Mrkim Report This Comment Date: December 18, 2008 11:41AM
"Curioser and curiouser" - Lewis Carrol
What will those wacky Christians think of next
GAK67 Report This Comment Date: December 18, 2008 05:25PM
I'm sure Lewis Carroll would have spelt Curiuoser the same both times he used
it MrKim!
This is not Christianity, this is organised religion and egotism. If he was
islamic we would call him a fanatic and governments around the world would have
files on him.
Christ turned water into wine at a wedding, does anyone really think that after
doing that he discouraged people from dancing at the same celebration?
I truly hope that this post is a joke, because if there are people out there who
believe that drivel enough to think they should advertise it, then that is
scary!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 18/12/2008 05:26PM by GAK67.
ORLANDO399 Report This Comment Date: December 18, 2008 05:43PM
Feel the same way gak but unfortunately this isnt a joke ;(
Wolfgang613 Report This Comment Date: December 18, 2008 06:20PM
Aren't they forgetting that David Danced before the Lord and was not dammed to
hell for it. 2 Samuel 6:14
pulse Report This Comment Date: December 18, 2008 08:34PM
I don't think it's the dancing that sends you to hell, it's what it leads
to.
"Reverend Jerry Falwell says dancing leads to premarital sex, drinking,
smoking, voting pro-choice and driving foreign cars. And I always trust Reverend
Falwell."
Fuck I hate that sack of shit. I hate him almost as much as I hate Benny Hinn.
One down, one to go.
I hate the whole damn lot of them. You're spot on about islam extremists too. If
one of these guys was from the middle east, there'd be a war on terror declared
against then.
GAK67 Report This Comment Date: December 18, 2008 09:41PM
I am impressed that there has actually been some intelligent comments on this
rather than the usual anti-god barrage. I am happy to admit I have Christian
beliefs, and don't even have an issue with Christian fundamentalists, but this
sort of opinionated morality is not what Christ was about, it's not what the
bible is about, and it's a far cry from true Christianity. Trying to control
peoples lives like that is just a power trip. It is this sort of ill advised,
badly researched opinions and public brainwashing that has led to dark moments
in history like religious crusades/wars that killed thousands. It's the same as
islamic extremists - they do not represent islam as a whole and are using their
own interpretation of teachings to justify their actions. I really don't see
any difference here. If somebody can, please explain it to me.
Sorry that I have basically repeated my previous comments, but this sort of
thing really grates!
pulse Report This Comment Date: December 18, 2008 10:28PM
Yeah.. unfortunately, the televangelists even appear in Australia in their
natural form. Fortunately though, they tend to be on TV at 4am.
It was weird, sitting up all night smoking weed watching them spew their garbage
- I seriously began a hatred for them more deep than you could ever imagine.
Benny Hinn is the worst I think. Fucker sits on TV telling me he's going to cure
all the world's problems and heal all the world's sick if only I send him a
couple of dollars ....
Investigations have shown that his "ministry" generates far more
wealth than it needs to, yet "Benny Hinn Ministries is not a member of the
Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability". In December 2006, BHM
sent out a mailing asking for donations towards a new Gulfstream G4SP jet valued
at an estimated US$36 million and costs over US$600,000/year to maintain and
operate.
Just reading through the criticisms section of his Wikipedia page makes me want
to slap him. [
en.wikipedia.org]
The thing I hate most about televangelism, and what these people do, is they
prey on the weak and in pain to further their own financial gain. I have no
problems with people finding religion if it helps them, but this isn't any kind
of help I'd ever want. "Send me your money, and I will pray for you".
Fucking assholes.
GAK67 Report This Comment Date: December 18, 2008 10:33PM
Amen! Preach it brother!
quasi Report This Comment Date: December 18, 2008 11:58PM
GAK67 said,
"I am impressed that there has actually been some intelligent comments on
this rather than the usual anti-god barrage. I am happy to admit I have
Christian beliefs, and don't even have an issue with Christian fundamentalists,
but this sort of opinionated morality is not what Christ was about, it's not
what the bible is about, and it's a far cry from true Christianity. Trying to
control peoples lives like that is just a power trip. It is this sort of ill
advised, badly researched opinions and public brainwashing that has led to dark
moments in history like religious crusades/wars that killed thousands. It's the
same as islamic extremists - they do not represent islam as a whole and are
using their own interpretation of teachings to justify their actions. I really
don't see any difference here. If somebody can, please explain it to
me."
You pretty much took the words right out of my mouth, GAK, though the
fundamentalists do often give me pause.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: December 19, 2008 03:22AM
Bah, it was 5:40 in the am GAK & my 2nd cup of joe haddn quite kicked in
yet, dude. Though I tend to murder our language for my own amusement, I do try
to spell things correctly, but ... I'm human yakno!
Televangelists/evangelicals all get painted with the same brush as other groups
of Christians from my perspective though since they all have the Bible as their
base document, even if there is a good deal of disparity in how certain groups
bend/abuse/manipulate it to push their own agendas, while others aren't quite as
brash.
From a purely humanist viewpoint, they all seem wacked to me, but as was said
above, if that keeps your boat on an even keel, sail on sailor
GAK67 Report This Comment Date: December 19, 2008 06:04PM
Despite my vitriol before, and lando's assertion, I am not convinced this is
not a spoof. Firstly, the woman in the front 'pointing out' her niece looks as
though she is dancing like the rest of the crowd. Secondly, the comment about
'driving foreign cars' is a step too far. Thirdly, while I know these guys want
your money to say "I really,
really need your dollars. Today."
is about as subtle as fixing your wrist watch with a sledge hammer. Lastly, as
Wolfgang pointed out, dancing is not exactly frowned upon in the bible.
Maybe it's just wishful thinking.
quasi Report This Comment Date: December 20, 2008 12:31AM
I agree that is just a little too over the top to be real, but the Baptist
church my mother attends believes dancing is wrong and has even tried to offer
kids an alternative to attending their proms. Is ridiculous things like this
that caused me to stop going to ghurch many, many years ago. I'm just a little
more rational than to believe a lot of the crap that some people claim as part
of Chritianity,nor do I believe the stuff in the Bible is anything more than a
lot of story telling with some good moral teachings sprinkled throughout which
people routinely twist to fit their own pathological whims.
Wait up, Diane, I'm probably going with you.
pulse Report This Comment Date: December 20, 2008 12:55AM
I'd believe it, when that church's website posts things like the following.
As seen at [
trbc.org]
(one of the parent's rules for dating his daughter)
Rule Eight:
The following places are not appropriate for a date with my
daughter: Places where there are beds, sofas, or anything
softer than a wooden stool. Places where there are no
parents, policemen, or nuns within eyesight. Places where
there is darkness. Places where there is dancing, holding
hands, or happiness. Places where the ambient temperature
is warm enough to induce my daughter to wear shorts, tank
tops, midriff T-shirts, or anything other than overalls, a
sweater, and a goose down parka - zipped up to her throat.
Movies with a strong romantic or sexual theme are to be
avoided; movies which features chain saws are okay.
Hockey games are okay. Old folks homes are better.
Rule Nine:
Do not lie to me. I may appear to be a potbellied, balding,
middle-aged, dimwitted has-been. But on issues relating to
my daughter, I am the all-knowing, merciless god of your
universe. If I ask you where you are going and with whom,
you have one chance to tell me the truth, the whole truth
and nothing but the truth. I have a shotgun, a shovel, and
five acres behind the house. Do not trifle with me.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: December 20, 2008 01:59AM
footloose!
GAK67 Report This Comment Date: December 21, 2008 10:11AM
Now I know it is a spoof, pulse. My boss, who had a daughter in her early
teens at the time, received a joke email with "Rules for dating my tenage
daughter" that included the two you just listed. It also had a
questionaire for potential dates attached. My favourite was: "What I like
most about your daaughter is her_________. (If your answer begins with a 'B' I
would suggest running - fast, and for your safety, preferably in a zig zag
fashion."
