got no chance understanding that i'm afraid mr kim. if you were really smart you'd be able to write it in lay terms a lesser mind like my own could understand. i don't feel there is any justification for inflicting needless suffering on another animal for sport and self-gratification, that's all. many people obviously do enjoy it but i can't see how they can be insensitive to the animal's suffering (hence terming them neanderthals). i shouldn't have bunched in the hunter-gatherers with these SportsMen though; that was a bit caffeinated.