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BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: November 05, 2011 06:21PM

Way to go. They have succeeded in terrorizing you to the point of hatred.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: November 05, 2011 08:45PM

Hey Blah, why not explain for all our edification how a religious/political system which not only concedes that lying to "infidels" is A-Ok to firther their cause, allows and even condones deprivation of most all rights women commonly possess since they are considered to be inherently of lesser value than and subservient to males, allows and again condones (even honorizing these acts) the killing of gays, atheists and indeed anyone outside their own "religion of peace" and purports to implement their system of religious zealotry upon the native populations into which they immigrate into is conducive to existence within a western based society?

If you think the above is fabrication or delusional, best get to studyin dude. Europe is sliding down hill in a big way and in parts of the US this is already so firmly entrenched local courts have begun to accept Sharia based arguments which stand in stark contrast to US Federal, State and local laws angry
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jgoins Report This Comment
Date: November 06, 2011 07:12AM

I wonder how some, who think Muslim religion is peaceful, will react when they "ask" them to convert to Muslim? Maybe Blah believes women are second class citizens and have no rights.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: November 06, 2011 11:22AM

I said NOTHING about a religious/political system. I said the terrorists have succeeded in part of their goal and they have by making people full of hatred and fear.

It amuses me and troubles me how you guys are so trigger happy when it comes to this shit or any subject of controversy, and so quick to ASSume that I think or believe this or that when nothing could be further from the truth. I pity your closed mindedness. You are foolish to take one simple statement of mine and twist it all to hell and back and try to make me into something I am not. The fact remains that the terrorists have succeeded in part of their goal by instilling hatred and misconception in your minds. They want you to hate Islam so they have what they consider an excuse to kill you. Terrorists are no more Muslim than Neo-nazis are Christian.

I suggest you do some studying of your own. Sharia has no direct basis in the Quran and was fabricated by ruling clergy much the same as Christian dogma has been fabricated by the church and has no direct basis in the Bible. It's another case of religious brainwashing and done with the sole purpose of controlling the masses by those in power to ensure they remain in power. This is historically verifiable. Some some homework before you blabbermouth more propaganda you've been taught to believe. If you want to get at the truth start by questioning your own assumptions and beliefs.



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fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: November 06, 2011 11:35AM

trigger happy? you cannot prove those facts wrong
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: November 06, 2011 11:48AM

Hate and fear are the same emotional response; fight or flight. They have succeeded in terrorizing and that is all I said and it is the truth.



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fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: November 06, 2011 12:01PM

maybe they have succeeded in terrorizing you, but i go by what they do, not what they say they're going to do. big friggin difference.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: November 06, 2011 12:10PM

Who are "they"? Are the terrorists Muslims because they say they are? Are the skinhead neo-nazis Christian because they say they are? You miss my point entirely so never-fucking-mind. I knew it was pointless...
pro_junior Report This Comment
Date: November 06, 2011 12:56PM

RAG ON HEAD = SHOOT IT DEAD!! wait...wut? (*horse*)
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: November 06, 2011 03:01PM

"Way to go. They have succeeded in terrorizing you to the point of hatred."

the same "they" you were referring to
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: November 06, 2011 03:49PM

Wait, what religion did all the 9-11 terrorist belong to again spinning
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Just for grins I don't "hate" muslims though indeed their faith does generate a lot of apprehension regarding their actions.

And ... if Sharia isn't a part of their faith why is it they are the only ones who use it?

Here's a buck dude, go buy a clue (*butt*)

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BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: November 06, 2011 04:10PM

Again you succeed in missing my point Fossil. The "they" I referred to are the terrorists. What do terrorists do? They terrorize. What is terror? It is fear. Fear and hate are the same emotional state. This "they" have succeeded in making many people hate and fear them and the creation and posting of this picture is indicative of that fact.

I do not think of all Muslims as terrorists any more than I think of all Christians as neo-nazis or members of KKK and it is uneducated and foolish to make such assumptions. All of the world's major religions have been used as an excuse for killing those who did not agree with them. Does that mean that all of those religions are murderous and war mongering by nature? While you're burning the Quran don't forget to toss the Bible, the Torah, the Vedas and the Toa Te Ching and handful of other world religion scriptures in there as well. I think they have all been used in one way or another to validate senseless killing and violence in the name of religion.

I believe in punishing the people responsible for acts of terrorism but I do not believe that because they claim to be Muslim that means all Muslims deserve to be punished for those things as this picture suggests.

Cute Kim. Your ass isn't worth a buck to me though. smiling
smiley Your brain, however, is invaluable and I hate to think such a marvelous thing is wasted on prejudice and assumption. I think you guys are actually smarter than that to be honest.

I do understand the reaction many Americans have about this but I think it's important to think clearly about it and not fall prey to "them." "They" want us to hate them. "They" want us to hate ALL Muslims because of them. It furthers their cause in getting other Muslims to hate us in return. Surely you are smart enough to see that.



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Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: November 06, 2011 05:10PM

Still haddn touched on a morsel of this in all you ramblims Blah, try that 1st:


Hey Blah, why not explain for all our edification how a religious/political system which not only concedes that lying to "infidels" is A-Ok to firther their cause, allows and even condones deprivation of most all rights women commonly possess since they are considered to be inherently of lesser value than and subservient to males, allows and again condones (even honorizing these acts) the killing of gays, atheists and indeed anyone outside their own "religion of peace" and purports to implement their system of religious zealotry upon the native populations into which they immigrate into is conducive to existence within a western based society?


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fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: November 06, 2011 05:29PM

how many christian, jewish, catholic, or baptist terrorists have you heard of?
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: November 06, 2011 05:48PM

I didn't touch on it because it is irrelevant and off topic from my original comment. Which, by the way, none of you have touched on, so touche` big boy. In case you have forgotten, my point is that some of us HAVE fallen prey to the terrorist's scheme to make us fear and hate them and any and everyone calling themselves a Muslim, as evidenced by the picture I commented on.

I may not be qualified to intelligently comment on your OTHER points any more than I already have, however I am fairly certain that you are sufficiently qualified to express YOUR thoughts on my actual and original comment, without redirecting the subject to matters I doubt either of us are experts on.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: November 06, 2011 06:00PM

damn! and i thought i was referring to whiskey distillation methods. (*facepalm*)
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: November 06, 2011 06:09PM

We are probably more qualified to comment on that subject, F_D smileys
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pro_junior Report This Comment
Date: November 07, 2011 12:35AM

why can't we all just get along? also, waaaaah! its bushes fault!!
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: November 07, 2011 06:54AM

It is not fear to be wary of something. Personally I do not trust any organized religion Muslim and Catholics are top of the list. Which religion in modern day has killed more people in name of it's doctrine? But I think we would have less trouble in the world if the photo above were to come true. Maybe if we turn the entire middle east to glass we would have less problems,
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: November 07, 2011 08:44AM

no, attacking religious icons or locations would be an excuse for the "peaceful" muslims to get their "little sheets" in a serious "tizzy". it's much more fun to make fun of them and their stone age beliefs as well as their need / want to bring Islam to the whole world.
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jgoins Report This Comment
Date: November 08, 2011 06:50AM

All religions desire to bring their religions to the world, what is at issue is the method they use to do it. In modern times it is Islam which kills more in it's name.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: November 08, 2011 11:00AM

I basically agree but would reword it. The reality remains that violence is being used in the name of a particular religion no matter how we phrase it. Marx did have a good point, religion is the opiate of the masses. Ironically if they were using real opiates they'd probably be too fucked up to get up off the couch and go shoot someone.
GAK67 Report This Comment
Date: November 09, 2011 03:51AM

My 2c worth is that the majority of muslims are just ordinary, every day, peace loving people who just want to get on with their lives, and many of the things that Mrkim raised as problems with the islamic religion are only believed by them as they have never known any better.

That's not to say that the issues raised by Mrkim are invalid and my own opinion is that many of the muslim leaders and senior clerics are pushing their agenda aggressively, but just as Obama's opinions aren't shared by all of you, not all muslims share the opinions espoused by their leaders.

Bombing mecca as depicted in the picture would just increase the number of people willing to "martyr" themselves, but not having a distrust of people (and not just muslims) who could be a threat to your safety is just asking for trouble. Once you know you can trust a person though it shouldn't matter what religion or ethnicity they are.
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: November 09, 2011 06:58AM

Bombing mecca as depicted in the picture would just increase the number of people willing to "martyr" themselves
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True but if the entire middle east were turned to glass there wouldn't be enough lift to martyr themselves. Not to say it can, would or even should happen but it would reduce the amount of problems with them.



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BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: November 09, 2011 09:18AM

That isn't a viable alternative JG. It would poison the planet with radiation. I just hope they don't do it to themselves.
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: November 10, 2011 06:22AM

If Iran has it's way they will. Maybe a neutron bomb would be a better alternative.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: November 10, 2011 10:20AM

There probably aren't enough nukes to actually turn the region into glass anyway.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: November 10, 2011 10:59AM

Hiroshima and Nagasaki proved that nukes are not a viable option for any reason. Iran wants them because they think it will give them some sort of bargaining chip in the middle east when in fact it will cause a nuclear arms race in the region (the last thing the planet needs). they must be stopped at all costs from producing even one and all nukes around the world should be disposed of immediately! it is a vicious circle that must be eliminated ASAP!



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Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: November 10, 2011 11:23AM

It's never the peace loving centrists of a religion that cause problems but the extremists/zealots that do so. The major difference today is no faiths zealots have placed themselves in such radical company as have Muslims.

No other group has flown airliners into skyscrapers, filmed themselves beheading people or publicly protesting and calling for the deaths of all others outside their faith.

To say the Muslim faith is based on outdated precepts from hundreds of years in our past is easy enough to see but hardly reasonable at the same time to offer them a pass for their unwillingness to participate in the world we have today.

If we see a 3yr old tryin to jam a butter knife into and electrical outlet we don't look at it and say "Oh well, they just don't know any better, isn't that quaint?". Or if someone handed a loaded AK-47 with the safety off to a 5yr old and they started hosin down everyone around them, would we just turn a blind eye and say "Oh, it's OK, they just didn know any better."?

The stark reality is that allowing Muslims to interject their illogical social mores and ideologies into our modern western societies is fallacious at best and in my summation will lead to demands for simply more and more acceptance of their lunacy and outdated sense of morality and law.

The real sadness is that Muslims have learned to utilize the laws of civilized western civilization to foist their own beliefs upon us all. Our own civilized principles of acceptance of others ideologies and practices of their faiths without discrimination has been turned upon us as a weapon against our own civilizational constructs.

When a Muslim sues an amusement park for religious discrimination for not allowing them to ride a rollercoaster wearing their head scarves because it endangers their safety, or a police force for requiring a woman to raise her burqa so they can make a real identification of whom she really is or an argument is made in court that a father was honoring his rights granted by his faith to kill his wife or daughter to "save" the honor of his family it's become all too obvious that they've learned how to turn our own system of laws against us.

BTW Blah, if Sharia Law isn't an integral part of the Muslim faith and indeed directly intertwined into Islam, please explain then why Sharia by definition is the implementation of laws based upon the teachings and tenets contained in the Koran?

If I were empowered to dream a different reality for mankind like the cat in "The Lathe of Heaven" it would be that I could awaken to a world devoid of all religion.

There is NO OTHER force that so divides and pits humanity against itself. Quite simply, to deny that sad truth only points to a lacking in the ability to perceive what is real from that which is delusion drinking
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BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: November 10, 2011 01:36PM

You know MrKim, I actually agree with you on all counts. I am just a stickler for us trying to improve our understanding of things and people such as the Muslims so we can gain a better perspective and know what we are really up against. Kind of a know thy enemy thing.

Yes, Sharia law is definitely an integral part of current Muslim politics and popular beliefs among many Muslims and it is sad to me because like I've tried to point out, it is not really what Islam was intended to be all about in the first place from what little I know about it. I am not defending Islam, I do not believe in Islam and I personally think it has rapidly devolved into a socio-political nightmare much faster than other major religions have. But I also know that there are some believers in Islam that are very good and well intentioned people and they are sincere and peaceful about their religion. I'm sure you are aware of that but unfortunately the proof is in the putting and what we see in the world gives a very bleak and negative and destructive slant to the Muslim community. I do not blame Americans at all for being jaded about Islam because what we see of it is pretty bad right now. I would like to awaken into a world not devoid of religion but one where we no longer used religions as an excuse to do evil in the world and give religion it's proper place, that being for the spiritual development and edification of the believers and help them become better people from it on an individual basis.

I don't want us Americans to be victims of the terrorists (Muslim or otherwise) and I think when we react with thoughts of violent retribution (whether deserved or not) we might be missing out and have actually been caught up in the intended outcome of terrorist's actions. In other words we have already been terrorized. What do we do now? I think learning as much about the threat as we can is a good step. I don't think promoting incorrect beliefs and assumptions about the entire Muslim population in the world is a good thing, especially when it leans toward more violence and mistrust when what we need to do is find non-violent methods of battling the problem. Sure, some cases call for violence and it is right and just, but lets not give up entirely on the effort to find other ways of thinking and dealing with the problem. If the problem is ideological in nature then we should take an ideological approach to it as well.



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Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: November 10, 2011 09:27PM

Perhaps the real problem I have with Islam is that I already know more about it than I wish I did.

My understanding shows me a religion based on the rantings of a self anointed pedophile who claimed to be a god. It shows me a religion that intermingles faith, morality, law and governance as an all-in-one dangerous preponderance of sociopathic principles. And it shows me a religion that not only is not accepting of other faiths, but even allows lying to and killing of those outside their faith and neatly all not only allowed but sanctioned in the name of their god as just and righteous.

Knowing all the above is included in Islam, why would any sane person feel a need to offer an olive branch or embrace any type of acceptance of their faith?

You can stand on the outside of the tank at Sea World and marvel at a great white shark, having studied it long and hard, knowing full well the beauty you see before you and the deadliness it also encompasses, but ... are you gonna take all that understanding and try to jump in and make friends with this fearsome predatory animal? Does the knowledge we have of great white sharks mean we are jaded in choosing not to do so, or just wise enough to know better?

The divide between Islam and western civilization IS an idealogical one, of that I'm more than sure. The question is not how do WE idealogically deal with it, the question is simply how can we as civilized people protect ourselves FROM it because this great white is not safely on the other side of a thick pane of glass but is loosed among us in the same world we all live in together eye popping
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GAK67 Report This Comment
Date: November 11, 2011 06:56AM

Well put arguments in your last two posts Mrkim. In the case of the 3 year old with the butter knife or the 5 year old with the AK-47, no you don't just say "Oh well, they don't know any better", but you don't annihilate them either as some propose with muslims (I'm not saying that you propose this Mrkim). Even with the great white shark, you take measures to stop them attacking you and only take deadly action against specific animals when necessary to protect yourself, not against the entire species. As I said in my previous post though, the points you initially raised are valid. The issue is how you deal with them.

When dealing with those issues in western countries it is a case of conflicting rights. They have freedom of religion and the right to free speech, but how far does that go? There was a case here where a bus driver refused to allow a woman wearing a burkha onto the bus. She was not asking for any sort of concession fare so I don't think there should be a problem with her wearing the burkha, but in my opinion if they want to ask for a youth rate for example the bus driver should have the right to check an ID photo against the face. Of course law enforcement should have the right to get them to lift their veils when necessary, in my opinion. The question is how obliging should you be? Should you have a facility at an airport for instance where there is a room with only female immigration staff to check the passport photos of women in burkhas? Is that being courteous? Or is it unnecessary pandering?

Your argument about using the law to their own benefit reminded me of a case here in NZ where a young girl was raped by her HIV positive Uncle. They were from an African nation and he argued in court that in his culture they believed having sex with a virgin would cure them of AIDS. Thankfully the court refused to accept that argument. Hopefully that sort of attitude continues from our courts.
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: November 11, 2011 07:12AM

Maybe we should build shark nets around our society to keep out the great white sharks of Islam and if one of the other lesser sharks bites someone then we put it down as a lesson to the other sharks. The great whites already in our shores should be placed in aquariums and studied and watched to prevent them from escaping and eating us. If they cannot survive in captivity then so be it.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: November 12, 2011 01:12PM

They need a new pet rock, the one they have is broken.
Raad Report This Comment
Date: November 14, 2011 03:55AM

If such incident Occurred, be assured it will be the end of the world. because every single one of the 1.6 billion Muslims will fight till death.
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: November 14, 2011 07:55AM

But they have a habit of killing themselves in their attacks so they would have to take 20 of us with each one of them and that can't happen.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: November 15, 2011 02:01PM

I think you should to show your work on that math. winking
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Maybe if we gave them one of our moon rocks they'd calm down for a while.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: November 15, 2011 02:03PM

tell 'em Allah pissed on that rock, and....BINGO!
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: November 15, 2011 02:13PM

I like it smiling
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They say Mohammed called it the right hand of God. The devil musta snuck in a stick of dynamite in a game of rock-paper-scissors.

Oh, BTW, this "they" is the Muslims, not just the terrorist ones.

I've seen the softer side of Islam, called Sufis (aka Dervishes, a fringe esoteric mysticism branch, if you can call it that, hardcore fundamentalists call them heretics). I don't think they went in for the whole rock worship part. They didn't even seem to really give a shit about Mohammed really. They just want to sing and chant Allah and dance and twill around and stuff like that and not bother anyone with it either.

Oh yeah, they usually pretty good pot too. smoking
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woberto Report This Comment
Date: November 15, 2011 08:19PM

Itsuckasstan, that's funny!
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: November 15, 2011 08:50PM

He who laughs last...

I know, my jokes suck but that's how I can tell who really likes me. The ones who laugh at my dumb jokes are my friends.



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jgoins Report This Comment
Date: November 16, 2011 07:09AM

lol Blah, more humor
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Date: January 12, 2012 08:02PM