quasi
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Date: February 05, 2009 11:33AM
I was expecting to see a label that says, "Made in China."
jgoins
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Date: February 05, 2009 11:46AM
Well the pic wasn't taken of the corner.
90130_
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Date: February 05, 2009 02:01PM
Generations of proud Americans fought and died for that flag in far flung corners of the globe, only to have a bunch of fucking hippies and complacent idiots piss all over it.
GAK67
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Date: February 05, 2009 04:00PM
90130, what? That flag? That new, made in china, piece of nylon cloth? Those soldiers did not die for a flag! It really irks me when people say that. Those proud Americans may have fought and died for their country, for freedom, for their friends and family, for security, for their way of life, for your way of life, for a multitude of other reasons, but if they did it for a flag, they should have just gone home then gone down to the local store and bought one instead.
I'm glad you appreciate the sacrifice others have made, but give them the due they deserve.
And as for the hippies and complacent idiots, I thought one of the things that flag stood for was freedom of speech?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/02/2009 04:03PM by GAK67.
90130_
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Date: February 05, 2009 06:02PM
I served, GAK. I'm one of those soldiers.
ToucanSam
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Date: February 05, 2009 09:49PM
The Earth is not flat, therefore has no
corners
I see your old way of intolerant thinking... Way to go. A fine representative of your country and the human race.
fossil_digger
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Date: February 06, 2009 12:32AM
and i've sen your "just look the other way and it'll go away",or just run away period attitude.
even your liberal president/saviour is going to send in more troops. seems a bit strange for some asshole that ran on a retreat election platform dont'cha think?
fossil_digger
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Date: February 06, 2009 12:34AM
there's a sucker born every minute.
90130_
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Date: February 06, 2009 02:34AM
Tell that to a Vietnam veteran's face Toucan.
Or any Marine pilot, Navy sailor, or Army infantryman who fought in WW2 or Korea.
And GAK;
I suppose you should ask any member of the 2nd New Zealand Expeditionary force, or an Aussie "Digger" how they feel about their country's flag.
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90130_
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Date: February 06, 2009 02:49AM
BTW, the regulation sized flag that flies over my balcony was made by Annin & Co., right here in the USA.
[
www.ushistory.org]
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GAK67
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Date: February 06, 2009 06:19AM
My Uncle retired from the NZ Army as a Colonel, after being the youngest Major they had ever had up to that point (I believe the record has been broken since), so I will ask him next time I see him, 90130. But if he, or anybody else who served, tells me they fought/served for the flag I'll tell them the same thing I told you (although probably more politely) and get them to consider what they believe the flag represents that they really fought/served for.
I do not, and would not, question their patriotism, or bravery, just their choice of words to describe what they fought/served for.
90130_
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Date: February 06, 2009 07:03AM
Try again, Fossil. Link doesn't work.
90130_
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Date: February 06, 2009 07:12AM
GAK, would the Japanese "rising sun" flag flying over NZ and Australia have been acceptable to your uncle?
I'll bet he'll turn a reddish hue and you'd best be looking for cover.
GAK67
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Date: February 06, 2009 08:13AM
90130, you are completely misunderstanding my point, and honestly it's starting to piss me off!
I am proud of my country (and I am sure my Uncle is too), and part of that is it's history, including it's independence, so no, the Japanese flag would not be acceptable to me. What I can't understand is how you cannot see that what the flag represents is so much more important than the flag itself!
IF (and yes it is in upper-case deliberately) the NZ flag was to change to something more contemporary it would not change my feelings towards my country and I would feel the same pride for my country seeing the new flag flying as i currently experience when I see the current one!
jgoins
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Date: February 06, 2009 12:38PM
The flag is a symbol which encompasses all the good aspects of a country and it really doesn't matter where it was made, but I think the original post was meant to imply that china is buying America's honor and dignity in this day and age. Not only are they buying America but they are also poisoning us as well.
90130_
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Date: February 06, 2009 04:28PM
Point made and understood GAK, so let's just leave it at that. Have a beer, you'll feel better.
Fossil just started a poll or forum or something about this very issue. Let's join in the fun!
fossil_digger
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Date: February 06, 2009 04:37PM
the iwo link still works for me nine-0.
90130_
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Date: February 06, 2009 04:38PM
BTW, if it were me in this video, I would not have shown as much constraint. [
www.youtube.com]
90130_
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Date: February 06, 2009 05:15PM
Ah, thanks for the link, Fossil. Didn't work last night for some reason.
An iconic picture. The raising of the flag by Marines over Iwo Jima.
jgoins
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Date: February 07, 2009 12:13PM
Niner, I would have done worse as well and probably gone to jail as well. I wonder if that bar has done anything about the issue after that happened?
fossil_digger
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Date: February 07, 2009 05:28PM
i wouldn't be surprised if the community didn't burn it to the ground.
90130_
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Date: February 07, 2009 06:04PM
Believe it or not, the Washoe County DA was actually considering charges against this man for damaging private property.
[
www.youtube.com]
He's a national hero in my book.
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woberto
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Date: February 08, 2009 12:53AM
Ah crap, not this argument again!
I didn't look at this thread earlier because from the angle the photo was taken and the small thumbnail size, I thought it was the Cuban flag...
jgoins
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Date: February 08, 2009 12:00PM
China is buying this country and the Mexicans are working it. America for Americans.
