I agree that the hard line radical assholes will not change but I do not agree that just because they are assholes that justifies me being an asshole in return. We don't have to stoop down to their level. I am not talking about trying to change them at all. I am not praying for their salvation. I am not talking about forgiving them. I am talking about the OTHER people who are deserving of hope and help. I am talking about not lumping all the people in the mid-east into one group. I think I have made that pretty clear time and again but some of you seem to ignore that. Maybe you don't ignore it but what you say here sure makes it appear so to me.

I don't even expect you to agree with me, just to listen and consider what I have to say without summarily dismissing it. I believe progress in the world is possible but not if we keep thinking the same old shit that doesn't work. If we give up on everyone over there and just hate em all that does no good at all.