Mrkim Report This Comment Date: May 18, 2012 12:45AM
Amazing when even Obozos literary agents claim he was born in Kenya ... in
1991
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www.breitbart.com]
GAK67 Report This Comment Date: May 18, 2012 01:30AM
And literary agents are paragons of ethics and have never been known to get
things wrong, or embellish things like say, I don't know, make an author seem
more worldly than he actually is.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: May 18, 2012 01:49AM
Yakno, that's an excellent point GAK and lo and behold, they did totally change
their bio info on Obozo just 2 months after he announced his candidacy [
www.breitbart.com]
Curiouser and curiouser
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: May 18, 2012 04:41AM
good 'ole Yak, sucker to the end.
GAK67 Report This Comment Date: May 18, 2012 07:40AM
There goes fossil again, trying to imply I have said more than I actually have.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: May 18, 2012 10:41AM
Had you chosen to have read the attached articles GAK you might have noticed
that in discussions with the publisher they mentioned in most cases, while the
authors agents submitted their bio information, the info was also typically
proofed and approved by the individual authors prior to publication.
'Course it's not that great a stretch to believe a man who would lie about such
personal life details like when and where his parents met (at a civil rights
rally which took place 4 yrs after he was born), or about how his Mom had
"battled with uncaring insurance companies before her death", which he
carped on about in many of his speeches as he sought backing for his wildly
unpopular Obozocare legislation when facts provided show no such battle, much
less even any wrangling ever took place at all, would also fabricate other life
details to best suit the scenario at hand, facts and truth be damned.
Show me a man that would lie about such intimate details of their life and I'll
tellya that same individual is very likely a pathological liar, an observation
psychological profilers will typically point to as well.
In typical social justice/libspeak fashion it's amazing how you'd choose to
attack the messenger (his literary agent), as opposed to the message itself,
which is in this case is either manipulation of the factual details, or indeed
the real truth itself
jgoins Report This Comment Date: May 18, 2012 10:46AM
Well Gak it sounded to me like you were defending Odamna by trying to refute
the claim.
woberto Report This Comment Date: May 18, 2012 11:12AM
Our Prime Minister said she was gay when she was trying to get into a union
position with the Universities.
Now she's straight.
They will say/do whatever it takes to get elected.
The truth is NOT out there.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: May 18, 2012 01:16PM
you'll take an uppercut leading with your chin every time around me Yak.
x Report This Comment Date: May 18, 2012 02:52PM
If its on the internet it must be true.
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fossil.digger.swellserver.com]
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 18, 2012 04:18PM
Don't you guys ever get tired of bantering back and forth about the same
bullshit? It isn't gonna change anything.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: May 18, 2012 04:33PM
damn Toad, creating fake police reports now?
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 18, 2012 04:55PM
The "I'm a pretty princess!" part was kinda funny though.
Anything can be faked on the internet. It's really funny and very sad at the
same time that people will believe it though.
GAK67 Report This Comment Date: May 18, 2012 05:33PM
I didn't "choose to attack the messenger (his literary agent), as opposed
to the message itself" and I wasn't "defending Odamna by trying to
refute the claim". I was merely pointing out the original post is hardly
categorical proof of your president's country of birth.
Obama is a politician and, unless he is a saint (which I don't believe for a
second), he would have lied about something to get into office. I don't think
there is a politician in history who hasn't.
As Blah pointed out, nothing is going to change. If there was sufficient
evidence to kick Obama out of office it would have been found by now, and even
if there is evidence that is yet to be found it's not going to be found by the
likes of you or I. Whining on here about it certainly isn't going to bring it to
light. Deal with it and move on.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 18, 2012 05:56PM
What pisses me off is more real than all this Obrithy bullshit; I now have to
provide a certified copy of MY birth certificate in order to renew my fucking
driver license which I have had renewed in the same damn state for over 25
years.
You're all very witty motherfuckers and clever as hell. Seriously, you are. You
should be very proud of yourselves and you can all go home now thinking you won
an argument on the internet too. What puzzles me is that if it really does not
matter to you what others think then why do you keep trying to make it matter?
You can't change my thinking nor I yours.
quasi Report This Comment Date: May 18, 2012 06:08PM
I've been licensed to drive and had the same address for over 30 years and when
I renew next year I'll have to show my birth certificate and proof of residence,
as though that will prove I'm not a terrorist. Actually, I haven't had the same
address for over 30 years - I've lived at the same place that long but back
around '85 they paved the road and changed it's name & my number. Maybe I
should take 'em on a tour of the area and tell them what was here in "the
old days" to prove my residence.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 18, 2012 06:37PM
It might be easier for an illegal immigrant, er, excuse me, an
undocumented
alien, to get a driver license now.
woberto Report This Comment Date: May 18, 2012 10:54PM
Hey BlahBlahBlah, you might like this one, it's been doing the rounds for a few
years in different versions for different countries. Here's the Australian
version...
"A friend sent this. I don’t know how to check it, and anyway that’s
not the point. This primal scream is a fine example of how dangerous and
stupid statism is, and wonderfully reminds us how important it is to fight
against the statists, all the while remembering to laugh at them. And
ourselves, of course…
Here you go:
AUSTRALIAN LETTER OF THE YEAR.
This is an actual letter sent to the DFAT (Department of Foreign
Affairs and Trade) Immigration Minister. The Government tried
desperately to censure the author, but got nowhere because every
legal person who read it nearly wet themselves laughing!
ADVERTISEMENT
Dear Mr Minister,
I’m in the process of renewing my passport, and still cannot believe this.
How is it that K-Mart has my address and telephone number, and knows
that I bought a television set, a golf clubs and 6 condoms from them back in
1997,
and yet the Federal Government is still asking me where I was born and on what
date?
For Christ sakes, do you guys do this by hand?
My birth date you have in my Medicare information, and it is on all
the income tax forms I’ve filed for the past 40 years..
It is also on my driver’s licence, on the last eight passports I’ve ever
had, on all those
stupid customs declaration forms I’ve had to fill out before being allowed off
planes
over the past 30 years.
It’s also on all those insufferable census forms that I’ve filled out every
5 years since 1966.
Also… would somebody please take note, once and for all, that my mother’s
name is
Audrey, my father’s name is Jack, and I’d be absolutely fucking astounded if
that ever
changed between now and when I drop dead!!!…
What the hell do you people do with all this information we keep having to
provide??
I apologise, Mr. Minister. But I’m really pissed off this morning..
Between you and me, I’ve had enough of all this bullshit!
You send the application to my house, then you ask me for my address!!
What the hell is going on with your mob? Have you got a gang of mindless
Neanderthal arseholes working there!
And another thing, look at my damn picture. … Do I look like Bin Laden?
I can’t even grow a beard for God’s sakes. I just want to go to New
Zealand and see
my new granddaughter.. (Yes, my son interbred with a Kiwi girl). And would
someone
please tell me, why would you give a shit whether or not I plan on visiting a
farm in the
next 15 days? In the unlikely event I ever got the urge to do something weird to
a sheep
or a horse, believe you me, I’d sure as hell not want to tell anyone!
Well, I have to go now, ’cause I have to go to the other side of Sydney, and
get another
fucking copy of my birth certificate – and to part with another $80 for the
privilege of
accessing MY OWN INFORMATION!
Would it be so complicated to have all the services in the same spot, to
assist in the
issuance of a new passport on the same day??
Nooooo.. that ‘d be far too fucking easy.
You would much prefer to have us running all over the bloody place and then have
to find some ‘high-society’ wanker to confirm that it’s really me in the
goddamn photo! You know the photo… the one where we’re not allowed to
smile?!.
Signed – An Irate Australian Citizen.
P.S. Remember what I said above about the picture, and getting
someone in ‘high-society’ to confirm that it’s me? Well, my family
has been in this country since before 1820! In 1856, one of my
forefathers took up arms with Peter Lalor. (You do remember the
Eureka Stockade!!)
I have also served in both the CMF and regular Army for something
over 30 years (I went to Vietnam in 1967), and still have high
security clearances. I’m also a personal friend of the president of
the RSL… and Lt General Peter Cosgrove sends me a Christmas card
each year.
However, your rules require that I have to get someone “important” to
verify who I am; You know… someone like my doctor -who was born in
Pakistan
!!!…… a country where they either assassinate or hang their ex-Prime
Ministers
- and are suspended from the Commonwealth and United Nations for not having
the “right sort of government”."
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 19, 2012 05:37AM
Yeah. I've read very similar things but that's a good one. Guess what Homeland
Insecurity? I can still drive a fucking car without a license, I don't but I
sure as hell can. Now how does this shit help in the war on terror? I guess
because I don't fly and they can't tickle my balls they have to get at me
somehow, huh?
quasi Report This Comment Date: May 19, 2012 10:26AM
I have to admit that if I took off my hat long enough to get a deep tan on my
face and put on traditional Arab garb, with my pretty good ability to mimic
different accents I could pass for a sheik and get myself busted in a heartbeat.
jgoins Report This Comment Date: May 19, 2012 10:46AM
Here in Arkansas we do not need to provide a birth certificate to renew our
DL's. We just hand them the old one tell them our information pay the money and
stand for a hideous picture and walk out with new license.
quasi Report This Comment Date: May 19, 2012 12:35PM
You sure about that, jgoins? The rules are changin' all over to conform with
the national ID bullshit.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 19, 2012 02:01PM
That's the way it used to be here too. It's changing all over the country like
Q said.
pro_junior Report This Comment Date: May 19, 2012 04:29PM
I just had to pay $129.95 for a
TWIC
card so I can enter ports in a truck...
quasi Report This Comment Date: May 19, 2012 05:09PM
Why do I not feel any safer. I miss the good old days when I was a kid during
the cold war and our school didn't even bother with "duck and cover"
'cause we were 10 miles from Strategic Air Command HQ and wasn't anything gonna
save us from the bomb.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 19, 2012 05:14PM
It's all faked up shit for appearances to fool the people into a false sense of
security. It makes it appear that the government is doing something. Problem is
we are paying for it, we are paying for nothing. People are too fucking
gullible. Sometimes I hope it is actually changing and people are starting to
wake up, then they open their mouths and pop that bubble for me.
quasi Report This Comment Date: May 19, 2012 05:28PM
Oh, I think it's probably preventing attacks in some ways but that just causes
a change in strategy on the part of anyone who wants to cause terror. There are
so many soft targets spread throughout the country that it wouldn't take a lot
of imagination or skill to make a coordinated attack on multiple targets and
really do some damage. I wouldn't say the security efforts have all been futile,
but a determined enemy will find a different target.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 19, 2012 05:57PM
Yeah, you are the voice of reason there and some of the government actions are
deterrents but as you say a criminal is gonna find a way to do the crime anyway.
It's wartime and we have to make some sacrifices. It is the unfortunate truth. I
don't have to like it.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: May 20, 2012 03:12AM
I see your points GAK and Blah .... when we see injustice, wrongdoing and
deceptions we should do like you guys, turn a blind eye, shrug it off and say
"Fuck it, what does it matter anyway?".
I have to wonder, do either of you ever find it difficult when you look in the
mirror, or have you become so jaded to whom you've become it dudn ever register
anymore
woberto Report This Comment Date: May 20, 2012 03:34AM
Time to take your pill Kim.
And get a job ya bum!
jgoins Report This Comment Date: May 20, 2012 11:24AM
Took my daughter and her husband to renew the DL's a couple of weeks ago and
they didn't need the birth certificates then.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 20, 2012 12:25PM
You're not making much sense Kim. Maybe you oughta re-read the thread. It's a
conversation, you know, those things that happen when people talk to each other,
listen and respond.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: May 20, 2012 02:04PM
My reading and literary comprehension skills are just fine, always have been,
even the ability to read between the lines and conceptualize what the unsaid
also reveals.
You 2 guys however seem to be so enamored with Obozo that even reading what is
plainly stated can't be objectively inspected, only belittled and
downplayed.
Should justice ever prevail in this case (which I highly doubt will reach
fruition, since congress itself has to act on it, and obviously there's no will
for that) I'd be willin to bet even then you guys will continue to just as
blindly support him
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 20, 2012 03:26PM
"the ability to read between the lines and conceptualize what the unsaid
also reveals"
That is also a good description of making assumptions and you are very good at
that.
You can of course think what you want to but it doesn't make it fact. As I have
stated several times I do not support any of the current politicians campaigning
for the presidency. There is nothing in between the lines to read.
I don't vehemently hate Obama, is that what bothers you? That certainly doesn't
mean I support him though. I won't fit into your mental categories Kim. I just
won't. Quit trying.
GAK67 Report This Comment Date: May 20, 2012 10:12PM
A great line from a terrible Steven Segal movie: "Assumption is the mother
of all fuck-ups".
You have no conception of my sense of justice and what I do when faced with
injustice from what I choose to share on here kim.
You talk about justice prevailing as if you are judge and jury in this and have
already made your determination, and then you accuse us of injustice and blindly
believing in a position. I would suggest you look in the mirror, but you have
already stated that you think people like you are portraying yourself to be
should stuggle with how they see themselves, so I wouldn't want you distraught
by the image you see.
I have never stated on here that I support Obama, but I believe that critisism
of public figures should be based on fact, not conjecture, on attitudes and
behaviour, not race, gender or creed.
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BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 20, 2012 10:18PM
All Steven Seagal movies are terrible, aren't they?
GAK67 Report This Comment Date: May 20, 2012 10:39PM
I haven't seen all Steven Segal movies, but the sampling I have done would
support your hypothesis, Blah.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 20, 2012 10:49PM
He does appear to kick some asses, too bad his films didn't. It's hard to
compete with Ahhnold.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 20, 2012 11:21PM
Kim, I believe we had a similar conversation some months ago about making
assumptions and categorizing people based on those assumptions. As I recall you
don't like people doing that sort of thing to you either.
jgoins Report This Comment Date: May 21, 2012 10:21AM
We all base feelings on race, some are just better at hiding it than others.
Just because I don't hide mine doesn't mean Odamna was born in America. What
will happen, if it is found he was indeed born in Kenya, after he leaves office?
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 21, 2012 02:31PM
Yep. Everyone has some degree of racial prejudice.
quasi Report This Comment Date: May 21, 2012 02:52PM
One thing that's particularly irritating to me is when someone starts claiming
it's racial prejudice when another person critisizes a person of a different
race for something that has nothing to do with race. In my view, that makes the
person claiming there's racism going on the racist in such an instance, and the
sad thing is that person can't see he's succumbed to a form of racism because he
believes he's acting with noble intentions. This happened to me recently when I
said something critical of the First Lady that had nothing to do with her race.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 21, 2012 03:55PM
Yeah, I've run into that kind of crap too. That shit was pretty bad in the Navy
when I was in. You couldn't say anything critical about some black guys without
them saying that kind of shit. It seemed to me that some of them made a much
bigger deal out of being black than anyone else did.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: May 21, 2012 04:20PM
just tell them that your wife is black when they toss that shit. and then tell
them that you bet they have a problem with that, and watch them walk away
stuttering to themselves.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 21, 2012 04:55PM
I haven't run into that scenario for a long time. There aren't a whole lot of
black folks up here. There's a hell of a lot more Mexicans which is another
brand of fun and games to deal with. They're ok, I just wish they'd at least TRY
to learn English.
quasi Report This Comment Date: May 21, 2012 05:43PM
This happened to me with an elderly white guy, an old friend of the family and
former teacher of mine.
And latinos - south Florida is quite the home away from home for them but I've
never had a problem, though I too wish more would learn English. I really hate
pressing 1 for english, but the state of Florida sure believes in it.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 21, 2012 06:02PM
Same deal in Oregon. Some you have to listen to the message in Spanish anyway
before getting the menu unless you know what menu button to press and bypass all
that crap. It bugged me when I got food stamps and the guy handling the cards
was difficult to understand his English. Another case when I was working for the
schools were bi-lingual teachers who were NOT truly bi-lingual at all and could
barely speak English. Apparently they weren't concerned at all with teaching the
Hispanic kids any English, all their classes were in Spanish. American kids have
to take English, why are they special?
GAK67 Report This Comment Date: May 21, 2012 06:51PM
I have been told that the US doesn't have an official language. Are any of you
able to confirm that?
Here in NZ we have 3 official languages: Maori, English and NZ sign language. We
don't have problems with hispanic people and the Spanish language, but we have a
lot of Chinese immigrants. There was an item in the news recently about business
signs being only in Chinese. Somebody had proposed that signs must also include
a translation into either Maori or English. I must say that I agree with that.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 21, 2012 07:01PM
Yes, that is true Gak. There is no official language at the federal level in
the US. Some states and territories have English as their official language.
pro_junior Report This Comment Date: May 21, 2012 09:56PM
years ago I worked at a custom wood fabrication plant, occasionally they would
bring in a couple temps to help out and invariably they would be mexicanos...I
had a test to see if they really understood english or not, as they always
wanted you to think they did for some reason...
I would ask them a few questions..
do you know how to drive forklift?
oh ya, ya...
do you know how to stack boards?
oh ya, ya...
do you like the way flowers smell in the spring time?
oh ya, ya...
it was really funny when one would answer yes to the flower question and another
one that understood what I really asked would tell them what I said...oh no!no!
me no es hoto!!
jgoins Report This Comment Date: May 22, 2012 12:01PM
What I do at the fleamarket when a group of mexicans come in who pretend not to
speak english is to say "you dropped your wallet.".
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 22, 2012 01:30PM
They also don't realize that some Americans do speak Spanish. My wife started
working at a restaurant years ago and a couple of Mexican guys working there
were commenting about her in Spanish saying things like "check out the new
girl" and shit like that. She turned to them and said in Spanish that she
can understand every word they say.
jgoins Report This Comment Date: May 23, 2012 10:59AM
I have always wished I could learn languages easily and cheaply and become
fluent overnight.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 23, 2012 09:23PM
I actually understand enough Spanish to catch some things but them guys talk so
damn fast I seriously doubt that they really can understand each other
sometimes. My wife is pretty fluent in Spanish and she has the same difficulty.
jgoins Report This Comment Date: May 24, 2012 10:54AM
You are right in their speed and after listening to their conversations I think
you are right about them not understanding each other as well. If they want to
buy something from me and they use english, no matter how broken it is, I will
discount it for them but if they don't even try they only get full price.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 24, 2012 12:08PM
Seems fair to me.
jgoins Report This Comment Date: May 25, 2012 11:50AM
Also I refuse to sell guns to them regardless of price.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 25, 2012 03:10PM
How do you deal with that scenario? Do you just tell them the truth or what?
quasi Report This Comment Date: May 25, 2012 04:53PM
He's the one with the gun, does it really matter how he tells 'em?
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 25, 2012 07:50PM
That is certainly a good point Q, but I was curious about how PC he may go
about it, but since it is the same in English as in Spanish a simple
"No" would probably suffice.
jgoins Report This Comment Date: May 26, 2012 10:05AM
I usually just require them to show me proof of residence in Arkansas in the
form of Arkansas drivers license, which very few of them around here have, and I
double the price. If that doesn't work I just say sorry I can't.
