Mrkim Report This Comment Date: July 09, 2020 02:48AM
I find it inconvenient to BE oppressed. Give me the option of wearing a mask or
not and I'll choose NOT every fuckin time
I guess the OPs point is lost in the concept of who then IS the oppressor,
inconvenient governmental proclamations or businesses honoring their
proclamations as salient, well thought out logical inconveniences
pulse Report This Comment Date: July 09, 2020 04:42AM
I'd say you're not being oppressed, you're being given conditions of entry. If
you want to enter, you meet the conditions.. or you don't enter. They're still
giving you the choice.
I agree that you'd never CHOOSE to wear a mask. They clearly do work though when
used properly. There's a reason surgeons don't just wing it.. As soon as you
start touching it, moving it, dropping it to talk to people, wear it too long or
in the wrong way - it absolutely loses effectiveness. It's as much to protect me
from you, as you from me.. given the shit going on right now, I'd rather be told
I have to wear a mask to go outside than deal with the 6 weeks of lockdown that
started here today.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: July 09, 2020 05:46PM
Who exactly is determining the efficacy of mask wearers actions? Is there any
insurance what so ever that the bulk of mask wearers are doing so in any manner
that leads to them actually being effective for any longer than a few minutes at
best?
Surely you're aware that the most commonly used masks, yes, the type worn by
doctors and nurses every day, are only effective in a best case scenario for no
more than 20 mins. in a STERILE environment, right? Bandanas, scarves and all
the plethora of other crap people wear to simply cover their mouth and nose are
significantly less effective and can actually pose increased risks of
contamination to the wearer as well as anyone around them.
The reality is that wearing a mask is a perfunctory act of compliance to then
allow us travel amongst our fellow compliant members of society without being
reprimanded for refusing to do so.
I currently wear a mask for over 30hrs a week and can tell you this does lead to
several unwanted side effects that have nothing to do with covid.
Even wearing one where it vents as freely as possible it still leads to
ingestion of lower levels of oxygen, yakno that stuff we NEED to take in to live
and function.
The masks quickly collect moisture from respiration and also cause increased
perspiration which quickly makes the mask itself totally ineffective at doing
anything other than making it a sponge for contamination of all sorts, not just
covid.
This decreased ingestion of oxygen also causes some to experience the effects of
a loss of mental acuity which can also lead to depression. Can't say this is how
it effects me but I can surely relate I'm not doing my best when my level of
oxygen is less than it could be. It does also lead to increased levels of phloem
I hafta spit up as well as increased nasal congestion too. All of this so I can
be a good little compliant citizen and stay off the damned welfare/unemployment
roles and try to continue instead to be a functioning/contributing member of
society.
In years to come when all this travesty of conflated nonsense is written about
we'll have a more thorough picture of what it cost the world as a whole in terms
of personal freedoms, costs to uninfected citizens who were forced with
compliance of politically driven mandates to be subjected to other health
issues, costs to how businesses and even complete nations economies were ravaged
by these required compliances, all over a man made virus that had a
survivability rate at or above 98%, meaning it never even reached a true
pandemic state in realistic terms.
While you might not view this as oppressive, that's fine, we all get to choose
how we view things
pro_junior Report This Comment Date: July 09, 2020 07:22PM
Two days ago I was at a grocery store and almost everyone was wearing a mask
(now mandatory in the state where I live) .. most were masks made from some
flimsy cloth material or a simple dust mask.. most people I watched were
fidgeting with their mask and/or had their nose outside of their mask.. I saw
one guy pull his mask down and then cough without covering his mouth in any way,
then put his mask back on.
If you still believe that a mask will save you then I just don't know what else
to tell you..
It is my opinion that the handful of people that are wearing masks correctly are
very possibly slowing the spread of their germs. Keyword is 'slowing', they are
not stopping it.
I am not worried about getting covid-19 anymore then I have ever worried about
getting any other illness.
20+ years ago I had cancer and I wasn't scared of that so why would I be scared
of this?
I'm not scared because I know Everyone will die. When your number is, your
number is up. If you're meant to die from the Rona then that's that.
As for the argument that by not wearing a mask you are putting others at risk?
Nonsense. If you see someone that is not wearing a mask and you're scared of the
Rona, then stay more than 6 feet away from them, what the fuck is so hard to
understand about that?
pro_junior Report This Comment Date: July 09, 2020 07:26PM
Also:
I do fully believe that a business has the right to refuse service to anyone.
So if they say you can't go in without (or with, in some cases) then don't go
in. It is that easy.
The anger that people have about this issue comes from the fact that liberals
have successfully destroyed people and their businesses for refusing service to
people because of religious beliefs.
I'm among the group of people that don't like double standards.
quasi Report This Comment Date: July 09, 2020 09:33PM
So many excuses to avoid a simple act of personal responsibility.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: July 10, 2020 12:27AM
And after overwhelming evidence is presented showing how ineffective wearing a
mask is an
I-know-what's-best-for-you-and-you-should-do-as-I-say lib still wants to finger wag
quasi Report This Comment Date: July 10, 2020 01:23AM
Your alternative facts are BS
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: July 10, 2020 01:33AM
Facts are the only thing you obviously see as irrelevant ... color me So
Surprised
pro_junior Report This Comment Date: July 10, 2020 01:44AM
Excuses? Excuses for what?
I gave reasons.
Also, I have never said whether or not I personally wear a mask...but you have
assumed that I don't.
Your desire to be angry and judgemental is sad.
GAK67 Report This Comment Date: July 10, 2020 06:39AM
PJ - I've never really understood fatalists like you obviously are with the 'if
your number is up, your number is up' attitude. I mean, why use a seatbelt, wear
a helmet. or carry a gun for protection. It's not worth it, as 'if your number
is up, your number is up'. Where do you draw the line? Do you lock your door at
night? If so, why?
pro_junior Report This Comment Date: July 10, 2020 07:20AM
Yes, I'm a fatalist..
I look at this way, if death were a lottery then everyone would eventually
'win'..but that doesn't mean I'm going to go out and buy extra lottery tickets..
e.g. yes, I wear a seat belt etc..
Because I don't fear death it doesn't mean I welcome it..
Likewise, I don't fear Covid-19 but that doesn't mean I'm out licking
handrails...
Does that answer your question?
pulse Report This Comment Date: July 10, 2020 08:34AM
Just not taking basic steps to avoid it?
If you're using a chainsaw would you wear hearing protection? Eye protection?
Make sure you're not going to cut your arm off because you'll hit a tree instead
of a shoulder?
I'm with Gak, where's the line? What's an acceptable risk and what's "oh
well time is up"?
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: July 10, 2020 12:12PM
Fatalist? Hmmm ...
I usually don't wear a seatbelt though I'll have it over my shoulder so the cops
leave me alone, but, if I'm out slammin corners in the country or if it's rainin
I'll put it on. Nothin beats the adrenaline rush I get takin a car to the edge
of what it can do and if I managed to die that way, so long as I'm doin over
100mph at the time, I'd go out with a smile.
Always wear ear protection when needed, always have because I appreciate good
hearing. Somethin my appreciation of music has always driven me to take care of,
so ... Samey same w/eye protection.
Def not a germophobe but if I've been doin some plumbin well yeah I'm gonna wash
my hands before it's time to eat. Always remember the 2 rules of Plumbing: 1.
Payday's on Frydee and 2. Don't chew your fingernails.
None of us get to know when our last day here is gonna be, which is problee a
good thing
pro_junior Report This Comment Date: July 10, 2020 02:14PM
If I'm using a chainsaw, I wear safety glasses, ear plugs, AND a hardhat...
Like I said, because I don't fear death it doesn't mean I do things to increase
my chances of dying...read the part again about "not buying extra lottery
tickets"
I generally enjoy living and I hope to live several more years..but I simply
don't stress over whether or not I will...
Not caring about my eventual death doesn't equate to living carelessly.
