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Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: May 05, 2013 02:53PM

Same stuff is happenin with Linux Ubuntu here at the casa star
wars fighting

Still hangin with 11.04 even after 11.10 and 12.04 hit the streets, and for a similar reason. 11.04 was the last distro with the Gnome desktop (although you still have to opt out of Unity to get to it), and I can't stand the fuckin Unity desktop they're usin now (headexplode)

BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: May 05, 2013 02:56PM

Anyone who upgrades to the very latest version of any OS other than for testing purposes deserves what they get. MS gets the most criticism because they are the most used so there are more people to bitch about it. Sure they deserve it but figure the odds and be realistic about it.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: May 05, 2013 03:11PM

Amen Kim. The same things happen with all the OSes. Anyone with experience can verify that. I have never upgraded for the sake of upgrading on the personal level. I always wait unless I've got a test machine to play with. On the work level I had to (when I could and was working that is). I was pretty happy with W2K Pro to be honest. It was a definite step up from W9x, that is for sure. I'm currently using XP still. In the Linux realm I liked RH7 using KDE desktop best and haven't seen any distro I was very impressed with since. I might install some flavor of Linux on a retired machine I have here. I'm missing a few hardware things though.
quasi Report This Comment
Date: May 05, 2013 03:19PM

I like my XP just fine so of course MS has announced they're discontinuing support for it next year. The laptop my kid gave me has Vista which kinda sucks in some ways but I'm figuring it out. Friend of mine just had her laptop die a couple days ago and got a new one with Windows 8 - waiting to hear the results of that.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: May 05, 2013 03:56PM

Vista is a disappointment. I got a laptop given to me with Vista on it long ago too. We tried it for a while before I said fuck this shit and put XP on it instead. I couldn't get the right drivers for the embedded NIC to work under XP but the wireless NIC was fine and worked so not a big deal. I saw win 7 running on a couple of machines and wasn't especially impressed but it did seem a bit better than Vista was. In my opinion Vista is to WinNT OSes what WinME is to Win9x OSes.
pulse Report This Comment
Date: May 05, 2013 09:13PM

kim: real men don't GUI

That said my desktop at home is a Win7 machine, which I actually don't mind. My laptop is a macbook air, so OSX there. I played around a bit with Windows 8 in a VM. I'm sure it's fine, but it's just so different I can't get used to it. My work laptop is still Win XP, it's hard to swap between all these versions and OS' ..

Windows 8 w/start button would probably be fine. The problem is, long ago desktop PCs started getting high resolution monitors etc, and we don't WANT to run everything full screen anymore. Those ideas went out with Windows 95, so I don't know why 20 years later they're back. I have a 27", 2560x1440 monitor on my desk. Why the hell do I want the calculator app full screen? Just makes no sense to me. My desktop doesn't use a touch screen, nor would I want to reach up and do stuff with it if it did. It's not a tablet. I don't want this stuff on my desktop.

Everything else I own runs some variety of Linux, none of which have a GUI at all.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: May 05, 2013 10:55PM

Real men play Minesweeper with real mines.
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: May 06, 2013 06:53AM

Been using win7 for some time now and having no problems with it. Switched from vista which I had no problems with either. Guess I will stick with 7 until MS decides to stop supporting it as well. I tried linux a while back and could never get used to it so never bothered with any of them. I never have any problems with virus' with windows computers because I know what not to do on the internet. I like GUI and will continue to use it until forced to change.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: May 06, 2013 08:22AM

Hell pulse, cut an old dude some slack would ya (*binladen*)

Started out at 42 with a WebTv set top box, which I hung onto for 4 or 5yrs, then traded for an old NIB Dell 166mhz machine w/ ME on it and a 15" monitor for some car work and in the same week went to a 1gig Athalon machine runnin XP, 512mb of RAM & a whopper of a 40gig HD w/a 19" NEC monitor for a turbo install and some port work I had done.

Had a good friend that got tired of fixin my messes in XP and turned me onto Linux Lindows, which by way of appeasement to Windows soon came to be called Linspire, hell, he even made me a Red Hat firewall machine w/his own customized coding for it outta the old Dell.

At my 50th Bday bash the same friend showed up from NJ w/a shiny new CD of Ubuntu 6.06, their very 1st stable LTS distro, a new 24X DVD drive & 250gig HD, loaded it all up on my trusty Athalon machine (which now had a full gig of RAM), took care of all the patches and fixes and I thought I'd died and gone to heaven!

Within another year I had updated to 7.06? and built my very 1st machine usin a build list my buddy had put together for me. He'd also spent several hours remotely workin through fixes and such w/ me while teachin me how to search for work arounds online.

From there I began buyin cheap machines to fiddle with and learn shit on without hurtin my main machine, swapped to various new distros, tried a few different Linux flavors, even played around with XP some more and then gave a Hacintosh box a whirl.

Flash forward to now and I have more 'puters than I need, all runnin some distro of Ubuntu, all home built and w/way more CPU speed and RAM than I need (notice I said need and not WANT), but I'm def a GUI guy. I'll bust off into a console panel so long as I can C&P commands from a how-to I've found, otherwise, I never even open it up.

I'm sure I could learn to code, but lookin back on all I've done so far, that learnin curve was steep enough, so the lazy man inside me just says "Fuckit, stay w/the GUI", so ... grinning

BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: May 06, 2013 01:04PM

I suppose that I am somewhat of a mix between a cmd line and a GUI kind of person. I like and use both. GUI has definitely opened up computer use to the general public. Most have no time nor desire to get deeper than that and for too many that is still too confusing. As long as they keep upgrading I am sure M$ and friends are happy but with tablets and smartphones in the forefront of marketing the desktops and notebooks are starting to ride in the backseat.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: May 06, 2013 03:11PM

i've meant to figure out 5 years+ how to access a website through a terminal connection, but have yet to. to many other things have taken priority.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: May 06, 2013 03:27PM

Doing so from the shell is going to have to open a web-browser anyway so why bother?
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: May 06, 2013 06:52PM

PLP claims it to be much more of a secure connection and swears by it.

and he is my most knowledgeable geek friend

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/05/2013 06:53PM by fossil_digger.
woberto Report This Comment
Date: May 07, 2013 07:25AM

Uggh. When the screen times out, it wants me to log back in via my "microsoft ID"
Hotmail, Outlook, loginlive, whatever.
No thanks.
I need some new clients. Not gonna work with that shit.
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: May 07, 2013 07:25AM

Does anyone remember the Timex Sinclair computer, it was my first computer and I learned basic programming on it. From there I went to Commodore 64 which I used to billing in my business. The first computer I put together I took out an 8088 motherboard and replaced it with a 286 motherboard and everyone kept telling me it can't work but it did. I started it out with a 50meg hard drive and an amber monochrome monitor with 128megs of ram. All of this was in the late seventies to early eighties while I was learning programming in college. Now my computer is a Gateway 1.8ghz quad core 64bit machine with 4 gigs of ram and 3 500gig and one 2tb hard drives and 4 external dvd burners with one internal and a 23in lcd hdmi screen. My want machine would be a top of the line Alienware system.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: May 07, 2013 08:33AM

Alienware is nice stuff .... that you can build yourself for 1/3 - 1/2 the price they charge for it drinking

BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: May 07, 2013 02:24PM

Since the 80286 is only capable of 16MB addressable memory and 1MB of physical RAM I wonder how you managed to put 128MB of RAM in it.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: May 07, 2013 04:06PM

pulse Report This Comment
Date: May 07, 2013 11:17PM

I presumed he meant 128K given he was saying late 70s early 80s smiling

Alienware are nice, but I'll take the pepsi challenge on my desktop any day smiling
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: May 07, 2013 11:39PM

I presumed he didn't know what he was talking about as is usually the case.
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: May 08, 2013 07:06AM

Yes the 80286 was 128k of memory the megs was a typo and the machine was well over 30 years ago and computer memory has changed so much since then, human memory gets foggy over time. I have forgotten more about computers than most people ever know, people keep bringing their ailing computers to me for repair so I must be doing something right. I was selling computers at the fleamarket starting with the 8088 dos based computers running windows 3.1. Thank you Blah I feel the love.
pulse Report This Comment
Date: May 08, 2013 08:25AM

128K on a 286 sounds really low, most came with 512, 640 or 1 MB in 286 era
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: May 08, 2013 10:36AM

As I recall, you couldn't put only 128K in a standard 286 motherboard. Four rows of RAM chip sockets each needing 256K. So the choices were 256K, 512K, 768K or 1M.

Sorry JG, but if you didn't regularly spout of BS nobody would call you on it. Somebody probably will anyway so it may as well be me. It doesn't mean I hate you. I just want you to see how you screw it up for yourself by saying dumb shit too much. In other words, be more careful and don't make yourself look so stupid.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/05/2013 11:41AM by BlahX3.
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: May 09, 2013 07:27AM

Ok it has been so long I don't really remember exactly how much memory it was all I do remember for sure was that all 4 slots were full and it was running great. I remember on 2 separate occasions I was using 128k simms once and 246k simms the second time. There was no intention to bullshit anyone it was just simply a lapse in memory on the details. I never use bullshit unless I use it so far out of reality it is clearly bullshit, like aliens landing on the front lawn of the white house. I do not lie or bullshit anyone, anything I say is generally what I truly believe. You can point any inaccuracies if you like but never try to say I am bullshitting anyone because what I usually say is the truth as I see it and most things are open to interpretation in this world. Actual details are not very important but the general idea of something is what is important.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: May 09, 2013 10:01AM

Well, I have to stand semi-corrected on this one. I do recall that SIMMs were around while 286s were still being produced and in use but I was primarily thinking of the 286 boards with DIP chip memory. Anyway, your numbers are still not quite right, that would be 256K not 246K but whatever. It just seems to me that for someone claiming to know so much about computers that those numbers would not be a point of confusion, but whatever.

Unlike you, I am a stickler for details. The devil is in the details as the saying goes. People get screwed up on details and wind up making bad decisions too often as a result.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/05/2013 10:36AM by BlahX3.
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: May 10, 2013 07:01AM

Well you are right they were 256k chips the 246 was a simple typo where the 4 was hit instead of the 5. If you are such a stickler for details then why not jump people on this board who use improper english like using a instead of an or using irregardless when it is not even a word.

10 print "bite me"
20 goto 10

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/05/2013 07:02AM by jgoins.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: May 10, 2013 01:10PM

"Father forgive us for what we must do
You forgive us, we'll forgive you
We'll forgive each other till we both turn blue
And go whistlin' and a-fishin' in heaven."
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: May 11, 2013 12:07PM

That's funny PJ smiling
quasi Report This Comment
Date: May 22, 2013 10:50AM

re my friend who bought the new laptop. She went to return it the other day 'cause she couldn't get the thing to do some things she needed for her college work. Haven't heard how that turned out.
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: May 23, 2013 07:07AM

What did she want it to do copy her neighbor's test?