I just fell asleep reading kim's paragraphs,jeez man why not go for it all and write a book!

Well wake your ass up !! I just made a fresh pot of coffee, want some ..... buahahahahaha

Ben said :
Republicans proposed dozens of changes to the health care bill despite the fact that none of them supported it in any way. And then all the Republicans voted against it.

While Democrats put forth reasoned arguments for national health care, Republicans focused on medical horror stories from Canada and Europe. In the end, the bill passed.

I'm not saying the Democrats' or the GOP's actions are good or bad. I'm just stating some facts.

Though it's true some of the conservatives ideas were eventually added to the bill (by democrats in the last week before the final vote in the House in an effort to attempt to get repubs to vote for it and ... so that after they added these measures they could then again point to the repubs as obstructionists if they din't support it after their suggestions were added) the overall legislation was still viewed overall as unconstitutional, intrusive upon individual freedoms and socialistic in nature. These are the reasons the Repubs voted against it, which BTW is also what their constituents asked them to do.

To believe otherwise only shows you either agree with the ideas and tactics behind the democrat sponsored bill or else you problee get all your info from the extremely left leaning mainstream media and hence don't truly understand all the parameters of the overall issue since they never truly gave all the facts about it all, only the parts that made it look appealing. Had the mainstream media been comprehensive in their discussions and explanations regarding this piece of legislation (as in actually REPORTING instead of MAKING UP the news!) it's likely it would have had even less public support than it did

Actually MRS KIM

the American public supported the bill that passed.

just because you are willing to entertain pollsters who are paid by DC GOP lobbyists is YOUR FAULT

the funny part is even the polls paid for by DC GOP lobbyists say that the American people supported the bill

I'm not surprised that someone with your limited education and experience doesn't know this

85% of the bill that was signed was written by REPUBLICANS back in the mid 90s. even the individual mandate was written by a republican. That's why Bob "viagra" Dole supported the current bill

Really?

Yes.

Just because the media has a half life of 3 years doesn't mean that those of us who have been in DC our entire lives don't know the truth

Bob Dole wrote most of the bill

Since you and the other nitwits haven't figured it out yet

All legislation being written by democrats is starting with GOP proposals of the past such that Republicans only have themselves to blame

MRS KIM


Republicans will fuck up their own Republicare program that just passed as they have with every other govt program and agency

well ... except the DoD which is a massive corporate welfare program to former military leaders

ORLANDO

MRS KIM's posts are 100% crap. That is the best reason for not reading them.

His expertise on any subject can be contained in a thimble.

ShockACon


Why do Republicans keep claiming that the US can't afford to save $180 billion?


LOL!


Because Republicans can't steer the money to their cronies and campaign donors

I would cut 200 billion from the DoD budget per year to cover the bill

American is on full pussy alert right now

so much for CONS being tough. They are the ones wearing the skirts

MRS KIM


Republicans who were polled all responded with Get your Fucking hands off my Govt run Medicare

So much for individual responsibility

Beast, you have your facts wrong, only 10% of the American public supports this bill. I can make up facts just as good as you can if I don't have to provide proof. All this is moot anyway because on Dec. 21 2012 aliens are coming to return us all to our home planet.



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As far as a healthcare bill polls: According to Gallup 45% Approve, 48% Disapprove, and 7% No opinion with + or- 4% error rate. Pollster.com lists 40.2% in Favor and 51.6% Oppose, however after a description of the bill was given the poll changed to 51% to 56% in Favor and 38% to 43% Opposed. So, please read the articals at you leisure they have more detailed information.

this only stat that counts is mine....it blows!

Wolfie I do hope you know the Gallup poll you posted was taken before the bill was passed and the Pollster poll you linked to was from last July, right? I'd suggest you have a look at a minimum of 4 current polls and then average them to get a more reasonable view of current public opinion





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Rasmussen Reports here Very interesting it breaks it down.

Yes Mrkim I did see that the polls both took place before the bill was passed. I couldn't find any that took place afterward. I guess the short attention span of the public is to blame. As for the Pollster.com poll, the top part is from July 09 and the bottom part is more recent. Check the dates listed in the graphic.

Hers's a breakout of many different polls, recent as well as over time. A quick or thorough perusal of these numbers will affirm that ot seems more people are against the HC bill than are for it. [www.realclearpolitics.com]

Polls are worthless,just matters who's doing them.I can go out and find twenty african americans who dont have a clue what the health care reform bill is but if they here that it was obama's plan they will say they support it...soooooo fuck all these b.s. polls,they are meaningless.

Polls mean very little since they can be made to say anything. All they have to do is phrase the question differently and get different results. I run into many people every day and I have yet to find anyone who likes the health care bill or the way it was brought about.

check those poll numbers today wolfie

I can't believe I just read this whole thread and actually learned something.

Not to spend time reading things here?

Most likely.

bump.

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