zxz555 Report This Comment Date: January 22, 2008 06:51PM
lol @
hands off black youth, what was this? a march against white women?
shaDEz Report This Comment Date: January 22, 2008 09:54PM
this was a march against the nationalists that wished to come to Jena carrying
nooses, guns, and giving hate speeches, and the pigs and reactionaries that
supported them... and all of that bourgeois idealogy!
a march against white women, or women in general, would be exactly the type of
march that these nationalist would go on; because that would be a march against
a group that is oppressed by this system of old that these slime uphold.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: January 22, 2008 11:08PM
shadez, I have to say, you should have been the whiteboy that got his ass beat
real well, the guys that did the beating were just average scum, criminal
records out the wahzoo with an attitude and would beat your ass for the hell of
it, not to mention beat another "bruthas" ass, they don't even care
about each other, you're a sick fuck shadez, if you ever find your dad, punch
him the fuckin' head.
By the way, you need to move to a ghetto, get the real feel, you know, so you
can feel their "pain" and help them, one on one. Quit following
professors that live their whole lives in Universities, you are a brainwashed
bitch.
When the black man doesn't rise up in society thats their own fault, until
they're made to take personal responsibility for their own fucked up ways
they'll never get anywhere, guaranteed, no matter how much they cry over
anything.
When you give a beggar on the street a $20 bill they feel like they have it
made, for a day or two, just like the black man, they want some
"freebies" here and there to make themselves feel better at that
moment ,but, over time they keep saying they haven't got anything and bitch and
cry for more....... of nothing that is. They refuse to be hard on themselves,
thats too much work and their crying over every little thing would come to an
end, no other race in this countries history has ever done things the black mans
way, they did things the smart way, they worked hard.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: January 23, 2008 12:22PM
Seemingly blind and totally misguided ideologies will get no one anywhere.
"Simple minds are easily lead"
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: January 23, 2008 10:22PM
simple minds....now there's a shitty band.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: January 23, 2008 10:34PM
Just out of idle curiosity shaDEz what exactly would this utopianistic
communist society you dream of look like in the real world ?
The real question though is HTF your communist ideologies are gonna change the
elements of human nature to achieve these goals? No matter how you slice it,
greed, racism, the desires to suceed and advance from personal achievement are
present to some degree in nearly everyone on the planet, so how would your
ideologies adress these?
Lastly here's my own perspective : anyone enamored with the idea of wanting for
everyone to be considered equal in all regards is someone also seeing themselves
as less than the bulk of society already and expecting embracement of
communistic doctrines by society as a way of improving their standing without
actually having to work for it.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: January 24, 2008 12:03AM
communism is a far better world in which there are nolonger class distinctions;
all systems and relations of exploitation abolished; all oppressive social
institutions and relations of social inequality(like racial discrimination, the
domination of women by men) are abolished; and all oppressive and backward ideas
and values are done away with
communism is a world of abundance where people together hold all of society's
resources in common
communism(as an idealogy in capitalist and socialist society) also refers to the
comprehensive outlook and scientific method of the proletariat for understanding
and changing the world for the better
but communism is not a utopia, because there will still exist contradictions in
the transformation of neccessity, and that brings me to your real question;
human nature!
there is no innate or unchanging "human nature"; people's thinking,
behavior, and values are shaped by the economic structure and corresponding
institutions and culture of a given society
capitalism is organized around the private accumulation of profit and economic
competition; selfishness, greed, and individualism are rewarded by the workings
of capitalism and promoted by the institution of capitalist society
they are not "hard-wired" into our genes, and neither is racism or
male supremacy!
this perspective of your's: "anyone enamored with the idea of wanting for
everyone to be considered equal in all regards is someone also seeing themselves
as less than the bulk of society already and expecting embracement of
communistic doctrines by society as a way of improving their standing without
actually having to work for it" is saying that we commies are lazy; don't
want to do work, is that what you are saying? how can we build a better world if
we don't work for it? no communists(not revionists or phony communists) are
willing to do alot of work, because that is what is neccessary-the
transformation of neccessity- for improvement
if a house needs to be built it will be built, but instead of the people who
actually build it being paid only enough to barely support themselves and
produce a new generation of workers to be exploited in the same way, and all of
their unpaid labor goes to the contractors and managers and then the house is
sold at a ridiculous rate so none of the workers that built that house could
ever afford to live in it, the workers will be paid fairly, the house will be
sold at a reasonable price... and not for money either, but rather based on the
idea of "each according to their need, according from their
abbility"
i am using the example of a house here, because that is probably the first thing
that will be done in this country in the socialist system(on the path to
communism) because the condition of the housing market at present
reference: www.thisiscommunism.org
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: January 24, 2008 03:31AM
The flies in your ointment are that exploitation, racism, and the will to
succeed by ones own merits are all a part of human nature and can not be willed
away or wished into non-existence by any form of social structuring or
governmental dogmatic policies either. My submission is that these ARE
hardwired factors of the human condition and no amount of Polly Annaish, rose
colored glasses vision techniques you can impart are going to make them
magically disappear.
It's not that it's impossible to sell this dream to those who feel down trodden,
discriminated or feel as if their current piece of the pie isn't a fair share in
their eyes as there will always be droves of such sheep to back such a move to
"make it all a more level playing field" (<-in THEIR eyes).
The problem, and the thorns in the side of any such movement, the hard sells for
this program are the ones at the top of their game, the ones driven by their own
merits and the rewards this avails them who like myself ask WTF right anyone has
to expect the world itself and society to change because they see their own
position in it and cry "Foul"!
The problem Communism has with the individual is that we are NOT created nor
imbued with the same gifts or abilities and suppression of the human spirit for
the need or will of the masses would always be a problem for those who are free
thinkers or possesors of the entepreneurial spirit that allows them to thrive in
a free society. And ... lest you start some diatribe about how your proposed
system IS free, let me ask just how free it would be when suppression of human
will and nature is a very by-law of how your ideologies would be to HAVE to work
?
Now for some direct answers to your own thoughts :
" is saying that we commies are lazy; don't want to do work, is that
what you are saying? how can we build a better world if we don't work for it? no
communists(not revionists or phony communists) are willing to do alot of work,
because that is what is neccessary-the transformation of neccessity- for
improvement.
What I said, and meant, is that this ideology will always find acceptance by
people who see their own position as less than fair and through embracement of
such a system as Communism would be more fair or equal again, "in their
eyes".
Would it take a lot of work to overturn the current system and implement such a
societal change as what this would mean? The short answer is HELL YEAH !
The longer and more realistic answer is that for many free thinking individuals
this will never be a sale and under your posed system that would make us
criminals as our own thoughts would be contrary to the "greater good".
Hence oppression ensues as people like myself would of necessity NEED to be put
down, shut up and hidden from the public view to help keep your mindless little
bubble from being threatened by my own and others like myself(s) words, actions
and yes, even thoughts as these would be deemed poisonous fruits in your garden.
"if a house needs to be built it will be built, but instead of the
people who actually build it being paid only enough to barely support themselves
and produce a new generation of workers to be exploited in the same way, and all
of their unpaid labor goes to the contractors and managers and then the house is
sold at a ridiculous rate so none of the workers that built that house could
ever afford to live in it, the workers will be paid fairly, the house will be
sold at a reasonable price... and not for money either, but rather based on the
idea of "each according to their need, according from their
abbility"
Now we're gettin to where the rubber really meets the road ! WHO will decide
when this house will need to be built, WHO will decide the amenities of this
house and by WHAT standards can such a decision become or be fair? Who will
decide the "fair wage" to be paid the workers, much less the fair
price for the finished home? Lastly WHO will decide individuals needs FOR them
or the value of THEIR abilities in this society you propose ?
The answer is one this dogmatic BS always prefers to avoid : the leaders of
"the movement", that's who ! My query is why would anyone want such
decisions to be made FOR them as opposed to BY them ? At least in a free market
society one has the ability to succeed or fail on their own merits and NEVER to
have such decisions made for them at whatever costs so it can all be for the
"greater good" of those with lesser drive, ability or skills.
You can consult whatever volume of Communistic reasoning/logic you like and
spout it from every vantage point imaginable but the real thinkers and doers of
the world will never embrace, it no matter how hard you try and sell it because
THEY are the ones who would be oppressed by its implementation.
Oh ... I did leave out one sub-segment of the above mentioned group. Those
looking to use such an ideology to empower their own agendas or better their
position by utilizing the will of their driven masses as tool to achieve such
goals will always be at the forefront of such movements and always withe the
"betterment of their fellow man" as their stated motivation with the
unstated motivation always being POWER !
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 30/01/2008 03:30PM by Mrkim.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: January 24, 2008 03:50AM
BTW, that video link above is really lame and points up EXACTLY the kind of
mentality your agenda appeals to
