Mrkim Report This Comment Date: May 05, 2013 06:53PM
Same stuff is happenin with Linux Ubuntu here at the casa
Still hangin with 11.04 even after 11.10 and 12.04 hit the streets, and for a
similar reason. 11.04 was the last distro with the Gnome desktop (although you
still have to opt out of Unity to get to it), and I can't stand the fuckin Unity
desktop they're usin now (headexplode)
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 05, 2013 06:56PM
Anyone who upgrades to the very latest version of any OS other than for testing
purposes deserves what they get. MS gets the most criticism because they are the
most used so there are more people to bitch about it. Sure they deserve it but
figure the odds and be realistic about it.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 05, 2013 07:11PM
Amen Kim. The same things happen with all the OSes. Anyone with experience can
verify that. I have never upgraded for the sake of upgrading on the personal
level. I always wait unless I've got a test machine to play with. On the work
level I had to (when I could and was working that is). I was pretty happy with
W2K Pro to be honest. It was a definite step up from W9x, that is for sure. I'm
currently using XP still. In the Linux realm I liked RH7 using KDE desktop best
and haven't seen any distro I was very impressed with since. I might install
some flavor of Linux on a retired machine I have here. I'm missing a few
hardware things though.
quasi Report This Comment Date: May 05, 2013 07:19PM
I like my XP just fine so of course MS has announced they're discontinuing
support for it next year. The laptop my kid gave me has Vista which kinda sucks
in some ways but I'm figuring it out. Friend of mine just had her laptop die a
couple days ago and got a new one with Windows 8 - waiting to hear the results
of that.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 05, 2013 07:56PM
Vista is a disappointment. I got a laptop given to me with Vista on it long ago
too. We tried it for a while before I said fuck this shit and put XP on it
instead. I couldn't get the right drivers for the embedded NIC to work under XP
but the wireless NIC was fine and worked so not a big deal. I saw win 7 running
on a couple of machines and wasn't especially impressed but it did seem a bit
better than Vista was. In my opinion Vista is to WinNT OSes what WinME is to
Win9x OSes.
pulse Report This Comment Date: May 06, 2013 01:13AM
kim: real men don't GUI
That said my desktop at home is a Win7 machine, which I actually don't mind. My
laptop is a macbook air, so OSX there. I played around a bit with Windows 8 in a
VM. I'm sure it's fine, but it's just so different I can't get used to it. My
work laptop is still Win XP, it's hard to swap between all these versions and
OS' ..
Windows 8 w/start button would probably be fine. The problem is, long ago
desktop PCs started getting high resolution monitors etc, and we don't WANT to
run everything full screen anymore. Those ideas went out with Windows 95, so I
don't know why 20 years later they're back. I have a 27", 2560x1440 monitor
on my desk. Why the hell do I want the calculator app full screen? Just makes no
sense to me. My desktop doesn't use a touch screen, nor would I want to reach up
and do stuff with it if it did. It's not a tablet. I don't want this stuff on my
desktop.
Everything else I own runs some variety of Linux, none of which have a GUI at
all.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 06, 2013 02:55AM
Real men play Minesweeper with real mines.
jgoins Report This Comment Date: May 06, 2013 10:53AM
Been using win7 for some time now and having no problems with it. Switched
from vista which I had no problems with either. Guess I will stick with 7 until
MS decides to stop supporting it as well. I tried linux a while back and could
never get used to it so never bothered with any of them. I never have any
problems with virus' with windows computers because I know what not to do on the
internet. I like GUI and will continue to use it until forced to change.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: May 06, 2013 12:22PM
Hell pulse, cut an old dude some slack would ya
Started out at 42 with a WebTv set top box, which I hung onto for 4 or 5yrs,
then traded for an old NIB Dell 166mhz machine w/ ME on it and a 15"
monitor for some car work and in the same week went to a 1gig Athalon machine
runnin XP, 512mb of RAM & a whopper of a 40gig HD w/a 19" NEC monitor
for a turbo install and some port work I had done.
Had a good friend that got tired of fixin my messes in XP and turned me onto
Linux Lindows, which by way of appeasement to Windows soon came to be called
Linspire, hell, he even made me a Red Hat firewall machine w/his own customized
coding for it outta the old Dell.
At my 50th Bday bash the same friend showed up from NJ w/a shiny new CD of
Ubuntu 6.06, their very 1st stable LTS distro, a new 24X DVD drive & 250gig
HD, loaded it all up on my trusty Athalon machine (which now had a full gig of
RAM), took care of all the patches and fixes and I thought I'd died and gone to
heaven!
Within another year I had updated to 7.06? and built my very 1st machine usin a
build list my buddy had put together for me. He'd also spent several hours
remotely workin through fixes and such w/ me while teachin me how to search for
work arounds online.
From there I began buyin cheap machines to fiddle with and learn shit on without
hurtin my main machine, swapped to various new distros, tried a few different
Linux flavors, even played around with XP some more and then gave a Hacintosh
box a whirl.
Flash forward to now and I have more 'puters than I need, all runnin some distro
of Ubuntu, all home built and w/way more CPU speed and RAM than I need (notice I
said need and not WANT), but I'm def a GUI guy. I'll bust off into a console
panel so long as I can C&P commands from a how-to I've found, otherwise, I
never even open it up.
I'm sure I could learn to code, but lookin back on all I've done so far, that
learnin curve was steep enough, so the lazy man inside me just says
"Fuckit, stay w/the GUI", so ...
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 06, 2013 05:04PM
I suppose that I am somewhat of a mix between a cmd line and a GUI kind of
person. I like and use both. GUI has definitely opened up computer use to the
general public. Most have no time nor desire to get deeper than that and for too
many that is still too confusing. As long as they keep upgrading I am sure M$
and friends are happy but with tablets and smartphones in the forefront of
marketing the desktops and notebooks are starting to ride in the backseat.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: May 06, 2013 07:11PM
i've meant to figure out for.....like 5 years+ how to access a website through
a terminal connection, but have yet to. to many other things have taken
priority.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 06, 2013 07:27PM
Doing so from the shell is going to have to open a web-browser anyway so why
bother?
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: May 06, 2013 10:52PM
PLP claims it to be much more of a secure connection and swears by it.
and he is my most knowledgeable geek friend
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woberto Report This Comment Date: May 07, 2013 11:25AM
Uggh. When the screen times out, it wants me to log back in via my
"microsoft ID"
Hotmail, Outlook, loginlive, whatever.
No thanks.
I need some new clients. Not gonna work with that shit.
jgoins Report This Comment Date: May 07, 2013 11:25AM
Does anyone remember the Timex Sinclair computer, it was my first computer and
I learned basic programming on it. From there I went to Commodore 64 which I
used to billing in my business. The first computer I put together I took out an
8088 motherboard and replaced it with a 286 motherboard and everyone kept
telling me it can't work but it did. I started it out with a 50meg hard drive
and an amber monochrome monitor with 128megs of ram. All of this was in the
late seventies to early eighties while I was learning programming in college.
Now my computer is a Gateway 1.8ghz quad core 64bit machine with 4 gigs of ram
and 3 500gig and one 2tb hard drives and 4 external dvd burners with one
internal and a 23in lcd hdmi screen. My want machine would be a top of the line
Alienware system.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: May 07, 2013 12:33PM
Alienware is nice stuff .... that you can build yourself for 1/3 - 1/2 the
price they charge for it
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 07, 2013 06:24PM
Since the 80286 is only capable of 16MB addressable memory and 1MB of physical
RAM I wonder how you managed to put 128MB of RAM in it.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: May 07, 2013 08:06PM
hammer
pulse Report This Comment Date: May 08, 2013 03:17AM
I presumed he meant 128K given he was saying late 70s early 80s
Alienware are nice, but I'll take the pepsi challenge on my desktop any day
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 08, 2013 03:39AM
I presumed he didn't know what he was talking about as is usually the case.
jgoins Report This Comment Date: May 08, 2013 11:06AM
Yes the 80286 was 128k of memory the megs was a typo and the machine was well
over 30 years ago and computer memory has changed so much since then, human
memory gets foggy over time. I have forgotten more about computers than most
people ever know, people keep bringing their ailing computers to me for repair
so I must be doing something right. I was selling computers at the fleamarket
starting with the 8088 dos based computers running windows 3.1. Thank you Blah
I feel the love.
pulse Report This Comment Date: May 08, 2013 12:25PM
128K on a 286 sounds really low, most came with 512, 640 or 1 MB in 286 era
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 08, 2013 02:36PM
As I recall, you couldn't put only 128K in a standard 286 motherboard. Four
rows of RAM chip sockets each needing 256K. So the choices were 256K, 512K, 768K
or 1M.
Sorry JG, but if you didn't regularly spout of BS nobody would call you on it.
Somebody probably will anyway so it may as well be me. It doesn't mean I hate
you. I just want you to see how you screw it up for yourself by saying dumb shit
too much. In other words, be more careful and don't make yourself look so
stupid.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/05/2013 03:41PM by BlahX3.
jgoins Report This Comment Date: May 09, 2013 11:27AM
Ok it has been so long I don't really remember exactly how much memory it was
all I do remember for sure was that all 4 slots were full and it was running
great. I remember on 2 separate occasions I was using 128k simms once and 246k
simms the second time. There was no intention to bullshit anyone it was just
simply a lapse in memory on the details. I never use bullshit unless I use it
so far out of reality it is clearly bullshit, like aliens landing on the front
lawn of the white house. I do not lie or bullshit anyone, anything I say is
generally what I truly believe. You can point any inaccuracies if you like but
never try to say I am bullshitting anyone because what I usually say is the
truth as I see it and most things are open to interpretation in this world.
Actual details are not very important but the general idea of something is what
is important.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 09, 2013 02:01PM
Well, I have to stand semi-corrected on this one. I do recall that SIMMs were
around while 286s were still being produced and in use but I was primarily
thinking of the 286 boards with DIP chip memory. Anyway, your numbers are still
not quite right, that would be 256K not 246K but whatever. It just seems to me
that for someone claiming to know so much about computers that those numbers
would not be a point of confusion, but whatever.
Unlike you, I am a stickler for details. The devil is in the details as the
saying goes. People get screwed up on details and wind up making bad decisions
too often as a result.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/05/2013 02:36PM by BlahX3.
jgoins Report This Comment Date: May 10, 2013 11:01AM
Well you are right they were 256k chips the 246 was a simple typo where the 4
was hit instead of the 5. If you are such a stickler for details then why not
jump people on this board who use improper english like using a instead of an or
using irregardless when it is not even a word.
10 print "bite me"
20 goto 10
run
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BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 10, 2013 05:10PM
"Father forgive us for what we must do
You forgive us, we'll forgive you
We'll forgive each other till we both turn blue
And go whistlin' and a-fishin' in heaven."
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: May 11, 2013 04:07PM
That's funny PJ
quasi Report This Comment Date: May 22, 2013 02:50PM
re my friend who bought the new laptop. She went to return it the other day
'cause she couldn't get the thing to do some things she needed for her college
work. Haven't heard how that turned out.
jgoins Report This Comment Date: May 23, 2013 11:07AM
What did she want it to do copy her neighbor's test?
