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No more arguments - It's time to ban the guns

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No more arguments - It's time to ban the guns

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pro_junior Report This Comment
Date: October 03, 2017 01:19PM

We have plenty of gun laws, and this guy broke them...so what good are laws?
Don't forget, murder is illegal as well...
Rabbit Report This Comment
Date: October 04, 2017 01:28AM

Fuck the gun laws. Take away the guns and no one can fire them.
And for those wanting guns to defend themselves, use capsicum spray instead.
You can't murder people with that shit.
And if you still don't like that, then move to another country where stuff like this doesn't happen so often, if at all.
Only in America, again.
pulse Report This Comment
Date: October 04, 2017 01:32AM

Queue "guns don't kill people" and "criminals will still get guns" response.

You're wasting your time, it'll keep happening, because America allows it to.
Rabbit Report This Comment
Date: October 04, 2017 04:43AM

And queue the "only America can fix America" and "Yes we can" responses because they can.
It's the Repulicunts who have constantly blocked changes to the constitution, indirectly causing ALL of these gun related mass killings
because they need the NRA's vote to stay powerful.
You don't need guns for mass murder, you can use trucks, airplanes or a van full of fertilizer, just ask the towel heads and Timothy McVeigh
but it's one huge mothafuckin' step in the right direction. You can't pull a trigger if there's no trigger to pull.

There will always be the criminal element but remember this guy wasn't a criminal. Reducing the risk is better than not changing anything at all.
quasi Report This Comment
Date: October 04, 2017 05:25AM

Short of a magic wand that will make them all disappear guns are here to stay in this country because of the sheer number of them out there already. Regardless of what other laws are passed these things will continue to happen. In this case, a wealthy guy who for whatever reason flipped out, no amount of laws would have made a difference, he could have bought whatever he wanted.
rabbit Report This Comment
Date: October 04, 2017 07:03AM

Yes Quasi and for that very reason alone, it's not going to do any further damage to just ban the fucking things altogether,
making them all illegal and put in place some seriously harsh penalties other than sending these guys to jail, filling up an
already overloaded prison system. Not doing anything is just as criminal as the act we all just witnessed, again.

There's no perfect answer for this, as this bloke killed himself anyway but some extreme measures need to be put into action
to at least have a chance of deterring some of these guys. At least have a go.
quasi Report This Comment
Date: October 04, 2017 07:11AM

Sorry, I'm not in favor of criminalizing the millions of law abiding citizens like me who own guns and do no harm. Look how well banning drugs has worked out.
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: October 04, 2017 08:29AM

How are you going to get guns from gangs who all have them and all the survivalists who have them just to mention a couple? Would you have the military go door to door breaking them down and searching, killing anyone who objects? Exactly who is it that obeys laws. Out of all the hundreds of millions of guns owned in this country how many of them have been uses for mass murder? In the past 20 years gun ownership has doubled but murders have dropped by about half. If we change the 2nd amendment, how long before the 1st amendment gets repealed? Do you want to set Trump up as a dictator never to be voted out, you really like him that much?
pulse Report This Comment
Date: October 04, 2017 08:46AM

Right on queue
rabbit Report This Comment
Date: October 04, 2017 10:17AM

"Sorry, I'm not in favor of criminalizing the millions of law abiding citizens like me who own guns and do no harm. Look how well banning drugs has worked out."

Again Quasi, exactly my point. It hasn't gone far enough. Dissolve the NRA and ban civilians from owning firearms and you won't need to be one of the millions of law abiding citizens who need to own firearms. How can you guarantee that you won't flip out in the future and go on a shooting spree? " I don't want to give people that kind of convenience any longer. If you don't have the guns, you can't fire them. Sure, you could use something else but it sure as shit won't be as convenient as a firearm.

Also you may not have been paying attention to how other countries are dealing with their drug problems but as much as everyone is disagreeing with the
"dictatorship" style of the Filipino president - he's got everyone who's against illicit drugs on his side and the illegal drug industry is dying, along with all the dealers from the top to the bottom. It's an extremely aggressive way of dealing with the problem BUT HE IS DEALING WITH IT! America has to do the same if it's going to avoid self imploding.

Whether you like Jimmy Kimmel or not - he is right on the money;
“The Senate Majority Leader, Mitch McConnell, the Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan, a number of other lawmakers who won’t do anything about this because the N.R.A. has their balls in a money clip, also sent their thoughts and their prayers today. Which is good. They should be praying. They should be praying for God to forgive them for letting the gun lobby run this country.”

How sad it is when a comedian has to be the one to tell Americas political truth - The real State of the Nation speech came from a late night compare. God help us all.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 04, 2017 11:05AM

it is a Constitutional right and the odds of it being repealed or otherwise is astrofuckinnominal
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 04, 2017 11:08AM

*tongue sticking out smily*



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/10/2017 11:09AM by fossil_digger.
rabbit Report This Comment
Date: October 04, 2017 11:26AM

Not if the NRA is dissolved Fossil. Sheesh, going back a few years, who would've thought that America would not only have it's first black president
but then Donald Trump to follow??? This definitely indicates that anything is possible - including changing the constitution.
The time has come, sadly at the cost of both the murderers and their victims.
Loner Report This Comment
Date: October 04, 2017 12:08PM

How are you going to dissolve the NRA, rabbit?
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 04, 2017 03:50PM

i surely hope that you don't think a dump of the NRA will happen under a Schlump regime?

that would put you a few levels below 'ole Beastie.
Loner Report This Comment
Date: October 04, 2017 04:23PM

Trump, Schlump, Dump, it doesn't matter. How? How, would anyone dissolve the NRA?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/10/2017 04:24PM by Loner.
quasi Report This Comment
Date: October 04, 2017 05:57PM

I think it's more about the GOP constituents than it is the NRA. Try taking the guns away from them and there will be another civil war in this country.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: October 04, 2017 06:32PM

rabbit is such a smart guy and has all the answers so here ya go rabbit, without googling the answers please explain the steps, processes and requirements involved in amending the US Constitution.

Just to help ya on the way to enlightened nirvana, the NRA has no hand in the process.

Nah, never mind, consider it a rhetorical question. In reality I don't give 2 shits what anyone outside this country thinks about our citizens, culture or laws anyway (*finger3*)

smoking
smiley
Loner Report This Comment
Date: October 04, 2017 06:39PM

That's kind of where I was trying to direct the conversation, "Take away". That would mean that the government would be taking away the firearms. That is why the 2nd Amendment exists. Don't forget why we separated from the King. We were being taxed to pay off one of England's wars. We didn't like that much.
And when we pushed back the King enforced the tax with troops. Tyranny. The 2nd Amendment is not about hunting rifles. It's about that we've been there and were not going back.
I suppose that rabbit would prefer that we did the same thing that Europe did. Because no one uses weapons to murder the masses there.
Here's a paper on fixing mass shootings:
[fivethirtyeight.com]
...the article that referenced it:
[www.msn.com];
...and a quick Wiki on Lists of massacres in Australia:
[en.wikipedia.org]
I'm always wary of statistics; how the data is gathered and analyzed, and how people just throw out cherry picked figures. But, knowing nothing is worse.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/10/2017 06:43PM by Loner.
rabbit Report This Comment
Date: October 05, 2017 04:01AM

Here's your answer Mirkim. What a shame it's gotta come from comedians and TV compares
rather than the people who are being paid to run the fucking country.

[www.youtube.com]
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: October 05, 2017 07:44AM

False information of Kimmel or outright lies?

[www.breitbart.com]

There is only one way to eliminate all guns in the US and there is no such thing as magic. A buyback would not get all guns owned by everyone. Do you propose that we use our military to go to every house kick the door down and search for them killing everyone who objects? Do you understand what all this talk of taking guns does to the gun industry? The last time this happened gun ownership doubled and by the way in the last 20 years murders have dropped by about half. I guess thinking isn't a skill those on the left know how to exorcise.



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fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 05, 2017 10:22AM

why do people insist on using stats from their country with ridiculous gun control laws?

let's use your logic IN THE UNITED STATES.....name the murder capital cities in the U.S. now check their gun laws, they have the largest murder rates in the country. gun control has never worked here, and it never will, so don't bother regurgitating stats that have absolutely nothing to do with the U.S.
what works in Australia (which does not have extremely invasive foreign and domestic laws and policies) will not work in....say New Zealand or any other country, it's plain and simple disinformation.
pulse Report This Comment
Date: October 05, 2017 10:54PM

Sure. It's called shutting the gate after the horse has bolted.
rabbit Report This Comment
Date: October 06, 2017 02:16AM

For those who say that the gun control "logic" of other countries won't work in the US can't actually say that.
Because the US government has never tried it in the first place - ever - so you speak an unfounded truth.

Try it first. At least give it some kind of a go. Saying "Banning guns will never work" is cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Because you don't actually know that. Australia is still the record holder for the biggest one off shooting massacre in the world (Port Arthur 1996)
After which, the government banned the guns and guess what? Haven't had one since. Other shit has happened since but no mass shootings.
All I'm saying is other governments have tried many different ways of dealing with it whereas the US, to date, has not. Hence, the mass shootings keep happening.

What's happening with gun control in the US affects us all around the world. Stopping the copycat behavior means going to the source of the problem.
As I said before - You can't pull the trigger if there's no trigger to pull. We're talking harm minimization here. Not a complete fix cause that will never happen.
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: October 06, 2017 07:39AM

We don't try it here for a very good reason, we have a constitution that protects the people. If we tried to ban guns then we would also have to change the search and seizure laws and remove free speech as well. I do know there are some here who want to remove the entire constitution but fortunately they are in the minority. The rest of the world has no right to dictate to us what our laws should be.

Seeing as how the police can't do anything to get rid of inner city gangs, how are they going to remove their guns? What about all the survivalist with their compounds and arsenals? What about the average Joe who owns a gun but objects to giving it up, do we just break his door down, kill him and take his gun? The last time something like this happened that started the ban guns talk it increased gun sales dramatically, I really wish I was in gun sales right now I would be getting rich.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 06, 2017 09:30AM

"For those who say that the gun control "logic" of other countries won't work in the US can't actually say that.
Because the US government has never tried it in the first place - ever - so you speak an unfounded truth."

does that same logic not apply to you and your country's laws?

take a look at Sweden. they make it mandatory to have a gun and look at their murder rate......lowest in the world, so by your own logic, you are wrong.
thanks for playing and your complimentary cruise is in the next office. LOL



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pulse Report This Comment
Date: October 06, 2017 08:02PM

Who the fuck told you that?

[www.sweden.org.za]

You can get them. It's not hard. But it's certainly not mandatory.

So what you're saying then is Americans are inherently violent if other countries can get guns and don't shoot up the place? Then hand that man a gun! smiling
smiley
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 06, 2017 10:00PM

sorry, that's Switzerland
rabbit Report This Comment
Date: October 07, 2017 03:21AM

Yeah Fossil, there's an age old saying that applies to you.
It says "Think before you speak"
You don't want "shoot yourself in the foot" do you now?
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 07, 2017 11:28AM

brain said Switzerland, and fingers did whatthefuck they wanted. sad smiley