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Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: August 26, 2011 10:26AM

Yeah, a lot of fools did. Now the change we're all hoping for is Obozos place of residency. A return to his native Kenya would be great smileys
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GAK67 Report This Comment
Date: August 26, 2011 11:25AM

I was going to say that I was impressed - 9 posts about Obama with no mention of his skin colour, Then Mrkim had to go and spoil it.

Mrkim, in my opinion your comment about Kenya makes you seem petty and small minded. I know from previous posts on here that you are neither of those so wonder why you have to stoop to that level.
quasi Report This Comment
Date: August 26, 2011 01:40PM

Uh, GAK, his father was definitely from Kenya and there is still some doubt as to whether Obama was born there as well. Not really a comment on color.
SkullandChains Report This Comment
Date: August 26, 2011 02:08PM

Perhaps it's because saying a black person (regardless of who it is or why you want him to leave) needs to go back to Africa, is usually construde as racist in nature, even though it's a "I don't like the direction he's taking our country, he lied, and I want him to leave!" issue.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 26/08/2011 08:43PM by SkullandChains.
GAK67 Report This Comment
Date: August 26, 2011 02:41PM

quasi: The fact that a parent comes from a certain place doesn't make a child come from that place. As for Obama's birth place, I never picked you as a conspiracy theorist.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: August 26, 2011 03:08PM

GAK, before you go off 1/2 cocked again, perhaps you should do your own independent research and arrive at your own conclusion about whether there is or is not reasonable doubt as to the actual place of Obozos birth.

It was 1st claimed he was born in a certain hospital in Hawaii, then that was changed to a different hospital across the island, his Kenyan grandmother also claims she was present at his birth in Kenya (and I have to wonder what point could be made that she would have any reason to lie about this).

If all the above coupled with a certificate of live birth having once been presented and then many months later a different version being shown, which many competent document forensics specialists have noted contains multiple digital doctorings and a cuppla historic errors, my question would be what reasonable person would NOT have doubts about the issue.

Now then, if you have exhaustively done the same inspection of these ideas I and many other Americans have and have arrived at the conclusion you DO NOT think there's any substance to all this subterfuge and speculation, that's one thing, and I'll accept that, if that's what you believe.

If however you HAVE NOT done the above and instead just choose to swallow hook line and sinker what the main stream media feeds you as the truth then I would say that you sir are the one being small minded, not me (*finger*)

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quasi Report This Comment
Date: August 26, 2011 04:47PM

Oh, I'm not one for conspiracy theories but if he was a white guy whose dad was from NZ and it was thought by many that he himself was born in NZ, would it be racist to suggest he go back to NZ? The "First black president, first credit downgrade" post from a couple of weeks ago was almost certainly contrived as a racist statement though open to interpretation as being two separate statements. I think Kim went overboard in protesting the alternate nonracist interpretation. His statement here, though, is definitely more open to an interpretation of being a statement of nationality vs. one of racism. Kim baited you, GAK, and you went for the bait. Kenyan is Kenyan and black is black but they are not neccessarily the same thing - the "credit downgrade" post said black and you saw black but the statement today said Kenyan and you instantly read it as black. Sometimes we're so busy trying not to be racist that we go too far the other direction and end up be racist in a different way.Frankly, it's nice to know that I live in a country where a person of a minority race can be elected president and I'm glad it happened in my lifetime but it's most unfortunate and disturbing that this con man was the one elected and I wish he'd go back to wherever he came from.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: August 26, 2011 06:24PM

funny that yak thinks you must be black if you're from Kenya. smiling
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good 'ole Kiwi logic. clown
quasi Report This Comment
Date: August 26, 2011 09:53PM

I lived my first two decades in Ohio and have lived in Florida for three decades. Does that make me a yankee or a rebel?
woberto Report This Comment
Date: August 26, 2011 10:16PM

fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: August 26, 2011 10:19PM

i only consider someone a yankee if they live in Chicago or east of there, and north of the Mason Dixon. that applies to birth place. in your case i'd say you are a southerner convert because of time served. grinning
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Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: August 26, 2011 10:54PM

Bein a Yankee or a Southerner is mostly about a frame of mind for transplants. For born and bred southerners though, it's just about a given.

I have a friend in South Carolina originally from New Jersey and he's the most southernified cat I ever met from there. He loves it in SC and says he'll never leave. His combination of NJ and SC speech is really a trip smiling
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pulse Report This Comment
Date: August 27, 2011 02:56AM

@quasi: "Oh, I'm not one for conspiracy theories but if he was a white guy whose dad was from NZ and it was thought by many that he himself was born in NZ, would it be racist to suggest he go back to NZ?"

When I was living in the UK, I had an argument with a co-worker who, like myself, was white. He was British.

During the argument, the boss overheard him say "why don't you just go back to Australia".

That was the last day he worked there, he was dismissed for that comment. It was considered by the company to be vilification.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: August 27, 2011 03:26AM

And here I thought our PC doublespeak was bad, that's ludicrous (*facepalm*)

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pulse Report This Comment
Date: August 27, 2011 04:44AM

It was a heated argument, and I didn't want him fired, but he was a knob..
quasi Report This Comment
Date: August 27, 2011 06:32AM

That is outrageous, pulse.
After I made my other post I had the further thought, what if he was a black man who was believed to be from the UK and it was suggested that he go back there? Or a black man from any nation that's perceived to be "white." Because Kenya is perceived to be a "black" nation the remark was considered a racist insult. making the perception racist though not neccesarily the suggestion. GAK meant well, but this is a persistant problem with our "beloved" president - many statements critical of him are percieved to be racist while in fact are just critical statements, statements that would not be thought to be racist in any way if they were made about a white man. This is true in general about race relations in this country. Most of the old prejudices have been left behind but there's a big chip on the shoulder of many folks of color that just won't let them go, and there are too many folks not of color going overboard in their attempts to tilt the scales to give people of color a more favorable review when in fact their review is most often not racially motivated at all. It's called political correctness, or using the race card and causes more problems that it solves.
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: August 27, 2011 06:59AM

You know if I had made the statement Mr. Kim did, there would be no doubt it was racist. I am not politically correct by any measure and I don't hide it. Mr Kim however is not racist in the least and never has been in any of his post. So just go ahead and attribute any racism to me if you need a scapegoat, Mr. Kim does not deserve it and I can take it. Until it becomes illegal to not be politically correct I will continue against political correctness.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: August 27, 2011 10:40AM

Having done plenty of self exploration in the area of racism I put my thoughts as prejudicial though not really racist in nature.
I don't despise any race though I certainly do despise those using the PC tactic of playin the race card.

The concept of PC speech is a seemingly decidedly Orwellian concept and leads to an overall breakdown in the ability of people to just plainly say what's what. Vilification of people who refuse to participate in PC speech as racist does nothing short of throwing ever more fuel on an already raging fire.

The real pisser is how slanted the playing field becomes in popular perceptions of what is considered racism and what is not, most especially in determining who or what is or can be considered racism or racist, based more on the race of the speaker, not the actual statements they are making, which further divides the issue even further. In essence, whites are viewed as the most commonly perceived to be racist for whatever they say yet other races most often get a pass for having made obvious racially tainted and sometimes hate based racist comments ... "And the beat goes on, La de da da dee, la dee da da die"

Detractors of whites who are truly simply trying to effectively communicate a point or position are quick to cry foul in claiming such points are RACIST when in truth, often that's not even close to what is truth. This leads in turn to (white) people undertaking fancy two-step verbal jigs in trying to convey their points without being perceived as racist in nature and overall this just confounds the possibility of open and honest discourse, through which everyone suffers.

PC speech has done more to confound the possibility of anything resembling real communication than any other single tenet of our "modern" society. Once the ever popular Race Card is thrown into the mix it simply further confounds communication leaving many people no way forward in attempting to discuss anything with even the slightest possibility of being considered racial in nature.

My personal perception is such that utilization of the race card is the equivalent of sarcasm on a political level. While sarcasm is often called the "weapon on the weak" in discourse, I see the race card as a similar weapon for those politically incapable of winning arguments with logic and honest debate monty
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BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: August 27, 2011 02:05PM

I'm chiming in a little late but last official estimate of non-African people (Arab, Indian, European) in Kenya was at 1% which means 99% black people. Guessing that a person from Kenya is black has a 99% chance of success.
quasi Report This Comment
Date: August 27, 2011 02:55PM

Yet it's still about the country of origin regardless of the make up of it's population; as long as it's the country of his origin, whether it's Obama's or his father's, it doesn't really matter what the population looks like, it is what it is and telling him to go back there is like telling me to go back to Ohio.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: August 27, 2011 03:25PM

Understood. I was tardily referring to Fossil's comment about Gak assuming that someone from Kenya would be black, and I was hinting that it was not that unreasonable of an assumption since Kenya's population is 99% black. That is not a racist comment, just a factual one. I was in Mombasa in the 70s and it was a pretty cool experience. I liked it and wish I could have spent more time there.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: August 27, 2011 09:39PM

Here's a perfect example of the lunacy of PC speech, and thanks for helpin bring it to fruition Blah.

Although my initial comment about Obozo goin back to Kenya was a definite political jab I had no intention of anything like a racial slant, nor did I make any mention of anything about Obozos race. However, because I am a white man making a comment about another man who is 1/2 black, the immediate perception becomes that my statements are in fact racist regardless.

This is EXACTLY what I meant when I said it has more to do with the race of the speaker and that of the person being discussed in what is then perceived as racist, and NOT what was actually said! And ... this is a shining example of how the tendrils of PC speech totally confounds the possibility of honest discourse as the skin color of whose being discussed always pushes the topic into racist territory, regardless of what the actual message itself is.

Then, since the discussion that follows leads away from the concept of what was said having been racist in nature, Blah comes back with a deleterious statement that because 99% of Kenya is in fact black that it still is basically a racist statement because of that statistic as this points in all likelihood to the concept again that my comments would still logically lead to a racist basis for my comments. In effect, since no racism exists, the concepts of PC speech STILL pushes to find racism in it somewhere in everything regardless!

However, what I didn see was some statistic regarding what percentage of Kenyans were in fact 1/2 black, though such an addition might have actually had more relevance overall!

Does anyone not see just how twisted the conversation becomes in making a case for something being construed as racially motivated? Does anyone else here not also see that a discussion between completely white men about someone who is 1/2 black has every facet of it examined in the most minute of detail in an attempt to MAKE it about race, whether it is, ever was, or ever would be about race at all (*horse*)

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BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: August 27, 2011 10:31PM

Now wait just a doggone minute there buddy boy. There was nothing deleterious (deleterious - Adjective: Causing harm or damage) at all about what I wrote and it was certainly not construed in any way to imply that anything anyone else wrote was racist, neither was it a political or particularly politically correct statement of any kind, rather simply that it would be a reasonable assumption to think of Kenyans as black people for the simple reason that about 99% of them are. If anything it was (as clearly stated) a late entry comment on what F_D wrote about Gak assuming that a Kenyan is black.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: August 27, 2011 11:16PM

he made an ass outta you not me. (*finger4*)
woberto Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2011 12:29AM

Five more generations and we'll all have Asian skin and straight black hair.
One World.
One Race.
Accept it.
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2011 06:05AM

Mr Kim you last statement explains the reason I never hide the fact that I am racist, because no matter what I say it will be construed as racist. Also your post was quite easy for me to read and understand but there are those here who will have difficulty understanding what it is you are saying, probably because there are too many words. I understand that you probably meant that anything said against a black man by a white man is understood as being racist no matter what the statement might be. I did not vote for Odamna simply because he is black but now I find my dislike of him is in large part because he is an idiot.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2011 03:40PM

Kim has a good command of English and writes well. That doesn't mean that everything he writes is correct though. Like with many others there is a tendency to misconstrue things to mean something that was not intended, although Kim is usually much better at not doing that than others are, which is one reason I usually pay more attention to what he writes than I do to the writings of some others here.

Fossil, you don't need anyone's help. smiling
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BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2011 04:01PM

jgoins you make a valid point. However in your case since you are a racist anything you say WILL be considered racist by default by most people. You do realize that I'm sure.

I am not a racist. Stupidity comes in all colors which should be pretty obvious to everyone by now.

I didn't vote for Obama either because I didn't like him or believe him, but then I haven't liked any presidential candidate or believed their campaign promises since before I was old enough to vote and in most cases have refused to vote for any of them since.
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: August 29, 2011 07:32AM

Odamna is an idiot. Is that a racist comment? Also when using the N word I also describe many white people with that word. That word is used to describe people's actions rather than their skin color.
woberto Report This Comment
Date: August 29, 2011 08:30AM

I'm a third generation Anglo-Australian but ever since I found a few pics of an asian guy and posted them as myself everyone has been really nice to me. You're all being PC without knowing it.
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quasi Report This Comment
Date: August 29, 2011 10:04AM

Fraud!
pro_junior Report This Comment
Date: August 29, 2011 03:54PM

this is far as I got; his Kenyan grandmother also claims she was present at his birth in Kenya (and I have to wonder what point could be made that she would have any reason to lie about this).
didn't read anything between then and here....where do you people find the time to write all of this stuff??
but anyway...I read that and thought, well...obamas granny? shit she must be pretty fucking old, I seriously doubt her memory is really all that great, old people get shit turned around all the time, my dad is forever confusing the names of my son and grandson...that old hag thinks hawaii was kenya...

obama/birthplace = (*horse*)
woberto Report This Comment
Date: August 29, 2011 04:42PM

They should amend the rules, citing Obama as precedent, then Arnie can run for President!
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: August 29, 2011 06:45PM

Seems amazing you can make excuses for taking time to educate yourself PJ. Given that idea, what do you base your political opinions on, cartoons drinking
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What's even more odd is that no matter what happens there's still a clamoring horde of Obozo supporters bound and determined to make up excuses for him eye rolling
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quasi Report This Comment
Date: August 29, 2011 07:55PM

OOOH he's just so darned cute with those Will Smith ears & all.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: August 29, 2011 08:48PM

It's all about appearances. Looks good, sounds good, plays out bad. Government in action. Hasn't changed since I remember. If anything gotten worse.
quasi Report This Comment
Date: August 29, 2011 09:11PM

Dude's turnin' gray quickly, though. Could be a ploy to get the sympathy vote, and perhaps the elderly - wouldn't be surprised.
pro_junior Report This Comment
Date: August 29, 2011 11:04PM

I base my political opinions on knowing that the inner core of our government is corrupt beyond my imagination, and I can imagine some really, really, fucked up shit...therefore it really doesnt matter who we vote for or support or argue about, because the whole fucking system is fubar. but I did get a chuckle at the will smiff ears bit spinning
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jgoins Report This Comment
Date: August 30, 2011 06:40AM

If all this happened under Bush 43 there would be lynch mobs forming on the White House lawn. With Odamna the lynch mob would be considered racist.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: August 30, 2011 10:43PM

Two black guys are at a bar talking, one
says to the other, "You ever notice after you have sex with a
white woman that your eyes burn, your nose burns, and you get
all teary-eyed?"
The second black guy says, "Yeah, all the time."
The other says, "Why is that?"
The second says, "I think it's the pepper spray."
woberto Report This Comment
Date: August 31, 2011 02:44AM

[www.google.com.au]
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: August 31, 2011 06:44AM

Good one Fossil
woberto Report This Comment
Date: November 17, 2011 02:30AM

Obama 2011 visit to Australia
An extract from his speech to Australian Parliament today.

10.52am: "The US has been and always will be a Pacific nation." The focus couldn't be more clear, and Mr Obama cites his own childhood experiences as an example of his country's links to the region.

"Here we see the future as the world's fastest growing region." Asia is key to Mr Obama's highest priority - "creating jobs and opportunities for the American people."

Mr Obama pledges that the US will play an increasing role in the region. He is emphasising the need for peace and mutually beneficial trade.

"I know some have questioned America's commitment to upholding these principals." Mr Obama indicates that he will wind down defence spending as the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan come to an end. Because of this, engagement in Asia will be a "top priority".