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BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: October 26, 2013 02:25PM

Just a matter of time.
Mach Report This Comment
Date: October 26, 2013 02:49PM

The fact that this is on Fox News is, in itself, a sign.

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: October 27, 2013 07:20AM

yes, legalize and tax pot just the same way as booze and possibly our national debt would disappear.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: October 27, 2013 08:47AM

With the never satiated "tax and spend" nature of govt. that'll never happen.

The US govt was once debt free and amazingly, at that time had NO federal taxation of the citizens. Fast forward to today where direct and indirect taxation of the citizens numbers in the hundreds of taxes levied and we're deeper in debt than ever, with no end in sight for getting deeper still.

Giving the govt more money will never be the right answer (headexplode)

bayerischer dorfdepp Report This Comment
Date: October 27, 2013 02:07PM

hmm looks like i live in the wrong country.
i want to be a ganja farmer. ganja makes me so happy !!
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: October 28, 2013 08:30AM

But a lot of people are saying Clinton got rid of our debt, I don't believe it but other people do.
pulse Report This Comment
Date: October 28, 2013 09:28AM

Defecit yes, but not debt.

In 2000, the US made $280bn profit, but still owed 50% of GDP in debt.

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: October 29, 2013 08:01AM

I wish I could spend money I don't have like the government. I still think if we vote all incumbents out of office it would send a message. Trying to get all Americans to agree on anything will be impossible.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: October 29, 2013 01:00PM

Get a credit card.

You have to replace those voted out with people voted in. The choices will still be limited to the pool of politicians available to run for office. They are all of the same ilk; they are politicians. In other words it isn't going to make any difference in the long run.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 29/10/2013 05:49PM by BlahX3.
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: October 30, 2013 06:23AM

But if we keep replacing them at every election they should get the idea. Until the internet can be used to allow us to make the decisions this is what we are stuck with.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: October 30, 2013 09:45AM

The internet?!? You are a total moron!
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: October 31, 2013 06:36AM

There would have to be some way for all individuals to make the decisions before we would ever be able to do away with representatives and politicians.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: October 31, 2013 10:26AM

You are not capable of understanding some basic things about government nor the internet.
pro_junior Report This Comment
Date: October 31, 2013 03:19PM

He doesn't understand macaroni...
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: November 01, 2013 07:36AM

I you guys are just trying to piss me off, it ain't gonna happen. I never get angry no matter what anyone says to me or about me online. I also never get angry in reality either, I just wait for the right time and cut them off at the knees.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: November 01, 2013 12:06PM

I can't speak for PJ but I couldn't care less if you got pissed off or not. You are obviously too stupid to comprehend that when you post stupid comments online someone will reply that you are stupid.
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: November 02, 2013 07:00AM

I think stupid comments are like when you guys say all politicians are crooked and evil and the current system needs to be changed. Making statements like that without offering any alternatives is stupid. At least I was trying to think of some way to do away with the current method of government decision making. We cannot just get rid of our politicians without putting something in it's place.

Stupid statements, like beauty, are in the eyes of the beholder. In the past people thought ideas of a round world were stupid ideas. I don't care if you guys think I am stupid or not I will continue to make whatever comments I desire. I am not in this world to please other people and I am at the age to where I just don't care.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: November 02, 2013 11:33AM

I do not recall ever saying that, at least not exactly. I expect politicians to be corrupt, some more so than others, that's part of the gig. I don't expect that to change and I think it is pointless to bitch and play blame games about it. I also think it is dumb to hold fantasies that someone sometime in the past was some super Jesus of leaders and that the "founding fathers" were some kind of holy beings or that the US constitution is a holy writ. As forms of government go it's pretty damn good but nothing sacred or perfect.
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: November 03, 2013 06:04AM

OK if we do away with our constitution and get rid of our military and all our privately own guns then what's to stop some other country from walking in and taking over? What's to stop some president from deciding to become a dictator? If our Bill of Rights or the Constitution are no longer enforced or protected then what would happen to our rights as free individuals? It is bad enough that so many of our rights are being taken away right now, what will we do when they are all gone?
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: November 03, 2013 10:39AM

I do not advocate any of that and I have never stated that I did. I don't think any of that is going to happen. I think you are over-reacting and your fears are basically unfounded and exaggerated. I'm not saying things don't need to or won't change, but the changes will not be as dramatic as the media tries to paint it, nor as dramatic as some people fear it is or will be.
Mach Report This Comment
Date: November 03, 2013 11:34PM

A downright classic......


Realize that "illegal drugs" are just as much of a MARKET to Law Enforcement as drug cartels, gangs etc... etc...

they don't want you to take away their booty either! drinking
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: November 04, 2013 08:20AM

I don't think we should legalize all drugs, just pot, but maybe we shouldn't go after drug users so hot and heavy. I think we should do away with all laws which were enacted to try and curtail things that never harmed other people IE seatbelts. Laws should only be used to prevent harm done to people by other people never when someone does something which may or may not cause harm to themselves. It could be said that drugs harm other people when drug users rob and steal to get their drugs so doing away with drugs will prevent the crimes peripherally associated with drugs. Then in the same sense maybe we should do away with knives forks and spoons because they may or may not cause obesity.
Leroy Brown Report This Comment
Date: November 04, 2013 11:35PM


Rise of the Warrior Cop by Radley Balko

Posted by Darby Beck

Friday, July 5, 2013

In his new book, Rise of the Warriror Cop, Radley Balko provides a detailed history of our decline into a police state.

He works his way through this history in a sound way describing police raid upon police raid gone terribly wrong, resulting in a useless loss of life. He discusses police agencies that serve populations of only 1,000 people but receive federal funding for military-type weapons and tank-style vehicles. We have also seen a total disregard for “The Castle Doctrine” which has been held dear by our citizens since the colonial days. The “Castle Doctrine” is the idea that a man’s home is his castle and a warrant signed by a judge is necessary to enter and search the “castle.” Balko cogently explains the reason for all of this: The war on drugs and the war on terror are really wars on our own people.

A profession that I was once proud to serve in has become a militarized police state. Officers are quicker to draw their guns and use their tanks than to communicate with people to diffuse a situation. They love to use their toys and when they do, people die.

The days of the peace officer are long gone, replaced by the militarized police warrior wearing uniforms making them indistinguishable from military personnel. Once something is defined as a “war” everyone becomes a “warrior.” Balko offers solutions ranging from ending the war on drugs, to halting mission creep so agencies such as the Department of Education and the FDA don’t have their own SWAT teams, to enacting transparency requirements so that all raids are reported and statistics kept, to community policing, and finally to one of the toughest solutions: changing police culture.

Police culture has gone from knocking on someone’s door to ask him to come to the station house, to knocking on a door to drag them to the stationhouse, to a full SWAT raid on a home.

Two quotes from the HBO television series The Wire apply quite appropriately to this situation.

"This drug thing, this ain't police work. Soldiering and police, they ain't the same thing."

"You call something a war and pretty soon everyone's gonna’ be running around acting like warriors. They're gonna’ be running around on a damn crusade, storming corners, slapping on cuffs and racking up body counts. And when you're at war you need a f**king enemy. And pretty soon damn near everybody on every corner's your f**king enemy. And soon the neighborhood you're supposed to be policing, that's just occupied territory."
Mach Report This Comment
Date: November 04, 2013 11:45PM

Like I said, it's a fighting market, this retired officer (Lieutenant Commander) let's you know who's fighting (lobbying) to keep the budget flooded with..... "drug money."



Press release: Police arrest more people for marijuana than for all violent crime combined

Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: November 05, 2013 06:32AM

It's a helluva lot easier to arrest a bunch of people is search of twinkies and somethin to drink than it is real criminals out to do harm to society. 'Sides, they get great fringe benefits like cars, homes (and their furnishings), cash <- lots of which disappears better than in a David Copperfield illusion trick and then rake in tons more from court fees, probation fees, while the judges buddies in the counseling racket get paid handsomely too.

Saddest of all, we actually hafta pay for these fuckers to do this to us all in the name of "protecting" us (*facepalm*)

pulse Report This Comment
Date: November 05, 2013 06:42AM

I seriously don't understand people who complain about seat belt laws. "OMG they're taking my freedom, it's my choice man!"

Ok. So go die in a crash. Nobody else cares, but talk about your pissant weakass whinges..

I've been in a car accident. I'm more than happy to wear a seat belt. It's nothing to do with freedom, it's basic fucking common sense.
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: November 05, 2013 07:50AM

I have been in several car accidents and the seatbelts did no good at all. Avoiding accidents is the answer not forcing people to do something that only affects them and no one else. If I choose not to wear one then that should be on me not the government, just the same as if I choose to at fast food joints. Personal choice should only be be governed if your choices affects others and not just yourself.

I live in a small town and really don't see a police state forming yet but I do believe it is coming and more so after Odamna declares martial law which may be coming shortly.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: November 05, 2013 09:13AM

Seriously, it is very hard not to keep calling you a fucking idiot.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: November 05, 2013 09:39AM

As one of the very few people alive today who can honestly say that's only because I waddn wearin a seat belt in a horrendous crash I was in, I despise bein made to wear the damned things. Had I been wearin one I'd have been decapitated by the steering wheel instead of just slammin the right side of my face into the dash.

An awesome plastic surgeon took care of the damage to my shattered cheek bone and eye socket, along with another stellar orthopedic surgeon who put my mangled left ankle and right foot back together, but there's not a doctor on the planet that could have reattached my severed head spinning
smiley sticking its tongue out

BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: November 05, 2013 10:34AM

I seriously doubt that a steering wheel could decapitate a human being.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: November 05, 2013 10:59AM

Man, it's so awesome to have someone on here so wise that they can make sight unseen determinations about an accident they have absolutely no details of, even when the cops and ambulance drivers who dragged me outta the car along with my doctors all made statements to the contrary.

I hope one day to be as wise as the all knowing blah. Maybe if I schedule a full frontal lobotomy I can speed up that process (*butt*)

BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: November 05, 2013 11:50AM

I could state the same kind of opinions about you. I think you are generally full of shit. I also think you're a delusional ego-maniac and extremely narrow minded and you think you are absolutely right about everything.

Now I am sure that colliding with the steering wheel with enough force would definitely cause blunt force damages but a steering wheel is not sharp enough to actually cut someone's head off. With enough force and at the right angle of impact it could crush someone's neck to the point that they might as well have been decapitated but I don't think it is physically capable of actually severing the head from the body, which is what decapitation means.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: November 05, 2013 02:12PM

I get it man, I get it. Although you weren't there, nor have any clues to what happened, you still profess to know more than the professionals who were, I got that.

Since you seem to think I'm all ass, no need to pick a spot, you can just mooch all over my fluffy white ass (*butt*)

Mach Report This Comment
Date: November 05, 2013 03:22PM

Time for a plus613 cage match........

wars fighting
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: November 05, 2013 03:52PM

What you got was something you created in your own mind, not something I said. I did not profess to know more than the professionals who were there, I stated an opinion concerning the feasibility of decapitating a human being with a steering wheel. Neither did I state that I think you're all ass. Read the words themselves brainiac, don't read into it meanings that aren't there.
pulse Report This Comment
Date: November 05, 2013 06:55PM

Conversely, I & others I know have been involved in accidents where the only thing that saved us, and years of facial reconstructive surgery were seat belts.

It's all well and good to say that the key to not needing a seatbelt is to avoid an accident. Thank you captain obvious. If that were possible though, there'd be no accidents. Nobody (well, very few people) are driving around trying to get into an accident.

It's also impossible to avoid an accident where on a blind intersection somebody sails through a stop sign and you plow into the side of them at 70mph. This shit happens, it's unavoidable sometimes. And if you think a seatbelt won't help you in that instance, you're insane. Flying through the windscreen and bouncing down the road at that speed isn't something I fancy doing. Nor is being thrown from the car and having it roll over the top of me. Or even smashing my face into the dashboard at that kind of velocity. I'd rather a couple of broken ribs.

Furthermore, it DOES have an impact on others. Family. Friends. A&E crews. Do you think peeling your carcass off a nearby tree isn't going to fuck with the guy who has to do it? Serious injuries take beds from hospitals, take surgeons from people who need them, make insurance premiums go up for everybody. Do you think the next 40 years of care and being fed through a tube isn't going to cost an insurance company, or the government, a fuckload of money? Imagine all the people that need to be involved, from family and friends wiping your ass to the nurses that are being distracted from others who could've used them.

What do you think that does to everybody else?

The fact that you're inconsiderate enough to think your actions don't affect others astounds me. I can't stand people who only think about themselves.
pro_junior Report This Comment
Date: November 05, 2013 10:01PM

Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: November 05, 2013 10:17PM

Meh, don't get your knickers in such a knot pulse, it'll make your nutz hurt.

Having heard all the stats, I know my accident was an anomaly, but let's also start off by saying when it occurred, wearing a seat belt waddn even mandatory yet and that most people at that time chose not to wear them either. What a selfish society eh?

After workin for 3 months without a day off, while averagin about 11 hrs a day, and still tryin to keep up with the typical 20yr old bachelors party schedule on top of that, one mornin on my way TO work, I fell asleep at the wheel.

During my unplanned nap the freeway made a curve and I didn. I ran off the freeway at an estimated 60-70mph and slammed into a 6" thick concrete culvert facing with dirt behind it. The culvert facing came out of it amazingly well,

All in all several things worked in my favor that morning.

From my tracks it looked like I must've woken up about 100' before smackin the wall because I made a veer to the right to try and get onto the service road to the freeway that ran parallel to it. That change in trajectory was enough that I only hit the culvert facing with the drivers side of the front end of the car instead of hitting it head on, which likely would have made a more severe impact and problee launched me through the windshield.

Managing as I did to only hit the end of the culvert facing where it was relatively short, it was just tall enough to cream the whole front end from dead center in the front end and just below the hood all the way over to the drivers side end of the bumper.

It looked like you'd taken the car and literally planed it off flat from the center of the front end to where the drivers door started. Comically enough, the hood was still standing out there straight as an arrow.

The car managed to slide up over the top of the culvert facing after knockin off about a 2' X 8" X 6" thick chunk of the wall and hurlin it about 100' forward. Since I'd hit a glancing blow the car also spun around about 180 degrees, which is what slammed the right side of my face into the heater controls and radio in the center of the dash, amazingly that was another stroke of luck for me.

The whole planing off the front end of the drivers side of the car and sliding over the top of the concrete wall also folded the drivers front wheel up completely flat (horizontal) just under where my seat was.Then as the bottom edge of the car slid over the top of the wall it had folded the cars sheet metal back on itself till the metal under the drivers door looked like wadded up tin foil.

During the milliseconds or so all this took place in as the front drivers wheel came backwards, the steering wheel came up to an almost horizontal position, and this is the part where not having a seat belt on saved my life. Had I been wearing one I would have slammed my neck directly into the steering wheel instead of making a sideways run at it.

Both cops, both ambulance drivers and my doctors all agreed had I had a belt on there would have been a good chance the impact on my neck at that speed would likely have snapped my head off the end of my neck and then sent it flyin through the windshield, uh .... windscreen for you down under and euro cats.

Now then, let's take blahs perspective that he knows better than all the pros in this case and we'll say if I'd have had a seat belt on it would only have snapped my neck like a twig.

In this scenario problee the best I could have hoped for would have been I'd somehow miraculously have survived, but in all likelihood would also have been a quadriplegic.

So, being selfish and careless with my own safety managed to in all likelihood have saved my life, or at the very least kept me from having to have someone else wipe my ass for me for the rest of my days.

BTW, as a hint at just how violent the impact was when I smacked the wall, there was a big ol ceramic beer stein sized coffee mug sittin in the back seat that flew forward hittin the back of the passengers seat ... all that was left of it was a small pile of dust in the floor board, not even so much as the thick handle survived. And, in the whole planing off trick with the front end, the floor board on my side didn make it out the other side still bein flat. It folded backwards along with the rest of the bottom of the car so that just to the left of the gas pedal is where the new side of the car started and also what mangled up my feet.

After 9 days in the hospital, which included 2 surgeries, one on my face and the other on my shattered left ankle, then a month in a hospital bed and a wheel chair with casts on both legs, another month with a single walkin cast and crutches, and finally about 3 weeks of walkin with just crutches I was walking on my own again, without even a limp once I completely healed up, and was outta work for a total of 4 months.

I KNOW I was lucky, but I also know I'm here today because of that luck, and .... because I didn wear my fuckin seat belt (*horse*)


Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/11/2013 10:33PM by Mrkim.
pulse Report This Comment
Date: November 06, 2013 03:06AM

The selfish comment wasn't aimed at you. Reading your story though, that sounds like a total fluke & 99 times in 100 you'd have come out better with a seatbelt on. Or probably dead regardless.

I know there's exceptions, however I also believe that seatbelts prevent a lot more minor accidents than yours yours becoming a fatality.

My point is there's a hell of a lot of good reasons to wear them and I really can't think of one not to. And those laws have nothing at all to do with controlling personal freedoms and everything to do with reducing the road toll and accident cleanup bills.

And hell. Maybe it's just because I drive too fast and hard into the corners, and I don't want to he thrown around the cabin. Either way it all works for me.
woberto Report This Comment
Date: November 06, 2013 05:20AM

I crashed my bike but my spaghetti strainer saved me.
Becoming a Pastafarian really did change my life.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: November 06, 2013 06:48AM

Yeah pulse, I agree it was a fluke that not wearin a belt lead to a better outcome for me, And yeah, no one who ever saw the car afterwards thought it looked like anyone would have survived, though thankfully I did.

It was really an odd looking mess of a car afterwards. If you approached the car from behind it all you could see was a 3" buckle in the front of the roof line by the windshield, but once you got a look at it from the front, it was like "Holy sheep shit Bat Man! How'd I manage to survive that?".

As an admitted adrenaline junkie who also loves to square off corners at the highest rate of speed the suspension, tires and traction will allow, I always wear my belt when doing so, but I still despise the idea of being forced by law to do so moody

'Berto, while recuperating I had lotsa time to ponder why I managed to live through somethin it would seem I shouldn't have and, oh yeah, I heard numerous times about how "God must have a plan for you" and "It just wasn't Gods plan for you to die". Admittedly it did make me wonder and in those days I was strugglin off and on about the whole concept of God and faith.

It would be many years later before I heartily embraced the flyin spaghetti monster, but now don my strainer with pride before entering the Pastafarian temple rock on

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: November 06, 2013 07:30AM

Blah, why is it you and so many others like you feel the need to control other people's lives? I suppose you also feel the need to stop everyone from smoking in their homes as well. Next you will want to remove all fast food joints. If you want to control other peoples actions in one thing then it stands to reason you will need to control all actions as well. This is why so many people are trying to keep anyone from owning guns, because they don't own them they think nobody should. There are some who never drive and feel nobody should drive either. Where do we draw the line on the control of everyone? Our laws were setup initially to prevent harm to others by people's actions and now that line has become so hazy so as not to be able to see it any longer. Everything now has been stretched out so far that anything we do at all can show some form of harm to others, even sitting home and watching TV.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: November 06, 2013 08:49AM

You suppose wrong then and you're making shit up.
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: November 07, 2013 07:55AM

But you still want to control the actions of others.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: November 07, 2013 08:34AM

Says who? You're making shit up.
pulse Report This Comment
Date: November 07, 2013 11:05PM

I want to. When I am king and ruler of the known universe you'll all get yours. ....
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: November 08, 2013 12:48AM

Hell to the yeah baby, just make sure when I get mine it comes with lots and lots of nice crispy BACON Dancing
Green Banana! rock on thumbs
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woberto Report This Comment
Date: November 08, 2013 01:16AM

You gals are great. Keep up the good work.
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: November 08, 2013 07:24AM

When I get mine make sure it's in 20s