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GOP saying health bill will kill grannies

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GOP saying health bill will kill grannies

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madmex2000 Report This Comment
Date: August 01, 2009 02:15PM

According to REPUBLICAN SCARE MONGERS Health bill reccomends how to kill granny's

gonna have to add this scare tactic to my list.

Seriously, how is the Republican base gonna ever come back if there still doing this shit. We need your party to be solvent.

The low bar Just set a new LOW standerd
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: August 01, 2009 08:04PM

how 'bout killing welfare then?
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: August 01, 2009 08:13PM

Hmmm, curious if you actually have any idea of some of the provisions within the current bill or just spoutin off without any real knowledge as is your usual way madnez?

Here's a quick overview of a few things that certainly sound a bit whacked in it :

One fellow who's actually read the healthcare bill is twittering about it.
If this doesn't scare you, nothing will.

Peter Fleckstein (aka Fleckman) is reading it and has been posting on
Twitter [] his findings. This is from his
postings (Note: All comments are Fleckman's)

Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Govt will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS
that self insure!!

Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what
treatments/benes u get

Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!!

Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose UR HC
Benefits 4 you. U have no choice!

PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided 2 ALL non US citizens,
illegal or otherwise

Pg 58HC Bill - Govt will have real-time access 2 individuals' finances & a
National ID Healthcard will be issued!

Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access 2 ur banks accts 4
elect. funds transfer

PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan 4 retirees and their families in
Unions & community orgs (ACORN).

Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating an HC Exchange 2 bring priv HC plans under
Govt control.

PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Govt mandates ALL benefit pkgs 4 priv. HC plans in
the Exchange

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt will
ration ur Healthcare!

PG 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill - Govt mandates linguistic approp svcs. Example -
Translation 4 illegal aliens

Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps 2
sign up indiv. for Govt HC plan

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs of Ben Levels 4 Plans. #AARP members - U Health
care WILL b rationed

-PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid Eligible Indiv. will b
automat.enrolled in Medicaid. No choice

pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No "judicial
review" against Govt Monop

pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ #AMA - The Govt will tell YOU what u
can make.

Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into pub opt plan.

Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay 4 HC 4 part time employees AND their

Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Emplyr w payroll 400k & above who does not prov. pub
opt. pays 8% tax on all payroll

pg 150 Lines 9-13 Biz w payroll btw 251k & 400k who doesnt prov. pub. opt
pays 2-6% tax on all payroll

Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable HC accrdng 2
Govt will be taxed 2.5% of inc

Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from indiv. taxes.
(Americans will pay)

Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access 2
ALL Americans finan/pers recs

PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - "The tax imposed under this section shall not be
treated as tax" Yes, it says that

Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Govt will reduce physician svcs 4 Medicaid.
Seniors, low income, poor affected

Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors, doesn't matter what specialty u have,
you'll all be paid the same

PG 253 Line 10-18 Govt sets value of Dr's time, prof judg, etc. Literally
value of humans.

PG 265 Sec 1131Govt mandates & controls productivity for private HC

PG 268 Sec 1141 Fed Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven

welcome to rationing!

Page 280 Sec 1151 The Govt will penalize hospitals 4 what Govt deems
preventable readmissions.

Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Drs, treat a patient during initial admiss that results in
a readmiss-Govt will penalize u.

Pg 317 L 13-20 OMG!! PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells Drs.
what/how much they can own.

Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating
hospitals cannot expand

pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have oppt to apply for exception BUT community input
required. Can u say ACORN?!!

Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 - Govt mandates estab. of outcome based measures.
HC the way they want. Rationing

Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Govt has authority 2 disqual Medicare Adv Plans, HMOs, etc.
Forcing peeps in2 Govt plan

Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs ppl! WTF.
My sis has down syndrome!!

Pg 379 Sec 1191 Govt creates more bureaucracy - Telehealth Advisory Cmtte.
Can u say HC by phone?

PG 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior
Citizens end of life

Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills,
durable powers of atty. Mandatory!

PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Govt provides apprvd list of end of life
resources, guiding u in death

PG 427 Lines 15-24 Govt mandates program 4 orders 4 end of life. The Govt
has a say in how ur life ends

Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An "adv. care planning consult" will b used frequently as
patients health deteriorates

PG 429 Lines 10-12 "adv. care consultation" may incl an ORDER 4 end of life
plans. AN ORDER from GOV

Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of
life order.

PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment u will have
at end of life

Pg 469 - Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit orgs. Hello, ACORN
Medical Svcs here!!?

Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. 1 monthly payment 2 a
community-based org. Like ACORN?

PG 489 Sec 1308 The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means
they will insert Govt in2 ur marriage

Pg 494-498 Govt will cover Mental Health Svcs including defining, creating,
rationing those svcs

DW9279 Report This Comment
Date: August 05, 2009 04:23PM

madmex2000 Where is your response???? You don't have one do you, Facts are stubborn things Huh