woberto
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Date: June 06, 2011 07:48AM
Anon
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Date: June 06, 2011 07:42PM
Not for long, if Obama has his way.
fossil_digger
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Date: June 06, 2011 07:48PM
i dare that fuck to try it.
BlahX3
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Date: June 07, 2011 01:26PM
I wonder who will be ramming your door in first, Secret Service, FBI or Homeland Security.
fossil_digger
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Date: June 07, 2011 01:48PM
i won't discriminate.
fossil_digger
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Date: June 07, 2011 02:06PM
even the anointed O'dipshit cannot stand up to the gun lobby.
Anon
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Date: June 07, 2011 02:32PM
Hopefully your right,but they are trying DAMN HARD!!!!!
fossil_digger
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Date: June 07, 2011 02:40PM
just look at the luck past presidents have had trying to sidestep the 2nd amendment....nada!
GAK67
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Date: June 07, 2011 09:32PM
As much as I am in favour of gun control, fossil is right on this - the constitutional right of US citizens to keep and bare arms is so entrenched in that country and culture that it wont change in a hurry.
If anything the gun culture in the US has been strengthened in recent years (at least from what I have picked up from media and anecdotal evidence) as people want to have guns to protect themselves and their country from terrorists.
fossil_digger
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Date: June 08, 2011 01:19AM
you missed the point of the right to bear once again.
GAK67
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Date: June 08, 2011 02:35AM
No I didn't - I just didn't mention it.
fossil_digger
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Date: June 08, 2011 02:54AM
you think the terrorist threat is the most important?
GAK67
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Date: June 08, 2011 03:03AM
Is that what I said? Or did I say that the gun culture that was already there had been strengthened by the terrorist threat?
fossil_digger
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Date: June 08, 2011 03:14AM
i know what you said...but what did you mean? the threat of terrorism created by the govt.? or the threat of planes flying into buildings? maybe you know of an attack i don't know of? or to come?
fossil_digger
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Date: June 08, 2011 03:49AM
or is it the irony of having the right to carry to help the general public arm themselves against the inevitable new world order and Illuminati/masonic one world dictatorship?
did i reach too far there for ya?
fossil_digger
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Date: June 08, 2011 04:13AM
or maybe gun owners are paranoid delusionists?
c'mon man, speak up
GAK67
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Date: June 08, 2011 04:24AM
No, not too far for me, but I fear you have over-reached yourself. If the new world order and Illuminati/masonic one world dictatorship is inevitable (as you claim) what is the point of taking up arms against it?
And as for what I meant, I meant what I said.
No I do not know of any impending attack, but how you think somebody like me who lives in the back blocks of the planet would know anything like that is beyond me. The next terrorist attack though may not be (and probably wont be) planes flying into buildings, and due to the general fear of another terrorist attack I have heard, anecdotally, that more people have armed themselves in order to protect themselves and their country. It could even be argued that they are doing so to ensure "the security of a free State".
That does not imply anything about what I personally believe is the main reason why the 2nd amendment was enacted or what I personally believe is the biggest threat to the US.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/06/2011 04:26AM by GAK67.
fossil_digger
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Date: June 08, 2011 04:42AM
the point is that it means different things to different people. lumping them all into terrorist paranoia is just wrong. i've never seen a breakdown of theoretical percentages (or factual), but i wouldn't be surprised if someone has tried.
GAK67
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Date: June 08, 2011 05:03AM
So what did I say in my comments that went against what you just posted to make you get you knickers in such a twist?
fossil_digger
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Date: June 08, 2011 01:06PM
my knickers never get twisted...they're Egyptian cotton.
i do however get mildly irritated by anti gun people who try to marginalize my rights with ideo-illogical statements, and i will call you out every time you make such assumptions of facts without the facts.
GAK67
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Date: June 08, 2011 06:21PM
Except I didn't try to marginalise your rights and made no assumptions of facts, hence your knickers, at least metaphorically, were well and truly twisted.
fossil_digger
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Date: June 08, 2011 06:54PM
that's
your opinion.
GAK67
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Date: June 08, 2011 08:54PM
Besides, I'm not anti-gun. I have fired guns many times before and have enjoyed doing so. I have even killed furred and feathered creatures. I am however pro-gun control.
Mrkim
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Date: June 09, 2011 01:28AM
I'm all about gun control too. True gun control means never having to say "I missed you"
fossil_digger
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Date: June 09, 2011 01:33AM
i believe in gun control also yak, i have never pulled one on a person, but i have had them pulled on me...i kept one of the 3 for nostalgia purposes.
