM
How are either of the organizations goals going to affect legitimate gun owners in the US?
fossil_digger
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Date: November 11, 2012 03:53PM
that is the stupidest question you have ever asked me.
BlahX3
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Date: November 11, 2012 04:26PM
I wasn't asking you in particular in the first place, in fact the question was more directed toward JG, since he made the statement that Obama is going after our guns. That should have been obvious. But since you are at the center of your own attention and think you're so smart then perhaps you can explain how trying to enforce existing national and international gun trade laws is going to effect US citizens who legally own guns?
fossil_digger
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Date: November 11, 2012 06:57PM
if things are so obvious to you, then your answer should also be .
BlahX3
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Date: November 11, 2012 07:09PM
what a fucking lame cop out. Like I said, I wasn't specifically asking you in the first place, dumbass. Admit it, you don't have a good answer, you ego-maniacal bozo, as if it mattered anyway. You always do the same kinda shit Fossil. Get over yourself.
fossil_digger
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Date: November 11, 2012 07:22PM
* insert a Kim 20 paragraph explanation *
HERE
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BlahX3
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Date: November 11, 2012 08:10PM
Not surprised. Another cop out from F_D.
fossil_digger
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Date: November 11, 2012 08:29PM
you know the answer and agree
*in my "hypnotic" voice*
jgoins
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Date: November 12, 2012 11:26AM
Maybe he will use those treaties to try and disarm all of America.
BlahX3
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Date: November 12, 2012 02:40PM
Yeah, uh huh, and maybe he will use the new international tobacco trade treaty to take away all our smokes.
fossil_digger
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Date: November 12, 2012 03:18PM
maybe you'll pull your head out of your ass and the rest of us will smell the roses.
jgoins
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Date: November 13, 2012 10:29AM
Well I guess we will just have to wait and see, the idiots in this country brought him back. I just hope he doesn't decide to become a permanent dictator.