Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: July 29, 2007 07:52AM

Make sure to check the list for Presidential Candidates, if they get in there they will re-push the Bill through, were the people you know that are going to vote for them for or against that Bill, you'd better let them know what's up.


Spread this very important information around.

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The Amnesty Bill Has Been Defeated. Now it’s time to punish anyone who voted for it.


By James Buchanan


The attempt to pass an Amnesty Bill for 20 million illegal aliens was such an incredible act of treason that we need to remember who voted for this abomination and remove each and every one of them from office. From this point onward, the 46 Senators who voted to destroy America as we know it and who attempted to turn it into a Third World cesspool, will be known as “The Amnesty Traitors.”

A massive grass roots campaign organized by patriots on the Internet and talk radio hosts inspired millions of Americans to lobby the Senate incessantly for over a month to kill the Amnesty Bill. These Senators knew exactly what their constituents wanted. There is no excuse. Every single one of these Senators deliberately ignored the will of the people and voted to betray America.

It is now our moral obligation to vote every one of these traitors out of office. Every time there is a primary or election from now until the purge is complete, we need to e-mail this list of “Amnesty Traitors” to all our friends and encourage them to forward the list to their friends.

Many of these Senators have grown old and arrogant. They have nothing but disrespect for ordinary Americans and they have committed the ultimate offense of supporting an amnesty for 20 million illegal aliens. They tried to destroy our home, and now we have a moral obligation to end their political careers.

The Amnesty Traitors

The following Senators voted “yes” on an amnesty for 20 million illegals.

1. Akaka (D-HI), Yea
2. Bennett (R-UT), Yea
3. Biden (D-DE), Yea
4. Boxer (D-CA), Yea
5. Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
6. Cardin (D-MD), Yea
7. Carper (D-DE), Yea
8. Casey (D-PA), Yea
9. Clinton (D-NY), Yea
10. Conrad (D-ND), Yea
11. Craig (R-ID), Yea
12. Dodd (D-CT), Yea
13. Durbin (D-IL), Yea
14. Feingold (D-WI), Yea
15. Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
16. Graham (R-SC), Yea
17. Gregg (R-NH), Yea
18. Hagel (R-NE), Yea
19. Inouye (D-HI), Yea
20. Kennedy (D-MA), Yea
21. Kerry (D-MA), Yea
22. Klobuchar (D-MN), Yea
23. Kohl (D-WI), Yea
24. Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
25. Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
26. Leahy (D-VT), Yea
27. Levin (D-MI), Yea
28. Lieberman (ID-CT), Yea
29. Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
30. Lott (R-MS), Yea
31. Lugar (R-IN), Yea
32. Martinez (R-FL), Yea
33. McCain (R-AZ), Yea
34. Menendez (D-NJ), Yea
35. Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
36. Murray (D-WA), Yea
37. Nelson (D-FL), Yea
38. Obama (D-IL), Yea
39. Reed (D-RI), Yea
40. Reid (D-NV), Yea
41. Salazar (D-CO), Yea
42. Schumer (D-NY), Yea
43. Snowe (R-ME), Yea
44. Specter (R-PA), Yea
45. Whitehouse (D-RI), Yea
46. Wyden (D-OR), Yea

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[www.buchanan.org]

shaDEz Report This Comment
Date: July 29, 2007 01:57PM

picture that if there were not any countries

Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: July 29, 2007 03:21PM

Time to temper that philosophy with some reality shaDEz ol buddy. There are and always will be numerous ideologies, religons, governmental philosophies and countries all over the globe.

The one you seem to have adopted of late has yet to have been proven out to be beneficial to anyone having lived under it for any serious length of time. Communism rewards the average yet never the excellent which is totally outside the realms of human nature. Communism is founded on the principal that everyone is equal which in the real world limits individual achievement and binds the hands of those who would otherwise be driven to strive for greatness.

As flawed as our current system is (to my way of thinking) it's still about the closest thing to utopia that exists govermentally in the world.

Tiw Report This Comment
Date: July 29, 2007 09:21PM

Very elegant MrKim but to my mind democracy is inherrently corrupting and flawed as well as poorly implemented.

fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: July 29, 2007 10:22PM

Democracy is 1000 times better than the alternatives though huh?



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Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: July 30, 2007 03:30AM

Tiw Wrote:
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> Very elegant MrKim but to my mind democracy is
> inherrently corrupting and flawed as well as
> poorly implemented.

Thanks for the kind compliment Tiw

I'm unsure that it's that democracy is inherently flawed or corrupt as much as it is the "power" side of being one at the top of the heap in a democracy which is still a bit less empowering than is a monarchy or a dictatorship all in all as there are typically more checks and balances within a democracy.

Poor implementation seems to abound within all forms of government

Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: July 30, 2007 04:07AM

Now then, back to the OP here, even if you ARE one of the nameless anons

In Texas both our senators voted in opposition to the amnesty bill but .... senator Kay Bailey Hutchison did vote yes in the 1st vote on the second rendering of the bill just as she did in the 1st round and then voted against in the final vote both times.

This type of waffling on such an important issue reeks of tryin to play both sides of the field and appease constituants on both sides of the issue to me. For that reason, eventhough she did vote against it in the final vote, it points up she's NOT the kind of person I want representing me as a Texan and I will help to vote her out in November!

The one thing NO politician is going to want to address in the upcoming campaign season is the immigration issue and their stance on it. The American public must FORCE these people to do so or a lot of incumbents and new legislative members will slip through the election process without stating their views !

I WILL NOT support anyone who wanted to mete out amnesty or American citizenship to the hoards of illegals here

Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: July 30, 2007 05:20AM

“Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms (of government) those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny”

-Thomas Jefferson


“I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.”

-Thomas Jefferson


“I hope our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us that the less we use our power the greater it will be.”

-Thomas Jefferson


“In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.”

-Thomas Jefferson quote


What it comes down to is, our free country would be fine if we just cleaned house every once in a while, "the people" in general are stupid because they just follow the scammers (politicians) around believing what they tell you and/or saying, "well, I picked the lesser of two evils, that's the best I can do".... if "the people" would come together as a whole and quit bickering over shit that doesn't really matter (divide and conquer), things could change. It's one thing to get all excited and talk about being proud and patriotic and really caring about this country, but, doing something is a another story.

You are nothing but slaves... slaves with the basics, but still slaves.

[video.google.com]

Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: July 30, 2007 05:30AM

The Amnesty Traitors

The following Senators voted “yes” on an amnesty for 20 million illegals.

1. Akaka (D-HI), Yea
2. Bennett (R-UT), Yea
3. Biden (D-DE), Yea
4. Boxer (D-CA), Yea
5. Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
6. Cardin (D-MD), Yea
7. Carper (D-DE), Yea
8. Casey (D-PA), Yea
9. Clinton (D-NY), Yea
10. Conrad (D-ND), Yea
11. Craig (R-ID), Yea
12. Dodd (D-CT), Yea
13. Durbin (D-IL), Yea
14. Feingold (D-WI), Yea
15. Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
16. Graham (R-SC), Yea
17. Gregg (R-NH), Yea
18. Hagel (R-NE), Yea
19. Inouye (D-HI), Yea
20. Kennedy (D-MA), Yea
21. Kerry (D-MA), Yea
22. Klobuchar (D-MN), Yea
23. Kohl (D-WI), Yea
24. Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
25. Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
26. Leahy (D-VT), Yea
27. Levin (D-MI), Yea
28. Lieberman (ID-CT), Yea
29. Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
30. Lott (R-MS), Yea
31. Lugar (R-IN), Yea
32. Martinez (R-FL), Yea
33. McCain (R-AZ), Yea
34. Menendez (D-NJ), Yea
35. Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
36. Murray (D-WA), Yea
37. Nelson (D-FL), Yea
38. Obama (D-IL), Yea
39. Reed (D-RI), Yea
40. Reid (D-NV), Yea
41. Salazar (D-CO), Yea
42. Schumer (D-NY), Yea
43. Snowe (R-ME), Yea
44. Specter (R-PA), Yea
45. Whitehouse (D-RI), Yea
46. Wyden (D-OR), Yea

Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: July 30, 2007 06:03AM

Watch this! This is the first time in history that I have seen or heard a guy talk to a Politician (Mayor) like this..... he tells them... "you better get ahold of your police department and you'd better get'em protecting our right of speech or we're gonna start killing people"


[www.youtube.com]

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: July 30, 2007 11:25AM

This form of government can work but it has little chance when so many are apethetic and refuse to get involved beyond talking with their friends. We must vote regardless of how we feel about the choices in the main election but we can choose not to vote in the primaries as a method of showing our displeasure with the choices. But not voting in the primaries will do no good if even a handfull of people vote because they will be choosing who is to run in the national. This is the only way to make a change short of an armed revolt in which many people would be killed.

arrectisauribus Report This Comment
Date: July 30, 2007 01:02PM

All the liberal bleeding hearts with their "human rights" have undermined democracies across the world. Short of revolution, I can't see them recovering. Here in the UK, we're swamped with immigrants, most of them legal, because our government is too weak to do anything about it.......it'll end in tears!

madmex2000 Report This Comment
Date: July 30, 2007 05:49PM

As A real mexican and half native American, and a bleeding heart liberal i am proud that you all feeel the way you do. Means were doing something right and the fact you feel like that means idiots like you are out of the loop. if you want a white country ,goto Germany ,beacause this is America, home of the native Americans and mexican by the spanish before your pasty face european ass showed up here. I LOVE hearing you whine and look foward to the day when you decide to do something about it with your KIA boy club. look at you now. MAKE A MOVE.
If you dont like America the way it is get the FUCK out. White women are all over the colored dick. LOL.

madmex

90130_ Report This Comment
Date: July 30, 2007 06:58PM

Don't worry.

It won't be long before the US military comes up with some virus that makes Mexicans sterile.

That'll fix you.

Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: July 31, 2007 01:22AM

Madnez you have undoubtedly gotta be one of the biggest dumbasses I've ever run across on the web .... and that says a lot!

1st of all if you hadn't been one of the "too cool for school" bunch and actually paid attention to somthin besides the size of your gym teachers package you would have learned a little about history in the time you spent in scholl & wouldn't have wound up lookin so stupid everytime you pull out your keeboard.

Here's a brief overview but at least it will put you on the right path for a start. This is gonna be kinda like a quickie version but it should help ...


Spain was the the 1st country to have ventured to the "new world" (this tutorial will leave out the previous trips here by the nordics since they didn't really settle here), followed by many other European countries soon after all vying for their own claim on the new real estate. One big difference was that Spain missed most of North America and began their conquest of Central and South America while the British and French perdominantly stayed in North America.

So, while the Spanish were off on their great quests for all the supposed gold they'd been told about and were busy killin off thousands of Central and South American indian tribes (yep that's right the Spanish roots you claim as part of your heritage was at one time killin off the other part of your heritage ... interesting isn't it ?) along the way they also laid a lot of pipe into all the hot native babes of the tribes the killed and conquered. This is where the eventual "Mexicans" came from as they were typically mixed breeds of the native indian tribes and the Spanish invaders.

Now this may strike you a bit hard since you seem to carry such disdain for the white people, but YOU have white blood in you too fucker! I'm sure you've never bothered to look around enough to see it but the Spanish are a WHITE race, so that means your Mexican roots you crow so loudly about and then dissavow the next day when you decide instead to focus on and yammer on and on about your Indian lineage, depending on your "stance of the day" (typical liberal waffling tactic BTW) are also part white ! Muahahahaha .... I bet that just sticks in your craw dudn it

Ok, so the Spanish are out wanderin around lookin for all this gold and the rest of Europe seems more interested in the wide expanses of land in North America so they set about bussily explorin and mappin it all out while the Spanish are busy with their BS.

So then as more and more of the Europeans started comin to North America the native indians became less and less accepting of the immigrants and the immingrants became less and less enamored with the indians, so the killing started.

Now I'm not proud of what happened to the native North American indian tribes but in truth it happened a long time before you or I were even a twinkle in anyones eye, or anyone still living today for that matter so it's all really kinda irrelevant as anything more than just history at this point. While I feel the native indians were really fucked over I don't feel one iota of guilt about it, anymore than you could reasonably harbor resentment for it either .... except that it seems to suit your twisted sense of reality and helps you to feel as if you have some victim card to play when that suits you too

Oh and just as a parting shot here, if you think either of your parents are 100% indian as you claim that's really VERY FUCKIN UNLIKELY ! There was and still is lots of fuckin goin on by the white folks since indian pussy was always well received as "sweet meat" even if it wasn't accepted publicly in this way in the old days.

BTW, we played Cowboys and Mescans here in Texas over 150 yrs ago and though the memories are old, we all remember how that turned out, even the Mescans !

History teaches us that a small band of Texans who were really just farmers got together and stomped Santa Annas ass along with his thousands of well armed troops and then marched into Mexico to make sure the rest of the dumb fuck Mescans understood exactly how the cow ate the cabbage.

So ... I hope you enjoyed your little history lesson there Madnez and BTW .... you're welcome

madmex2000 Report This Comment
Date: July 31, 2007 01:57AM

good history lesson, could'nt agree more. So stop that fukn whining about mexicans comeing across the border to steal our benifets.Who wants to squabble over scraps from the American dream. I grew up in the Imperal Valley,CA and know plenty, not that American History Version BS.The muther fukers wanna go back to Mexico ass well, but given a choice of not makeing it back,So to work 20 miles across the border to pack American Food,they have to stay. La Migra(border police)'doent care. Fukn Politics man..

Sir Duke Report This Comment
Date: July 31, 2007 03:25AM

America, home of the native Americans and mexican by the spanish before your pasty face european ass showed up here




hahahahaha if the pasty face europeans had not come here this country would be screwed up just like Mexico and all the other low IQ'd south American countries. The white man made this the greatest country on the face of the EARTH!!

How many U.S. citizens are trying to get into Mexico????
The stupid brown turds screw up everything they touch. And they will screw this country up also!!

fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: July 31, 2007 04:22AM

the world is nothing but conquering societies.
how far in time do you want to go back to verify territorial possession?



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Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: July 31, 2007 06:11AM

Here, I'll solve this........ at least as far as you religious freaks go you know damn well that everyone in the world came from the same family so how can you be so cruel to all those people that have the same great, great, great, great, great,great, great, great, great, great,great, great, great, great, great,great, great, great, great, great-grandparents, Adam and Eve, what a shame! Daaaaaaaa......

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: July 31, 2007 10:32AM

Yes, it was Mexicans who screwed up Mexico so that their people come here for a good life, supposedly. Maybe they are not looking for a better life, maye they are a preinvasion force sent here by Mexico to implant themselves here and wait for the invasion to begin. They are buying and stealing weapons now so the invasion is not far off. Hopefully the "great holy war" of Islam will begin first, then we can thin out the Mexicans here at the same time, oops sorry, thought you were Islamic. Mexicans and Arabs all look alike through the sights of a gun.

Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: July 31, 2007 01:53PM

The problem of illegal immigration by all the thieving, drunk driving, social services robbing, overpopulating, low IQ posessing, low job skill posessing Mescans coming illegally into our country like the thieves in the night that they are is one far too complicated for one so simple minded as yourself to ever grasp madnez.

Livin 20 miles across the border? You're so full of shit no wonder your eyes are brown

I'll wager that one of these times the Mescans get on their public high horse and start one of their "I demand my rights" demonstrations all while chanting "Fuck America" at the same time you'll get a really good idea of just what America in general thinks of their demands and commentary. One of these rallies is just bound to turn out as a blood bath and we'll again wind up playin round 2 of Cowboys and Mescans. If you think round 2 will be any different than the 1st round was then you are really even dumber than I had previously believed.

The American public is tired of supportin Mexico and all the POS fuckers that have continued to stream across our borders illegally, but public displays of their disdain for America have just about reached the point where the blood letting is just around the corner. Best keep that in mind madnez

madmex2000 Report This Comment
Date: July 31, 2007 03:35PM

I count on it you pussy....

Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: July 31, 2007 06:31PM

Madmex, if you were on the street right there in this video what would you have done?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oqifZhAs-Q&mode=rela ted&search=

Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: July 31, 2007 06:42PM

Mexican Terrorists...... why doesn't Bush do anything about these Terrorists, why does he encourage it?! Look at the group in this video, they are anti-American!

[www.youtube.com]

Sir Duke Report This Comment
Date: July 31, 2007 10:28PM

There is more bad news for us Americans. As Mexico's national IQ is about 87 and judging from the past experience, we don't even get average intelligent Mexicans with the current wave of mass "migration", the U.S. national average IQ of about 108 will continue to decline because IQ is very highly inheritable. This phenomenon is known under the name of dysgenic fertility and it takes place when segments of population with below average IQ exhibit above average fertility. As a result, the average productivity will drop, as will average workers' skills. The high school dropout rate will increase, though, unless academic standards are further watered-down. Health care costs are likely to soar as low IQ has a strong statistical correlation with person's unhealthy lifestyle and a lack of self-care. For instance, prevailing obesity that disproportionately targets residents with below average IQ, will add tens of thousands of dollars to a bypass surgery cost to the statistical insured. For similar reasons, crime rates will grow as criminal activity is strongly correlated with low IQ.

Let's stop the insanity! Close the borders, shoot to kill!!
We need to flush out all the illegal low IQ'd brown turds, and make this Country strong and great once more. Wake up citizens of the United States, these illegals are screwing everything up that our fathers, our grandfathers, our great-grandfathers our great-great grandfathers built!

Call me a racist.....I'm not! Call me a biggot.....I'm not, just call me a concerned citizen, a proud citizen of the Greatest Country on Earth!!


"Life is hard; it's harder if you're stupid.”-----John Wayne

Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: August 01, 2007 03:43AM

When you call a company and they give Spanish Operator/Recordings, complain, the language in the US is English any and every other immigrant that has entered this country has had to learn our language, when you start kissing their ass you encourage them to come here illegally.

Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: August 01, 2007 03:46AM

Globalism

By Rep. Ron Paul - July 16, 2007

The recent defeat of the amnesty bill in the Senate came after outraged Americans made it clear to the political elite that they would not tolerate this legislation, which would further erode our national sovereignty. Similarly, polls increasingly show the unpopularity of the Iraq war, as well as of the Congress that seems incapable of ending it.

Because some people who vocally oppose amnesty are supportive of the war, the ideological connection between support of the war and amnesty is often masked. If there is a single word explaining the reasons why we continue to fight unpopular wars and see legislation like the amnesty bill nearly become law, that word is “globalism.”

The international elite, including many in the political and economic leadership of this country, believe our constitutional republic is antiquated and the loyalty Americans have for our form of government is like a superstition, needing to be done away with. When it benefits elites, they pay lip service to the American way, even while undermining it.

We must remain focused on what ideology underlies the approach being taken by those who see themselves as our ruling-class, and not get distracted by the passions of the moment or the rhetorical devices used to convince us how their plans will be “good for us.” Whether it is managed trade being presented under the rhetoric of “free trade,” or the ideas of “regime change” abroad and “making the world safe for democracy” — the underlying principle is globalism.

Although different rhetoric is used in each instance, the basic underlying notion behind replacing regimes abroad and allowing foreign people to come to this country illegally is best understood by comprehending this ideal of the globalist elite. In one of his most lucid moments President Bush spoke of the “soft bigotry of low expectations.” Unfortunately, that bigotry is one of the core tenets at the heart of the globalist ideology.

The basic idea is that foreigners cannot manage their own affairs so we have to do it for them. This may require sending troops to far off lands that do not threaten us, and it may also require “welcoming with open arms” people who come here illegally. All along globalists claim a moral high ground, as if our government is responsible for ensuring the general welfare of all people. Yet the consequences are devastating to our own taxpayers, as well as many of those we claim to be helping.

Perhaps the most seriously damaged victim of this approach is our own constitutional republic, because globalism undermines both the republican and democratic traditions of this nation. Not only does it make a mockery of the self-rule upon which our republic is based, it also erodes the very institutions of our republic and replaces them with international institutions that are often incompatible with our way of life.

The defeat of the amnesty bill proves though that there is no infallible logic, or predetermined march of history, that forces globalism on us.

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: August 01, 2007 11:11AM

The day for blood letting will soon be at hand. The only question remaining is who will be the one who start it? Will it be the Islamic people who start their great holy war or will it be the Mexicans who begin their military invasion of America? We are being targeted by both groups as their enemies. Possibly they are working together but one of these factors will be the start of it. When it begins it will require more than just our military to fight it, we will all have to take arms to protect our way of life. The illegals are acquiring weapons now either by purchase at yard sales or fleamarkets or by theft from homes and business both of which are illegal. We need to arm ourselves as well, but by legal means. We no longer have a Sam Houston or Davey Crocket and the Alamo will not be the bastion for this war. We have become too politically correct and this war will be devastating because of it. We will not lose but many will die.