Anonymous Report This Comment Date: September 16, 2007 02:30AM
"In George Orwell's 1984, there was an organization known as the Ministry
of Peace, whose purpose was to promote perpetual war. The Wiki definition[16]
explains that 'If the citizens of Oceania have a well-defined enemy, Eastasia or
Eurasia, then they know whom they hate, and constant homeland propaganda helps
to convince them to vent all their unconscious rage for their own country
against the opposing one. Since that means the balance of the country rests in
the war, the Ministry of Peace is in charge of fighting the war (mostly centered
around Africa and India), but making sure to never tip the scales, in case the
war should become one-sided.'
"That definition has come into fruition with Ari Fleischer's 'Freedom's
Watch' organization. While not a government agency per say, certainly it is
doing the White House's bidding by overtly connecting the war in Iraq to 9/11 in
an attempt to influence the American public into 'staying the course'," the
Armchair Generalist states.
-fossil
[
www.sourcewatch.org]
[
www.sourcewatch.org]
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www.sourcewatch.org]
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: September 16, 2007 02:34AM
And away we go..................
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90130_ Report This Comment Date: September 16, 2007 02:40AM
You silly monkeys need to get out more often....
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: September 16, 2007 02:43AM
90310 - 'Forum Addict' in denial...
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: September 16, 2007 02:44AM
90210 - 'Forum Addict' in denial...
90130_ Report This Comment Date: September 16, 2007 02:48AM
Anon conspiracy theorists. Who gives a fuck!
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: September 16, 2007 03:01AM
same old anoymous bullshit!
now he's gonna come up with some really stupid mother joke, or maybe your gay
nine-o. freakin' loser.
90130_ Report This Comment Date: September 16, 2007 03:06AM
I wouldn't expect anything less, Fossil. These guys are just hit and run, all
freakin' pomp and no circumstance.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: September 16, 2007 03:11AM
but he made you
think could this be true? are we all stupid for not
following?
you are funnier than adcbitch though anoymous, i'll give you that.
do you have any thoughts of your own boy? or are they all some dumbass net
videos that most likely noone will ever watch?
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: September 16, 2007 04:59AM
Ari Fleischer, dual citizenship, ain't that a bitch!
jgoins Report This Comment Date: September 16, 2007 11:29AM
When someone posts something anonymously it appears they do not believe it
enough to sign their name to it. My name is always attached to everything I
post because I never post sommething I don't believe in. Registering here is
free and easy so why not put a name to it and show you really believe what you
say?
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: September 16, 2007 01:09PM
Anonymous speech is a cornerstone of the internet. It is an expression of
freedom and a shield against retribution by employers, etc. for espousing
unpopular viewpoints. I occasionaly post anonymously just on principle. I am,
however, not the poster of this picture or the anonymous person posting earlier
in this topic.
quasi Report This Comment Date: September 16, 2007 02:29PM
Yeah, the retribution on this site is so harsh; someone my say something mean
to you or call you a nasty name. Don't blame you for being afraid.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: September 16, 2007 05:06PM
sniveling cowardice is the cornerstone of the internet?
now that's
funny!
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: September 16, 2007 05:17PM
if you had said, "it's a way for people living in countries where freedom
of speech is not a reality to speak their ming w/o retribution...yada yada
yada". then i might agree.
but seeing as there are few of those examples around anymore, i stand by the
sniveling comment.
freedom of speech is a relative reality even in the U.S. you can't tell a
co-worker to kiss you ass, or even a female co-worker she has a nice ass
so...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 16/09/2007 05:18PM by fossil_digger.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: September 16, 2007 05:29PM
I would hardly call it "sniveling cowardice". After all, one could
easily begin posting under a name like "Joe Smith" then change names
later. Or create another name "Bob Wilson" and make supporting posts
agreeing (or disagreeing) with Joe Smith. You can discard your identity easily
here, so it is not "brave" to post using a screen name. It is the same
reason how we vote in elections is private.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: September 16, 2007 05:51PM
Anonymous Wrote:
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> "In George Orwell's 1984, there was an
> organization known as the Ministry of Peace, whose
> purpose was to promote perpetual war. The Wiki
> definition[16] explains that 'If the citizens of
> Oceania have a well-defined enemy, Eastasia or
> Eurasia, then they know whom they hate, and
> constant homeland propaganda helps to convince
> them to vent all their unconscious rage for their
> own country against the opposing one. Since that
> means the balance of the country rests in the war,
> the Ministry of Peace is in charge of fighting the
> war (mostly centered around Africa and India), but
> making sure to never tip the scales, in case the
> war should become one-sided.'
>
> "That definition has come into fruition with
> Ari Fleischer's 'Freedom's Watch' organization.
> While not a government agency per say, certainly
> it is doing the White House's bidding by overtly
> connecting the war in Iraq to 9/11 in an attempt
> to influence the American public into 'staying the
> course'," the Armchair Generalist states.
> -fossil
>
>
> [
www.sourcewatch.org]
> ischer
>
> [
www.sourcewatch.org]
> 's_Watch
>
> [
www.sourcewatch.org]
> roup
This shit sounds like when my old lady is pissed of at me for drinking too much,
I'll just tell her that the bitch next door says she's fat and 10 minutes later
we're both pissed of at the bitch next door....(problem solved)
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: September 16, 2007 09:59PM
Talk about cowards, you guys pretend like you are not Anonymous.... just
pretend that my made up bullshit name is "Anonymous" and maybe you can
stop crying.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: September 16, 2007 10:16PM
yeah yeah, we're all anonymous.
my real name is
john fossil digger. don't believe me? look me up in the phone book.
quasi Report This Comment Date: September 17, 2007 12:05AM
My full name is Quasimodo and I haven't had a shread of anonymity since Victor
Hugo wrote that fucking book, most of which is based on lies and inuendo. Damned
bells give me a headache.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: September 17, 2007 12:22AM
poster child for excedrin.
duane Report This Comment Date: September 17, 2007 01:22AM
I'll take the OJ defense. If the message is stupid then so is the
messenger.
You base your politics on fiction. Take all unknown factors and fill them in
with conjecture. You were right about one thing, you are a "Propaganda
Master" but your still wrong.
Hey did you guys notice there are two Duane's on the board now.
90130_ Report This Comment Date: September 17, 2007 05:44AM
I'm 90130_ and I approved this message.
jgoins Report This Comment Date: September 17, 2007 12:06PM
Well my screen name is indeed my real name and I don't care who knows it. I am
not afraid of retribution of any kind so I use my own name. When I have an
opinion I own it lock stock and barrel and I am not afraid to put my name to it.
Why would anyone be afraid of anything on this site?
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: September 17, 2007 12:37PM
I'll stick by what I've said for a long time here. Anyone unwilling to at
least adopt even a bullshit ID here of some sort points to weakness in their own
convictions. And as for retribution for lack of anonymity .... gimme a fuckin
break.
Reprisals here are nonexistant and if your fear is retribution for posts
contrary to work necessitated positions it's easy enough to drum up some totally
BS handle that cannot be tied to oneself specifically so that BS can fly out the
window with the bath water too
I think cowardice and a desire to achieve a total lack of accountability (or
plausible deniability) for ones thoughts or ideas is the main reason people want
to remain anonymous here.
I have always gone by my name, here as well as most other places on the net, and
my real world email addy never leaves any doubt about who you're contacting when
you key it in.
To me, anyone who chooses to hide in total anonymity in an already anonymous
medium like the net is exhibiting a massive case of paranoia
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: September 17, 2007 02:03PM
If this is all you guys got to cry about you've got problems, work on
yourselves!
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: September 17, 2007 03:40PM
you won't find many idle minds around here that need enlightening. we pretty
much all think for ourselves and need no videos to speak for us.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: September 17, 2007 03:42PM
if you want to keep being anonymous maybe you should get a new IP. or get a
name and stand behind and for what you think, or keep making me laugh. i prefer
the latter.
quasi Report This Comment Date: September 17, 2007 09:31PM
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jgoins Report This Comment Date: September 18, 2007 12:22PM
I guess these anonymous people never voice their opinions anywhere in real life
where they can't hide their name. I have the same opinions in public as I do
here and I don't care who knows it. There are no reprisals on the internet
which can get anyone in trouble unless you are doing something illegal. One
should always stand behind their convictions unless they plan to waffle on them.
My real name is Goins and I stand behind my convictions regardless of who
disagrees with them.
quasi Report This Comment Date: September 19, 2007 12:49AM
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ORLANDO399 Report This Comment Date: September 19, 2007 04:07AM
and when you guys hit quasi's link,dont forget to vote on it
jgoins Report This Comment Date: September 19, 2007 11:57AM
Anonymous posters are either too cowardly to register or too lazy.
