my opinions? uh.....okay, i think you're obsessed with playing devils advocate.

He's also argues his point on here against the throngs of people, so you could say he is a mass debater too!

FISH ON!!!!

Don't really want to get this argument going again, but have to qualify an earlier comment about it not being illegal to burn the NZ flag. The following quote is taken from Wikipedia, but I have confirmed the parliamentary act that is mentioned.

In New Zealand, under the Flags, Emblems and Names Protection Act 1981 it is illegal to destroy the New Zealand flag with the intent of dishonouring it.

In 2003, a Workers Party of New Zealand member Paul Hopkinson, a Wellington schoolteacher, burned the Flag of New Zealand as part of a protest in Parliament grounds at the New Zealand Government’s hosting of the Prime Minister of Australia, against the background of Australia’s support of the United States in its war in Iraq. Hopkinson was initially convicted of destroying a New Zealand flag with intent to dishonor it, but appealed against his conviction.

On appeal, his conviction was overturned on the grounds that the law had to be read consistently with the right to freedom of expression under the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990. This meant that his actions were not unlawful because they were done in the context of a protest; however, outside of a protest, the same actions would still have been illegal. This somewhat unusual result was due in part to the fact that the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act does not overrule other laws. Hopkinson was the first person charged under the Flags, Emblems and Names Protection Act. Shortly after his successful appeal, Hopkinson again burned a New Zealand flag and was arrested once more, this time for disorderly conduct. This subsequent charge was later dropped following legal advice that, because of the appeal court's decision, Hopkinson's action would again have been justifiable as a form of free expression or free speech.

Apparently the penalty for destroying the NZ flag with the intention of dishonouring it is a fine of up to $5,000. Doesn't seem even close enough to adequate, either as a deterrent, or as punishment, imho.

My favourite Robin quote was "Holy whiskers Batman, that was a close shave!"

"Apparently the penalty for destroying the NZ flag with the intention of ("dishonouring" it is a fine of up to $5,000. Doesn't seem even close enough to adequate, either as a deterrent, or as punishment, imho."

so it does piss you off?
"Doesn't seem close enough to adequate"?
what is an adequate monetary fine for something that doesn't mean anything to you??
what changed your mind?
pepsi?

fossil, here are some quotes of mine from recent posts on this thread and the thread following the pic you posted titled "my desktop of the week".

so while I would be saddened and disappointed
So because somebody is doing something I don't like, but which isn't illegal, I should break the law and assault them?
I am proud of my country
I would feel the same pride for my country seeing the new flag flying as i currently experience when I see the current one!

So my question is, where did you get the notion that it would mean nothing to me?

I haven't changed my mind.

Pepsi!

whatever

you can't whatever a thread you started when it's on topic, that's against the rules of internetting.

whaaaaaaaaaaaatthefuckever.

What? There's rules?

After reading this i think ill head to the bar now!



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I burn a U.S. flag every year. I cut it up into little strips and burn it. TheBoy Scouts help me do it.

your address has been forwarded to every inactive/retired or active member of the military.

I like mine with ranch dressing

if you were to witness someone burning or otherwise destroying a flag of your country, what would you do?
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Beat their ass if they didn't leave me a piece to burn !

I don't believe you would beast

I dont either..lol