jgoins Report This Comment
Date: May 14, 2012 09:56AM

I guess you would rather renig in November.

Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: May 14, 2012 12:53PM

If electing Romney seems to be the best defense against Obozo-ist policies then the seeming firestorm of media blitz BS would seem to have achieved its goal of total disinformation

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: May 15, 2012 11:29AM

The mainstream media is always about misinformation and never about facts. Smart people watch Fox News, Go ahead and jump on me.

woberto Report This Comment
Date: May 15, 2012 12:44PM

Seeing as you have new digs Kim, have you registered to vote?

Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: May 15, 2012 12:54PM

Fox has taken such a decidedly leftist turn in just the past 6 months it's sickening.

From it's place as the last bastion of conservative news left in anything resembling main stream media to its current position of pure fluff journalism and leftist leaning slant in reporting, even it has become useless in the struggle to truly know what's goin on.

In todays diversionary and informationally challenged media circus its lead to anyone wanting to get a real feel for what's happening to seek out the lesser known outlets, the foreign press and dig much deeper than the crap that flows into the idiot box.

Without seeking out many different sources, reading nearly incessantly, then utilizing these various streams to discern what is truth from agenda driven drivel, one is truly just acting as an unwitting tool for the machine

Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: May 15, 2012 12:55PM

Yeah 'berto and I WILL be utilizing that voice next month and in November

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: May 15, 2012 03:33PM

I watch Fox News and I see fair and balanced with a little left leaning, but I only watch Fox and Friends in the mornings.

I would think the foreign news services would slant the American news to suit their own purposes as well since most other countries don't seem to like us much.

BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: May 15, 2012 03:51PM

I don't watch TV these days (can't afford cable) but I used to like watching The O'Reilly Factor on Fox and a coupla other shows. Of course the media is always biased somehow but that's always been the case.

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: May 16, 2012 10:31AM

Well you can always watch most everything online now.

duane Report This Comment
Date: May 17, 2012 09:48AM

Ron Paul, even if I have to write it myself. Romney is the same Obama everyone is bitching about. I'd rather have the impending revolution then some false sense of accomplishment in just trading puppets. I believe in liberty and the republic we were created as. Fox news is only fair and balanced if you agree with them. I don't watch them anymore, I try not to get any news from mainstream media outlets. Their corporate backers are more interested in sensationalism. Hegelian Dialectic at it's best. DC is in bed with corporations, both sides lie and profit from it. Our bill of rights is being stripped away so we can have no say in it. My country is great but as for this game, I think we should burn the board and start over.

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: May 17, 2012 10:55AM

The problem with burning the board and starting over is you never know what will fill the vacuum created and you can never get a majority to agree on dismantling what we have.

Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: May 17, 2012 11:06AM

^^^^^ And this from the guy ramblin on and on about "vote 'em all out and start over with a clean slate of politicians" ? ^^^^^

Try pickin a position and apply some continuity to it JG.


Right there with ya duane, well said

quasi Report This Comment
Date: May 17, 2012 01:04PM

duane
I've come to the conclusion that if Romney is the best the republifucks can do then they deserve another four years of Obama which will hasten the demise of the current messed up system. At best Romney will only delay the inevitable. We need to stop being the poiliceman/rich uncle for the rest of the world and clean up our own house in some other way than just printing more bogus money to throw at the problems. How does it make sense that we continue to borrow, borrow, borrow only to give it away to other nations that resent us - let them borrow it themselves and let them fight their own battles, we can't continue this.

woberto Report This Comment
Date: May 17, 2012 09:50PM

Foreign policy isn't often an election issue.
I believe that these policies are driven by forces outside of the elected government.

Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: May 18, 2012 12:40AM

Establishing foreign military bases, sending troops all over hell and yon, heaving butt-loads of cash at 150+ countries is something that IS decided by the clusterfuck we know as Congress and the head of the executive branch, the prez. So yeah, these are NOT commitments made by outside forces

woberto Report This Comment
Date: May 18, 2012 02:16AM

Sorry Kim, I forgot that Congress were elected officials.
In Australia we have a Labour Caucous that call the shots and they are a mixed bag of "faceless men" headed by our abortion of a Prime Minister.

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: May 18, 2012 11:03AM

Well Duane was calling for a revolution to disassemble our current form of government which may cause more problems than it fixes. My idea of voting everyone out does not remove our government it simply should make them think a little more about the path they had taken. We would probably be able to get more people to agree to vote out everyone in office than to agree to forcibly take over the government.

quasi Report This Comment
Date: May 18, 2012 01:38PM

I don't think duane was actually calling for a revolution, he seemed to me to be implying that there will be a revolution if things don't change and that he'd prefer such a revolution to the continued business as usual in Washington.

pro_junior Report This Comment
Date: May 18, 2012 11:12PM

Vote for Ron Paul, bitches

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: May 19, 2012 10:52AM

"My country is great but as for this game, I think we should burn the board and start over."

How else would you burn the board and start over?

Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: May 19, 2012 11:49AM

Hey PJ, I know the kinda support there is 'round here for RP but I'm curious about it in your end of the country. Could you shed some insight on that

BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: May 19, 2012 03:28PM

I think people around the country tend to think Oregon is pretty liberal but I think it is fairly balanced here. There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of talk about Ron Paul here. It might be different up where PJ is. There is a lot of anti-Obama talk but not much support for any alternatives that I can see. Everyone basically seems fed up with the feds on both side of the aisle and wants change and to be left the fuck alone. I will say we seem to be very tolerant of other's views even if we completely disagree. We disagree but don't fight over it. It's more important to us to get along and help each other out when we can. I imagine in many ways it is a lot like the south. People care a lot but don't fuck with them.

pro_junior Report This Comment
Date: May 19, 2012 04:40PM

if it wasn't for the internet or the occasional sign in someones yard, I'd have no idea who Ron Paul is. I have been through roughly 20 U.S. states in the last 3 weeks and it seems pretty much the same everywhere. I think politcal news programs and Nascar should be banned from television. Let people do their own research and not be biased by what their favorite newsman says. also Nascar is making too many young men drive like total fucktards.

BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: May 19, 2012 05:24PM

You have a very good couple of points there PJ. I wish people were not so damn stupid. Even folks who I consider to be of fair intelligence get brainwashed by the media and especially TV. I can't believe some of the absolute tripe that comes out of their mouths.

quasi Report This Comment
Date: May 19, 2012 05:42PM

I love the NASCAR rant, pj. I started calling it "the NASCAR mentality" several years ago when I was on the road a lot and it persists. And now it's NASCAR with texts; God help us 'cause human intelligence seems to get lost in the slip stream.

And Ron Paul has been blocked by the MSM and big business but word of mouth is spreading the message, so much so that the MSM had to actually mention him a few times, though too slowly for this go round which will probably be Ron Paul's last because he's getting too old to continue the fight. Still, people are waking up and maybe someone else will pick up the torch before it's too late. I was late to the party myself but the groundswell continues.

GAK67 Report This Comment
Date: May 19, 2012 06:32PM

It wont change for you guys until you change your voting system to some sort of proportional system. Of course that has it's drawbacks too.

fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: May 19, 2012 10:33PM

a 3rd party is badly needed

Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: May 19, 2012 11:13PM

The only change I'd like to see in the election process is elimination of the electoral college and going to a straight up popular vote.

Anytime a system can be manipulated and gamed, it will be, most especially when it's one related to power and $$ in the eventual outcome (headexplode)

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: May 20, 2012 11:13AM

The method of voting needs to change. They need to figure out a secure way to vote from home either on the phone or on the internet. We have voter fraud with the current method but that should not stop them from figuring an easier way for people to vote. If American Idol can do it then why can't we make that secure?