Mach Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2010 06:58AM

Ron Paul Speaketh...... spread it around the world.

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A Tea Party Foreign Policy
Why the growing grassroots movement can't fight big government at home while supporting it abroad.

As one who is opposed to centralization, I am wary of attempts to turn a grassroots movement against big government like the Tea Party into an adjunct of the Republican Party. I find it even more worrisome when I see those who willingly participated in the most egregious excesses of the most recent Republican Congress push their way into leadership roles of this movement without batting an eye -- or changing their policies!

As many frustrated Americans who have joined the Tea Party realize, we cannot stand against big government at home while supporting it abroad. We cannot talk about fiscal responsibility while spending trillions on occupying and bullying the rest of the world. We cannot talk about the budget deficit and spiraling domestic spending without looking at the costs of maintaining an American empire of more than 700 military bases in more than 120 foreign countries. We cannot pat ourselves on the back for cutting a few thousand dollars from a nature preserve or an inner-city swimming pool at home while turning a blind eye to a Pentagon budget that nearly equals those of the rest of the world combined.

Our foreign policy is based on an illusion: that we are actually paying for it. What we are doing is borrowing and printing money to maintain our presence overseas. Americans are seeing the cost of this irresponsible approach as their own communities crumble and our economic decline continues.

I see tremendous opportunities for movements like the Tea Party to prosper by capitalizing on the Democrats' broken promises to overturn the George W. Bush administration's civil liberties abuses and end the disastrous wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. A return to the traditional U.S. foreign policy of active private engagement but government noninterventionism is the only alternative that can restore our moral and fiscal health. I am optimistic, and our numbers are increasing!

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Misanthrope Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2010 07:02AM

I liked Ron Paul.

Once.

Until that senile old bastard endorsed the Mosque at ground zero.

Fuck him.

Mach Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2010 07:16AM

You don't like him because he knows that whole mosque thing is just a side show to keep you occupied on trivial things butthead?

Like it our not it's true, Fox News talks total bullshit, the mosque guy they bitched about keeping an eye out for owns a huge amount of News Corp. (Fox News). What dumbasses.

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Misanthrope Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2010 07:45AM

Call me any name you want Mach, I don't give a fuck what you think of me and I never will.

Ron Paul's a typical asshole politician, nothing more, just like that blue-gummed nigger in the White House. He'd never get elected President anyway, and this bankrupt nation is virtually dead. Just wait until it starts to fall apart before your eyes.

Go for your guns pal, fuck silly Internet debate with people like me that you will never meet. Look after you and yours - that's what counts. When the shit hits the fan it's going to get goddamned interesting really quick.

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2010 11:02AM

When the shit hits the fan it will be felt around the world, not just in this country. December 21, 2012 might just be an interesting date to watch for.

fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2010 09:31PM

shouldn't it be "foreign Tea party Policy"?

Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: August 29, 2010 12:17AM

I think RP shot himself in the foot with his comments about the mosque. Plain and simple everyone knows they have the right to build it, just a pretty small bunch think it "is" right to do it.

Still and all, I like RP's platform and stance on issues in general and really, is anyone gonna agree 100% with ANY candidate? The truth still remains he's got about a snowballs chance in hell of gettin elected so it's all kinda moot anyway.

At this point stashes of food stuffs, water, guns and ammo are plusses .... as really they always are

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: August 29, 2010 10:48AM

Unless you can stash enough food for a year or more then it won't help much if the shit hits the fan in the way it could. If the economy goes bankrupt and the government totally dissolves then it will take much longer then a year to bring some kind of order and get production back on it's feet. The violence which will erupt from it will be very costly to many people not just in this country but around the world. If the economy goes bankrupt then money will only be good for toilet paper and not too good for that either. When the economy goes bust then there will only be 2 ways for people to survive, barter or stealing or both. Guns will be the mainstay of survival both for protection and for hunting when there will be no food left in the stores and no money to buy it with.

Barbarian Report This Comment
Date: August 30, 2010 01:31AM

I own my own land, I know how to raise and preserve food, and I know how to hunt. I won"t have any problem. If I run out of four-legged fauna, I'll even hunt two legged critters if I have to. I'll just serve it up to my brethren as "long pig".

Mach Report This Comment
Date: August 30, 2010 06:12AM

Barbarian, you and Misanthrope seem to live on the same land, I wouldn't hunt him if I were you though, he doesn't wipe his ass very well and I'm sure he's just all skin and bones anyway.

I bet it gets real cold up there in the Northeast.

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Date: August 28, 2010 07:45AM

Re: Image comments for A Tea Party Foreign Policy
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Date: February 08, 2010 08:36AM

What a bitch.

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: August 30, 2010 12:08PM

I know how to hunt and fish so I will survive but I will never resort to eating humans, unless there is absolutely nothing else left to eat maybe not even then.

Mach Report This Comment
Date: August 31, 2010 12:29AM

Oh come on jgoin, I'm sure it tastes just like chicken.

By the way, you gotta have guns to hunt with, don't let any "safety" people take them from you.

Here's a side note....

Gene Simmons (KISS) is alright in my book.

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jgoins Report This Comment
Date: August 31, 2010 11:35AM

I don't have any guns right now but I do carry a knife with which I can get a gun if push comes to shove.

Mach Report This Comment
Date: September 02, 2010 05:59AM

Mrkim Wrote:
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> I think RP shot himself in the foot with his
> comments about the mosque. Plain and simple
> everyone knows they have the right to build it,
> just a pretty small bunch think it "is" right to
> do it.

Alright Mrkim don't get pissed.

Here's some of mosque info, I don't understand why you guys let the MSM get you so worked up, it is just to get you riled up so you don't complain about all of the money that is being made by the military corporation.

It's not a mosque! That is total bullshit you're being fed. Just like it says in this article, they even have places in the Pentagon for Muslims to pray, etc...etc...etc....

[www.veteranstoday.com]



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jgoins Report This Comment
Date: September 02, 2010 10:08AM

Personally I don't give a damn what they put on ground zero. What I do care about is the fact that radical Muslims are at war with all who are not Muslim with us heading the list. I don't care how much money the military gets good for them they deserve it. We need our military, the world is not ready to sing Kumbayah yet.

What makes anyone think the American people can't think about more than one issue at a time. It doesn't take much effort to care about many issues at once and the vast majority of humans can do it and do all the time. It is only the news media who cannot show more than one issue at once which is what might be confusing you about the people.

fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: September 02, 2010 12:59PM

i asked a liberal dickweed friend of mine he other day what did islam do throughout history when they conquered/defeated/etc an enemy. he didn't know.
answer: they built a mosque where a church had been torn down/burned to the ground/etc...coincidence? i don't fucking think so!

Mach Report This Comment
Date: September 02, 2010 07:56PM

Good thing this crap was stirred up right as 9/11 was approaching, otherwise, you guys wouldn't have nothing to "Allahu Akbar" about, it's not a damn mosque, it's a community center...... you guys get sucked into the MSM propaganda with fervor!

It's funny how "you" get so worked up over this crap but when another side continuously undermines the American way outright you are in full support of it.

fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: September 02, 2010 09:53PM

so if it's not a mosque, why does Rauf call it one?
don't hurt yourself thinking of an answer. lmfao

fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: September 02, 2010 10:18PM

also if it's a community center, it would cater to all religions, not just Islam......right?

Mach Report This Comment
Date: September 03, 2010 01:36AM

fossil, you are prejudice, a downright hate-monger.

Maybe you should be against all of the Synagogues in New York too.

fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: September 03, 2010 02:18AM

i am anti-religion.,,period

Mach Report This Comment
Date: September 03, 2010 06:25AM

You're no fun fossil, I try to talk some shit and get you started and you just give me a damn simple answer, quit following the MSM, it is just spoon fed propaganda, the MSM and other corporations are so embedded, there is no such thing as unbiasedness, they do nothing but get you afraid, riled up and downright pissed, they do nothing but try to control your life on a daily basis.

'The poet Charles Peguy said, "Everything begins in faith and ends in politics."'

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Here, I'm sure you'll want to donate to this cause.... yes, it's real.

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Here's an EDIT, while you're fucking here, read this...

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Another EDIT.... it seems the whole thing ZBig gave away in his book long ago was true, they just want Eurasia, whoever controls that, controls the world.

Zbigniew Brzezinski

The Grand Chessboard


"Ever since the continents started interacting politically, some five hundred years ago, Eurasia has been the center of world power."- (p. xiii)

"It is imperative that no Eurasian challenger emerges capable of dominating Eurasia and thus of also challenging America. The formulation of a comprehensive and integrated Eurasian geostrategy is therefore the purpose of this book.” (p. xiv)

"How America 'manages' Eurasia is critical. A power that dominates Eurasia would control two of the world's three most advanced and economically productive regions. A mere glance at the map also suggests that control over Eurasia would almost automatically entail Africa's subordination, rendering the Western Hemisphere and Oceania geopolitically peripheral to the world's central continent. About 75 per cent of the world's people live in Eurasia, and most of the world's physical wealth is there as well, both in its enterprises and underneath its soil. Eurasia accounts for about three-fourths of the world's known energy resources." (p.31)

“Never before has a populist democracy attained international supremacy. But the pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public's sense of domestic well-being. The economic self-denial (that is, defense spending) and the human sacrifice (casualties, even among professional soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial to democratic instincts. Democracy is inimical to imperial mobilization." (p.35)

“The momentum of Asia's economic development is already generating massive pressures for the exploration and exploitation of new sources of energy and the Central Asian region and the Caspian Sea basin are known to contain reserves of natural gas and oil that dwarf those of Kuwait, the Gulf of Mexico, or the North Sea." (p.125)

"In the long run, global politics are bound to become increasingly uncongenial to the concentration of hegemonic power in the hands of a single state. Hence, America is not only the first, as well as the only, truly global superpower, but it is also likely to be the very last." (p.209)

inside job
"Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multi-cultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat." (p. 211)

Oh yeah and.......................................................................



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Mach Report This Comment
Date: September 03, 2010 07:14AM

"Damn, that Mach guy is a freaking genius, I'm sure everyone would totally agree with this one too! It's a good MSM lesson for beginners!"
- anonymous

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Flying the Flag, Faking the News

by John Pilger


Edward Bernays, the American nephew of Sigmund Freud, is said to have invented modern propaganda. During the first world war, he was one of a group of influential liberals who mounted a secret government campaign to persuade reluctant Americans to send an army to the bloodbath in Europe. In his book, Propaganda, published in 1928, Bernays wrote that the "intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses was an important element in democratic society" and that the manipulators "constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power in our country." Instead of propaganda, he coined the euphemism "public relations."

The American tobacco industry hired Bernays to convince women they should smoke in public. By associating smoking with women’s liberation, he made cigarettes "torches of freedom." In 1954, he conjured a communist menace in Guatemala as an excuse for overthrowing the democratically-elected government, whose social reforms were threatening the United Fruit company’s monopoly of the banana trade. He called it a "liberation."

Bernays was no rabid right-winger. He was an elitist liberal who believed that "engineering public consent" was for the greater good. This was achieved by the creation of "false realities" which then became "news events." Here are examples of how it is done these days:

False reality - The last US combat troops have left Iraq "as promised, on schedule," according to President Barack Obama. TV screens have filled with cinematic images of the "last US soldiers" silhouetted against the dawn light, crossing the border into Kuwait.

Fact - They are still there. At least 50,000 troops will continue to operate from 94 bases. American air assaults are unchanged, as are special forces’ assassinations. The number of "military contractors" is currently 100,000 and rising. Most Iraqi oil is now under direct foreign control.

False - reality BBC presenters and reporters have described the departing US troops as a "sort of victorious army" that has achieved "a remarkable change in [Iraq’s] fortunes." Their commander, General David Petraeus, is a "celebrity," "charming," "savvy" and "remarkable."

Fact - There is no victory of any sort. There is a catastrophic disaster; and attempts to present it as otherwise are a model of Bernays’ campaign to "re-brand" the slaughter of the first world war as "necessary" and "noble." In 1980, Ronald Reagan, running for president, re-branded the invasion of Vietnam, in which up to three million people died, as a "noble cause," a theme taken up enthusiastically by Hollywood. Today’s Iraq war movies have a similar purging theme: the invader as both idealist and victim.

False - reality It is not known how many Iraqis have died. They are "countless" or maybe "in the tens of thousands."

Fact - As a direct consequence of the Anglo-American led invasion, a million Iraqis have died. This figure from Opinion Research Business is based on peer-reviewed research led by Johns Hopkins University in Washington DC, whose methods were secretly affirmed as "best practice" and "robust" by the Blair government’s chief scientific adviser, as revealed in a Freedom of Information search. This figure is rarely reported or presented to "charming" and "savvy" American generals. Neither is the dispossession of four million Iraqis, the malnourishment of most Iraqi children, the epidemic of mental illness and the poisoning of the environment.

False - reality The British economy has a deficit of billions which must be reduced with cuts in public services and regressive taxation, in a spirit of "we’re all in this together."

Fact - We are not in this together. What is remarkable about this public relations triumph is that only 18 months ago the diametric opposite filled TV screens and front pages. Then, in a state of shock, truth was unavoidable, if briefly. The Wall Street and City of London financiers’ trough was on full view for the first time, along with the venality of once celebrated snouts. Billions in public money went to inept and crooked organizations known as banks, which were spared debt liability by their Labour government sponsors.

Within a year, record profits and personal bonuses were posted, and state and media propaganda had recovered its equilibrium. Suddenly, the "black hole" was no longer the responsibility of the banks, whose debt is to be paid by those not in any way responsible: the public. The received media wisdom of this "necessity" is now a chorus, from the BBC to the Sun. A masterstroke, Bernays would surely say.

False - reality The former government minister Ed Miliband offers a "genuine alternative" as leader of the British Labour Party.

Fact - Miliband, like his brother David, the former foreign secretary, and almost all those standing for the Labour leadership, is immersed in the effluent of New Labour. As a New Labour MP and minister, he did not refuse to serve under Blair or speak out against Labour’s persistent warmongering. He now calls the invasion of Iraq a "profound mistake." Calling it a mistake insults the memory and the dead. It was a crime, of which the evidence is voluminous. He has nothing new to say about the other colonial wars, none of them mistakes. Neither has he demanded basic social justice: that those who caused the recession clear up the mess and that Britain’s fabulously rich corporate minority be seriously taxed, starting with Rupert Murdoch.

Of course, the good news is that false realities often fail when the public trusts its own critical intelligence, not the media. Two classified documents recently released by WikiLeaks express the CIA’s concern that the populations of European countries, which oppose their governments’ war policies, are not succumbing to the usual propaganda spun through the media. For the rulers of the world, this is a conundrum, because their unaccountable power rests on the false reality that no popular resistance works. And it does.

September 3, 2010

fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: September 03, 2010 12:57PM

all that shit and i'm the one who listens to the media?

Mach Report This Comment
Date: September 03, 2010 06:59PM

Listens to the media? Way to talk shit fossil, you seemed to leave out the MS, MAIN STREAM media, that's what you were brought up on so that's what you're trained to follow.

Here's some good MSM. Jerry Lewis makes my day, common sense and FUCK! political correctness.

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fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: September 03, 2010 07:58PM

historical facts are trumped by an internet cpnspiracy theory? uh......o.k.

fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: September 03, 2010 08:01PM

you really should get off the big dog porch.



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jgoins Report This Comment
Date: September 04, 2010 11:20AM

conspiracy theories are popular because people who believe them don't have to prove they are true and the people who believe them have no critical thinking process.

Mach Report This Comment
Date: September 04, 2010 10:57PM

1. Fuck You.

2. Fuck You.

fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: September 04, 2010 11:06PM

whoop that lil feller out....i dare ya.

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: September 05, 2010 10:50AM

If you did you would never go back to goats.