BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: September 03, 2012 01:15AM

Rubber-necking from the comfort of home.

pulse Report This Comment
Date: September 03, 2012 02:05AM

It was a crazy crash, 2 cars airborn and Fernando Alonso damn lucky to still have a head as the Lotus-Renault of Romain Grosjean flies past around 30cm from his head.

Was a really good race actually, a lot happened. And for a change Pastor Maldonado proved again what a total hack he is.

woberto Report This Comment
Date: September 03, 2012 02:10AM

No doubt he squeezed him but Hamilton could have put a wheel on the paint and avoided it.

fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: September 03, 2012 02:16AM

it might take someone's head to be taken off to initiate a canopy allowance rule in F-1.

pulse Report This Comment
Date: September 03, 2012 05:04AM

The view from Hamilton's, and particularly Alonso's cockpit cameras is pretty frightening

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GAK67 Report This Comment
Date: September 03, 2012 05:49AM

Haters gonna hate, berto, but I don't see how it was in any way Hamilton's fault.

woberto Report This Comment
Date: September 03, 2012 01:15PM

You can't blame the squeezee I agree.
But when you're getting squeezed you always have two choices.

fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: September 03, 2012 01:45PM

the guy that rear ended the black car and sent him into the others gets the fault in my book.

i think he was trying to spin him out and picked a corner to do it in. that would make me think that he did it on purpose.



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GAK67 Report This Comment
Date: September 03, 2012 09:02PM

You need to look again, f-d. The guy (Hamilton) who rear-ended the black car (Grosjean) was pushed onto the grass by Grosjean and was recovering from that, so rear-ending him was unavoidable. It was the black car that caused it all, and the stewards see it the same way, giving him a 1 race ban for it.

BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: September 03, 2012 09:15PM

I got the same impression from video, Gak.

fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: September 03, 2012 10:22PM

it looked to me, from the second view, that he lost it into the grass and recovered into the rear end of the black car causing the whole deal.

BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: September 03, 2012 11:04PM

He lost it in the grass after his front wheel hit the rear wheel of the the black car, you can see a puff of smoke from the tires just before he heads into the grass and then the big mess happens.

pulse Report This Comment
Date: September 04, 2012 01:37AM

Hamilton had lost the place, and clearly could've backed off and avoided the accident, HOWEVER Grosjean (black car) also very sharply moves right into him before he has completed the pass. Grosjean admitted afterwards he thought he was past Hamilton before he moved over on him.

As much as Hamilton COULD have avoided it, he is under no obligation to let a car pass him unless he is being told by the race stewards to do so (eg blue flag). He also couldn't have predicted the sharp right turn. If Grosjean held his line it wouldn't have happened.

I disagree with enclosed cockpits in F1, but it could provide added safety. Fortunately it's been 18 years since the last F1 fatality, and even injuries are pretty rare. It does make you think about what would've happened if Alonso (Ferrari) was about 30cm closer to the Lotus flying past (and 30cm is nothing in F1, you couldn't blink at that speed).

woberto Report This Comment
Date: September 04, 2012 02:31AM

Well JV did kill that guy a few years ago in Melbourne.
Safer to be a driver than a marshall.

pulse Report This Comment
Date: September 04, 2012 05:06AM

There's been a couple of marshalls killed in recent years, there was another a year or two ago (can't remember where, Spain maybe?) - flying wheels are MEANT to be a thing of the past with the tethers etc, but obviously extreme force can still snap them.

The JV issue was just a total freak, the perfect combination of wheel sized gap in fence, marshall in the wrong place at the wrong time and accident all in the one place.

Driver safety is incredible in F1 though. You look at some of the accidents over the past few years, from Kubica's massive crash a couple of years ago, to last weekend, Massa's head injury from the flying spring etc. There's been a couple of decent injuries, some even serious, but nowhere near fatalities and there's been a lot of high speed impacts.

As you say, safer to be in the car than outside it