jgoins Report This Comment
Date: August 19, 2009 11:02AM

He is no longer in office. Why don't you talk about the idiot in office now.

SkullandChains Report This Comment
Date: August 19, 2009 02:46PM

No shit man.

maddie Report This Comment
Date: August 19, 2009 04:33PM

Probally because as much as you would like to forget him, he will go down in history as the MORON who Broke America. Just like all the other business this HOMO ran into the dirt ,before his dad bailed him out.
Google it GENIUS.......


maddie

Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: August 19, 2009 07:20PM

From the looks of things in just 8 months in office the grand puppetmaster will far surpass anything any American pres has done in bringing this country to it's knees. With the biggest bailout ever made in history literally shoved through congress, without even being read by most who voted on it since it was too important that the people much less the legislators who voted it actually knew what they were agreein to, it had to be done RIGHT FUCKIN NOW! so he could get all those illegal and shady supporters debts off his back. There was enough pork in it to fund several small countries, though he SWORE he'd NEVER support such things while in office. And now he's attempting to shove another multitrillion $$ program down our throats with his health care bull shit. Never mind that the American majority stands in opposition to this program, that seems to be obviously irrelevant from the Big Os perspective, I mean, how dare the American people oppose his game plan!

Then, after that he wants to take up the Amnesty For Illegals crap again so he can continue to give away whatever's left in the kitty to the fuckin illegals, but wait ... the kitty was dry before he even started handing out the billions he has done since in office .... Hmmm, financial wizardry at his finest, that's for sure!.

Even funnier is he's doin all of this with his approval rating steadily slidin down hill while congresses approval rating is at an all time low. Yeah buddy, now there's a sure fire winner hand!

Yep, sounds like the new kid on the block really has it all under control and all goin right on schedule .... for the total destruction of what's left of the US

maddie Report This Comment
Date: August 19, 2009 07:26PM

Cute little icon. Just like a leedle gurl.

Obama is investing in America, and yes we all know it may or not work. Whats for sure is its expensive.

America, its worth the investment.


Bush is a punk who was busy doing what? Obama is running a war and Domestic issues


Hope.....is all we got. Enjoy your hate.

maddie Report This Comment
Date: August 19, 2009 07:35PM

P.s

There is a alot of illegals here. And there all working on everything. Take your ass down to the jobsite and ask why they keep hiring them. I'll tell you why, cause they work and they will work circles around your ass. I dont care wether you agree or not. ITS HAPPENING NOW. WE all see it

Whats your solution? to round up your posse and grab some guns and demand jobs.
hahahahahahah. thats the only way you'll get anything. Just like when your ancestorters landed here.they took it by the point of a gun

Your a putz...


p.s i am only half mexican and i tell you it aint the hard working one.

Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: August 19, 2009 07:58PM

Madie/madnez, or whoever else you are goin by today .... I got a $100 bill says you're so full of shit your eyes are even brown. 'Course there's no need to waste a good Benjamin, anyone readin your shit can tell that anyway

Wolfgang613 Report This Comment
Date: August 19, 2009 11:41PM

OK, Mrkim we all know you hate President Obama. You don't need to turn every thread into an I hate President Obama thread. We get it.

pro_junior Report This Comment
Date: August 20, 2009 01:00AM

also I would be interested in knowing what led you to believe that "the American majority stands in opposition to this program"
I personally do not know anybody that is opposed to it...the only opposition I have seen is from blathering idiots grandstanding for their local tv news at town hall meetings...
I currently have health insurance provided in part my employer, I pay a large portion of the premium as well as 25% of every medical cost I incur and there is also a sizable deductible...when I need to go to the doctor I generally have to wait about two weeks for an appointment...when I go to my doctor he will invariably send me to see a different doctor, so now I get two bills instead of one...I could go on but I'm sure you will miss my point here...that point being that the current health care system sucks. if it aint broke don't fix it right? it is broken and needs to be fixed.

next time your house is on fire don't call the fire department, call a private company to come put it out.

Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: August 20, 2009 02:45AM

To be totally honest, I don't hate Obama, I just see his as a total failure as a president and will continue to make my opinion known when I feel like it.

I think if anyone were to look back on here they'd find plenty of bashing regarding the previous administration, so what really is the point wolfie? Is it just that you don't like bein reminded of your heros failings? If that's the case I'd suggest you simply avoid any polotically motivated pics in the future as there's at least more than 3yrs left of his reign left and assuredly lots of new material for folks like myself to disagree with.

PJ, what the libs have managed to do is vilify people for wanting to speak out against the proposed HC issue. In point of fact I personally don't agree with attempting to discuss any issue when one side is overwhelming the other verbally but quite honestly all that's goin on is that people in opposition to the HC BS have taken several pages from the liberal play book and adapted them to this cause. This amounts to the pot callin the kettle black when the libs are now upset at someone borrowing their own tactics. A serious case of redirection is what it seems like to me as the libs now want to focus on the fact that the opposition is being vocal instead of the other way around, but still doesn't want to really address the issues.

There are definite issues that need to be addressed in regard to health care and that CAN be addressed without the fed trying to take it over and mandate doctors pay, scheduling, what services will and will not be allowed. With our governments mishandling of everything they touch I can not envision how they could do anything but generate another massively overcomplicated and rediculously complex system of BS that won't really work anyway, and certainly not better than what's out there now, just more bloated and even more costly. And .... if you think the 1.2 trillion $$ figure that's being bandied about (almost as if this is some trivial figure!) is anywhere near what the cost will actually wind up bein for this grandiose pile of paperwork and administration required just to get this done and working then you're far more gullible than I had thought.

Here's a prediction I have that's just for fun but let's all watch and see how it plays out, Ok? I predict that when the HC bill gets close to a vote in congress there will be some incident/happening on a national or international scale that will be manipulated into something much larger than reality will dictate to attempt to sideline the debate in hopes of pushing the legislation through.

I have a nice crisp $50 bill that says I'm right. Any of you libs wanna take that bet

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: August 20, 2009 11:14AM

Bush may have made mistakes but Odamna makes Bush look like a choir boy.

hmmmmmm Report This Comment
Date: August 21, 2009 09:22PM

Bush started with how much money in the budget? How much did Obama start with?

Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: August 21, 2009 11:27PM

Let's say just as a set of hypothetical figures the previous administration had $200 and the current one started with $20. The problem is that when you only have $20 and you turn around and spend $200 that you don't have, things start happening that wouldn't have to happen if you had stayed within your budget of the $20 you actually had. If you or I ran our personal or business finances in such a manner we'd be faced with a whole different set of issues, some of which could even be criminal proceedings.

However, when the government does it they just borrow to cover the short falls from fiduciaries or other governments at interest or raise taxes, or do both. None of this is beneficial to the economy and even less so when the economy is already in trouble 'cause the hole just gets deeper.

What happens when we write hot checks and then write more hot checks to try and cover the ones we already have out? Eventually it all catches up to us because we can't raise taxes to cover our shortfalls and increased borrowing really only makes the whole situation worse, which of course is where the economy is today.

Here's another point that's been buried/glossed over or whatever type spin you want to put on it, but here goes. If you really do the research and a bit of due diligence in what led to the financial crisis/crash that then led to the bailout crap you'll find the roots of the problem extend as far back as the Carter administration when a position of that "failed" presidency was to "encourage" fiduciaries to make home loans to people with lower credit ratings than they would typically have been considered acceptable credit risks. This led to a certain increased percentage of defaulted mortgages as is typical with higher risk loans.

At the time the fallout was minimal and things rocked along this way for a while but, when Clinton took office the program was extended ("Every American deserves a home!", uh yeah, so long as they can actually afford to own one)) and legal action even took place to FORCE more lenders to accept a higher percentage of these high risk loans, though now housing rates had risen at a rate higher than the rate of salaries or typical soft and hard goods sales which led to even more high risk loans being made as the borrowers were now in an even less positive position to repay these loans than they had been previously. However, the government was still FORCING lenders to make these questionable (at best) home loans, and it was all cool since the fed was agreeing to back them.

Ok, so then along comes the last administration and these same high risk loans are still being made, which has to at some point become a problem, and it did indeed.

9-11 hit, the federal budgets "surplus" (which was never an actual surplus in reality anyway, but that's another issue altogether) took a major hit with all the 9-11 aftermath, then the wars in Afganistan and Iraq were undertaken, consumer prices, including home values continued to rise and all of a sudden a lot of the homes sold on these high risk loans began to go into default which really wreaked havoc on the banking industry.

However, a bit more research will also reveal that during the past administration there were concerns voiced by leading economists. the president and members of congress. As a matter of fact John McCain even submitted a bill to attempt to curtail some of the high risk loans as a fear of an economic collapse was predicted, but guess what .... the liberals in congress rose up to defeat the measure and claimed that cruel ol John McCain was just tryin to deny Americans the American Dream by attempting to cut funding for these loans.

One other very interesting fact you'll find if you dig deeply enough was that Barack Hussein Obama even served as an attorney who filed suit against some of the lenders who were trying to be realistic about these government backed high risk home loan programs to force them to comply and make more high risk loans than they honestly wanted to agree to. This of course eventually led to even more defaulted mortgages, and deepening the overall collapse in the long run.

There's tons more to this story if one really wants to do the homework but the common theme you'll find is that conservatives were predicting what eventually happened and measures were undertaken to try and at least minimize the effect but these efforts were decried, minimized and eventually defeated, and certainly not by the conservatives.

The same folks that were in the background making all this happen (and the Federal Reserve, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac also played huge parts in all this) were doing so for profit and were at the same time talking out the other side of their heads as they claimed it was all for the public good (which it obviously wasn't). And ... those same players have done a marvelous job of downplaying their role in the eventual economic collapse and now just use "the previous administration" as their convenient scape goat.

So, best to do some research before just parroting what the liberals are tellin ya, or .... be just like them and keep tryin to lay blame where it dudn really belong, it's up to you. Just know if you choose to continue to deride the previous administration that A. It's of no real benefit in solving the problem, which leaves me askin "So what really was your point again?", and B. The real truth is much more involved and complicated than what's being bandied about and called "the truth" by the current administration





Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 22/08/2009 05:02AM by Mrkim.

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: August 22, 2009 11:01AM

Very good post Mr. Kim but I am afraid it is lost on the liberal crowd here.