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shaDEz Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 12:16AM

sounds good to me
Lexx Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 02:15AM

Yeah no more trannies!
DarkKlown Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 03:25AM

I was always against going to war.

Having 1/2 a brain you could tell right from before day 1 it would turn into a vietnam. The simple fact any country that tries to fight america with a 'tank on tank' war is just stupid. It makes perfect sense for you to gorilla fight. Hell america INVENTED gorilla warfare why not use it against them. That said now that the war is in full swing you simply can't end it in a conventional means. Your not fighting a goverment anymore your fighting people. No single person is in charge. You have alot of different people who are fighting for their own reasons. The longer the war goes on the more people will be pulled into it (what would you do if your entire family was killed by a foreign goverment? go on about your life and thank that goverment for improving your life? or would you bury a bomb on a road used regulary by said goverment?)

The only way to end a war like this is over a VERY long time (15-25 years or longer) and only by small steps. You have to enable the people to protect themselves and you need to help them goven themselves (this doesn't mean putting in a puppet goverment of your choosing, even if you disagree with the choice of the people it is their RIGHT to choose wrong). You have to show that by blowing things up they are only hurting themselves and that it has no real impact on yourself. This includes using the people to rebuild their own country. Shipping in companies under your goverement for them to do the work/get rich doesn't help.

Britian vs Ireland is a really good example. Here you had a country that was invaded by another and occupied. By the 1960's the british goverment had enough (maybe even before then) and wanted to give independance to ireland but simply couldn't because of the continueing bombings by the IRA. If Britian gave up occupancy of Ireland at the time it would of been seen as a sign of weakness so it took 30 years for britian to be able to allow Ireland to form their own independant goverment and be able to pass power to it.

With Britian vs Ireland at least you had alot of similaries in culture and even distance. With Iraq what is the same? 'You like to sell oil and make yourself rich and we like to use oil?'

How on earth anyone thought it would be a 1-2 year fight to get saddam out and to form a new goverment i'll never know. I'm sick of seeing in the media 'ohh!! you never said it would take 10 years for us to topple a goverment and put our own in!'.. What the hell.. I don't consider myself to be the smartest man alive but I'd think you would have to be a total retard to think that.

My point i'm trying to make is if america pulls out of this war now (like they have sooo many times in the past.. re 1979-1989 Soviet/Afghanistan war) you WILL have people bringing the war to you. Just because you decide a war is over doesn't make it so. And if america pulls out of Iraq the Iraqis who believe they have been wronged will just follow the battle field back to american soil. My only real hope out of this is for america to be brought to the brink of bankrupcy (president bush has spent more money than EVERY other president of america combined!!) the entire population pass thru a resession and remember just what going to war and killing thousands of people really costs. It cost them their lives at least it should cost americans their wallets.

Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 07:49AM

Will wonders never cease ! DK actually stating an opinion here, my, my my thumbs

Just a few thoughts from an American perspective on this issue DK, Ok ?

Many American people have come to feel as if the justification we were given for this debacles implementation was at best ill advised, and at worst (and what many here now feel) an outright misrepresentation of facts in the 1st place.

Though I would guess a commonly held world view of America and Americans is one of a culture of warrior-like personalities, I think that's a bit of a misrepresentation of what we as a nation of peoples truly are.

The people here commonly view the actions our government takes in many global situations with the same trepidation many in the rest of the world do, and feel very much like the rest of the world in being powerless to stop or change it, so it's a big boat we all seem to be riding in here on this issue as surely on many others too.

The majority of Americans want us out of Iraq and I place myself within that majority. I also see no point in some elongated presence in Iraq for the purposes of "nation building" as this seems totally in opposition to the principles we as a nation were founded upon which is freedom for ourselves and everyone else to choose as they will.

Secondly, any continued presence there only seems to further exacerbate the problems present and I can see no point for the Iraqi, nor ourselves in doing so. The Iraqi people have always had internal problems and will continue (like many other middle eastern countries) to have them whether we are there or not, so my question is, what point is there in being there at all?

In the truest sense of Americanism (not an ideal represented by our governments actions) we support all peoples rights to choose their own government and govern themselves as they choose to. The whole concept of "nation building" is totally in direct opposition to the tenets upon which our nation was founded and in "My" view, borders on madness as a feasible possibility.

While I don't welcome your wishes for our economic downfall I do however understand how many people in the world feel as if we as a nation should be punished for the actions of our government. The war in Iraq has already consumed hundreds of billions of dollars and even if we were to withdraw our troops and support structures TODAY, would cost more billions still in doing so. To my way of thinking the expenses in terms of human lives of American soldiers at risk there is worth every cent of the costs to withdraw, and I hope it's done as quickly as is possible.

Though it can be said that we as the American public are responsible for the actions of our government, since we as a people elected the members of it, let me be clear here in stating that the American people as a whole have not realistically been represented by a government or a legislature we have elected in quite some time.

We strive to make the best choices available in electing representatives to go in our stead to the capital and take care of the business of running our country, but once in office these elected officials nearly always seem to discount or totally disregard the concerns of their constituants .... and so the violation begins, or continues, depending on your perspective.

It is my hope we elect a new president to move us out of the oppressive posture we have assumed globally and return us to a more sane way of being as a country. Though the candidate I personally choose to support is Ron Paul because he defers to a return to the form of government our Constitution outlines and returning the governing of our people back to the people themselves, his platform seems so reasonable I fear he'll never get elected and even if he did, would likley be assasinated while in office.

Our country has gone far astray of what it should be and truly what it should be doing in the world today, but it is my hope it's not too late to make a positive change in the future.

Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 11:15AM

Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 11:48AM

Where does DK find these fighting gorillas?
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 12:29PM

"The majority of Americans want us out of Iraq and I place myself within that majority. I also see no point in some elongated presence in Iraq for the purposes of "nation building" as this seems totally in opposition to the principles we as a nation were founded upon which is freedom for ourselves and everyone else to choose as they will."

so what about every other conflict? aren't we all there still with no chance of leaving any time soon? what makes Iraq any different? if someone wants to say we are there for oil then Iraq is the perfect place to base operations from, right?
Placelowerplace Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 12:51PM

I know the occupation of Iraq has to do with Israel and Iran. I didn't understand why Saddam was removed from his position as the leader of Iraq. Saddam had that country under control. Their culture would have evolved when it was/is ready to unite. Logic would dictate that if Osama bin laden is the perpetrators to the events of September 11 2001, then we should hunt him down and bring him to justice. so now we (USA Military focus) segwayed to Iraq. Ok, so how do we deal with that is the question rather than why. We (USA) must go it to "enemy" territory, Break and destroy everything possible and then plant a flag there and/or leave it to ruin. Logic dictates that the steps have nothing to do with what is really happening. We have illusive tyrants that are missing and we have child governments being told what to do by corporations and sadly to say the UN has been gagged at any level of protest. The UN is in place to prevent exactly what is happening, which tells me that the UN voice is as meaningful to corporation driven countries as the dodo bird. The Iraqi condition is just a symptom of a greater darkness. George Bush roll in most of this is bargained my being able to settle a score between G.Bush Sr. and Saddam Hussein and by doing so he opened the flood gates of corporate greed.

Al Gore most likely won the elections in 2000. not that I voted for him. The Clintons stripped this country of its military in order to regenerate new revenues. So after all has been said and done, people in general were and are burned out on trying to pay attention to the facts. Look what it has gotten. Though I feel no direct responsibility for My country's decision to make a war in Iraq as opposed to Afghanistan or where ever the hell Osama is, I Still Am a United States Citizen, Born and Breed and that is not only an honor but it makes me responsible as well. If I say it is not my fault, then I have no control over my country. I can only make changes when I am accompanied by my fellow patriots who feel responsible for their country as well. America, It is time we take back what is ours. Bring back the constitution and allow other countries to decide for themselves what their needs are. Wake up!!!!
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 12:52PM

we're still in Germany i don't think so
we're still in s. Korea for...the hookers? i don't think so.
Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 01:09PM

S.Korea has some damn good hookers!
Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 01:47PM

Is this shit from adcbeast?
Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 02:54PM

I also say no to tranny's
shaDEz Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 04:19PM

the people are not represented by the gov in the states, it is because we do not elect them
the media coverage is only for the two parties with the most wealth; the reps and the dems... they run this goverment like it is a business
it is why ron paul would never get elected... and what of ron paul? yes doing away with the federal reserve is a step in the right direction... pulling out of the world, militarily - ending imperialism to a degree, also
but closing the borders, and entirely pulling out of the rest of the world, aid, will only further alienate the american states... but again, he never be elected
the next pres will most likely be clinton who will not pull out of iraq... they are building an embassy there... really a plantation
Americans representing about 12 government agencies are providing the face of America in the embassy and regional offices in Iraq. The agencies include the Departments of State (DOS), Defense (DOD), Agriculture (USDA), Commerce (DoC), Homeland Security (DHS), Health and Human Services (HHS), Justice (DoJ), Labor (DoL), Transportation (DoT), Treasury, and the Agency for International Development (USAID). Agencies that did not recommend staff for an Iraq presence include Departments of Energy, the Interior, and Veterans Affairs, as well as NASA, Peace Corps, Secret Service, and Social Security.
just spreading the empire really, so no, mrs. clinton is not going to let that all go down the drain
and then iran is on the immediate horizon as they too are going to start accepting other currencies than fiat in exchange for their oil

so where are these guerrillas?
In a war of revolutionary character, guerrilla operations are a necessary part. This is particularly true in
war waged for the emancipation of a people who inhabit a vast nation. iraq is such a nation, a nation
whose techniques are undeveloped and whose communications are poor. She finds herself confronted
with a strong and victorious american imperialism. Under these circumstances, the development of the
type of guerrilla warfare characterized by the quality of mass is both necessary and natural. This
warfare must be developed to an unprecedented degree and it must co­ordinate with the operations of
our regular armies. If we fail to do this, we will find it difficult to defeat the enemy.

it's kinda funny reading mao tse-tung's "on gurrilla warfare" if you replace the word china with iraq and japan with america, isn't it... lol
and what are the fundamentals according to mao
arousing and organizing people
achieving intenarl unification politically
establishing bases
equipping forces
recovering national strength
destroying enemy national strength
regaining lost territories

"the question of guerrilla hostilities is purely a military mater, not a pollitical one" - jen chi shan
does that sound familliar?
such a simple point of view causes people to lose confidence, resulting in defeat... w/out a political goal guerilla warefare must fail
the whole people must try to reform themselves in the course of the revolution

the american soldiers were never seen as liberaters! and they do not have the training nessessary to fight in this type of war
but the imperialist goverment in the states does not care the cost of human lives... as long as it profitable and it is the poor classes doing the fighting for them
and it is imparitive that they send them to iraq, and when iran also follows, they will be sent over there... exhausted... america is going the way of rome
all because they printed too much money

but anyways... i sure could go for one of those south korean prostitutes right about now
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 04:28PM

maybe i was mistaken about the hookers? grinning
madmex2000 Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 05:10PM

Been my position all along......could have used the help a few years ago when we could have done something about it. Its truley to late to reverse the new laws that suspend our rights

As an American you cannot leave this country with out paper work...Your a fukn prisoner.Some people are waiting months for passports.

Hate to say it.....told you so.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 05:38PM

all you need is a good passport expeditor and 75 bucks.
no probs. a friends old frat brother has been doing this for 10 years now
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 08:59PM

Fossil buddy, yep we're still in many places in the world we have fought battles in, no doubt. My question to yourself or anyone else is simply for what purpose or real benefit to the people of the US ?

What benefit is there for us to remain in Germany or S. Korea or even Iraq for that matter ? And ..... if one can't realistically answer such a question with a logical answer the question still remains, why indeed are we there at all?

For myself (the only one I can speak for), I want ALL our international bases closed and our military brought home where they belong, on American soil. To me, at this juncture in history, I see no benefit in them being elsewhere in the world.

fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 09:15PM

we must keep a presence in the faces of our former enemies. the best reason i can think of is there must be a realization to them that we are not there to take over, but to keep the peace.
a benefit for the American people? you're damn straight! this presence also gives our future enemies a place for them to concentrate their efforts on someone else's turf. if we abandon all the people we have liberated in the past, the people we kicked out will just come right back and take over. Taliban, etc...

if we leave anywhere and try to lock down our borders it will be nothing more than an invitation for terrorists to come here and try some bullshit. locked down or not, there are many holes to fill before we could even think about this course of action. with all the dumbass pacifists around it will be the beginning of our destruction. we are already on a spiral out of control towards implosion, we don't need a kick in the ass to expedite our destruction, our own citizens are trying to do it for them.

i blame the fall of the roman empire on the roman senate. the people don't know shit! they never have and they never will.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 09:17PM

the whole "we need to pull out of everywhere and lock down" is thelast thing we should do!
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 09:48PM

good enough reasons?
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 09:53PM

I think you believe these are valid reasons, I just don't agree.

fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 09:56PM

you mean we found something we don't agree on? cool.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 10:11PM

as for you p-lo, and the Saddam deal, you don't really believe that Saddam was the answer to the middle easts problems? i sure hope not! he was inciting violence between all muslims as well as their countries. Iran now thinks they have some clout in the region, when in fact they are the next to meet their doom. as long as there are leaders that think they can irradicate their problems with force, the longer it will take for peace to ever have a chance and the more conflicts that we will be involed in.
yes we are the world police, that's part of being the greatest military power in the world. it is an incredible title to carry but those who oppose the U.S. are nothing more than children striking out at the man.

if Saddam were still in power we would be in the middle of WW3. as it is there is a window of opportunity to help the region into the 21rst century and leave the barbarrian mentality in the dust.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 10:11PM

that's all i have to say 'bout that.
shaDEz Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 11:06PM

The proposed Iranian oil bourse will
accelerate the fall of the US Empire

Krassimir Petrov, PhD

A nation-state taxes its own citizens, while an empire taxes other nation-states. The history of empires, from Greek and Roman, to Ottoman and British, teaches that the economic foundation of every single empire is the taxation of other nations. The imperial ability to tax has always rested on a better and stronger economy, and as a consequence, a better and stronger military.

Historically, taxing the subject state has been in various forms — usually gold and silver, where those were considered money, but also slaves, soldiers, crops, cattle, or other agricultural and natural resources, whatever economic goods the empire demanded and the subject-state could deliver.

For the first time in history, in the twentieth century, America was able to tax the world indirectly, through inflation. It did not enforce the direct payment of taxes like all of its predecessor empires did, but distributed instead its own fiat currency, the US dollar.

Here is how it worked. Early in the 20th century, the US economy began to dominate the world economy. The US dollar was tied to gold, so that the value of the dollar neither increased, nor decreased, but remained the same amount of gold. The Great Depression, with its preceding inflation from 1921 to 1929 and its subsequent ballooning government deficits, substantially increased the amount of currency in circulation, and thus rendered the backing of US dollars by gold impossible.

The dollar and gold

This led Roosevelt to decouple the dollar from gold in 1932. Up to this point, the US may have well dominated the world economy, but from an economic point of view, it was not an empire. The fixed value of the dollar did not allow the Americans to extract economic benefits from other countries by supplying them with dollars convertible to gold.

Economically, the American Empire was born with Bretton Woods in 1945. The US dollar was not fully convertible to gold, but was made convertible to gold only to foreign governments. This established the dollar as the reserve currency of the world. It was possible, because during WWII, the United States had supplied its allies with provisions, demanding gold as payment, thus accumulating a significant portion of the world’s gold.

In the 1960s, the guns-and-butter policy was an imperial one. The dollar supply was relentlessly increased to finance Vietnam and LBJ’s Great Society. Most of those dollars were handed over to foreigners in exchange for economic goods, without the prospect of buying them back at the same value. The increase in dollar holdings of foreigners via persistent US trade deficits was tantamount to a tax — the classical inflation tax that a country imposes on its own citizens. But this time around [it was] an inflation tax that the US imposed on the rest of the world.

When in 1970-1971 foreigners demanded payment for their dollars in gold the US Government defaulted on its payment on August 15, 1971. While the popular spin told the story of "severing the link between the dollar and gold", in reality the denial to pay back in gold was an act of bankruptcy by the US Government. Essentially, the US declared itself an Empire. It had extracted an enormous amount of economic goods from the rest of the world, with no intention or ability to return those goods, and the world was powerless to respond — the world was taxed and it could not do anything about it.

From that point on, to sustain the American Empire and to continue to tax the rest of the world, the United States had to force the world to continue to accept ever-depreciating dollars in exchange for economic goods and to have the world hold more and more of those depreciating dollars. It had to give the world an economic reason to hold them, and that reason was oil.

Dollars for oil

In 1971, as it became clearer and clearer that the U.S Government would not be able to buy back its dollars in gold, it made in 1972-73 an iron-clad arrangement with Saudi Arabia to support the power of the House of Saud in exchange for accepting only US dollars for its oil. The rest of OPEC was to follow suit and also accept only dollars. Because the world had to buy oil from the Arab oil countries, it had the reason to hold dollars as payment for oil. Because the world needed ever increasing quantities of oil at ever increasing oil prices, the world’s demand for dollars could only increase.

The economic essence of this arrangement was that the dollar was now backed by oil. As long as that was the case, the world had to accumulate increasing amounts of dollars, because they needed those dollars to buy oil. As long as the dollar was the only acceptable payment for oil, its dominance in the world was assured, and the American Empire could continue to tax the rest of the world.

If, for any reason, the dollar lost its oil backing, the American Empire would cease to exist. Thus, Imperial survival dictated that oil be sold only for dollars. If someone demanded a different payment, he had to be convinced, either by political pressure or military means, to change his mind.

The man that actually did demand Euros for his oil was Saddam Hussein in 2000. At first, his demand was met with ridicule, later with neglect, but as it became clearer that he meant business, political pressure was exerted to change his mind. When other countries, like Iran, wanted payment in other currencies, most notably Euros and Yen, the danger to the dollar was clear and punitive action was in order.

Bush’s Shock-and-Awe in Iraq was not about Saddam’s nuclear capabilities, about defending human rights, about spreading democracy, or even about seizing oil fields; it was about defending the dollar, therefore, the American Empire. It was about setting an example that anyone who demanded payment in currencies other than US dollars would be likewise punished.

Economically speaking, in order for an empire to initiate and conduct a war, its benefits must outweigh its military and social costs. Benefits from Iraqi oil fields are hardly worth the long-term, military cost. Instead, Bush must have gone into Iraq to defend his Empire. Two months after the United States invaded Iraq, the Oil for Food Program was terminated, the Iraqi Euro accounts were switched back to dollars, and oil was sold once again only for US dollars. No longer could the world buy oil from Iraq with Euro. Global dollar supremacy was once again restored. Bush descended victoriously from a fighter jet and declared the mission accomplished — he had successfully defended the US dollar, and thus, the American Empire.

Iranian Oil Bourse

The Iranian government has finally developed the ultimate "nuclear" weapon that can swiftly destroy the financial system underpinning the American Empire. That weapon is the [proposed] Iranian Oil Bourse. (Note: it was to have been opened in March 2006 but has been delayed and is even now not open. Its opening would almost certainly result in immediate bombing and invasion by US and Israeli forces).

In economic terms an Iranian oil market would represent a much greater threat to the hegemony of the dollar than Saddam’s, because it would allow anyone willing either to buy or to sell oil for Euros, thus circumventing the US dollar altogether. It is likely that almost everyone would eagerly adopt this euro oil system.

The Europeans would not have to buy and hold dollars in order to secure their payments for oil, but would instead pay with their own currencies. The adoption of the euro for oil transactions will provide the European currency with a reserve status that will benefit the Europeans at the expense of the Americans.

The Chinese and the Japanese would be especially eager to adopt the new exchange, because it will allow them to drastically lower their enormous dollar reserves and diversify with Euros, thus protecting themselves against the depreciation of the dollar.

The Russians have inherent economic interests in adopting the Euro — the bulk of their trade is with European countries, with oil-exporting countries, with China, and with Japan. The Russians seemingly detest holding depreciating dollars. If embracing the Euro will stab the Americans, they will gladly do it and smugly watch the Americans bleed.

The Arab oil-exporting countries will eagerly adopt the Euro as a means of diversifying against rising mountains of depreciating dollars. Just like the Russians, their trade is mostly with European countries, and they will prefer the European currency both for its stability and for avoiding currency risk, not to mention their jihad against the Infidel Enemy.

Only the British will find themselves between a rock and a hard place. So far, they have had many reasons to stick with the winner. When they see their century-old US partner falling, will they firmly stand behind him or will they deliver the coup de grace? We should not forget that currently the two leading oil exchanges are the New York’s NYMEX and the London’s International Petroleum Exchange (IPE), even though both of them are effectively owned by the Americans.

It seems more likely that the British will have to go down with the sinking ship, for otherwise they will be shooting themselves in the foot by hurting their own London IPE interests.

[For all these reasons] the Americans cannot allow an Iranian oil bourse to happen, and if necessary, will use a vast array of strategies to halt or hobble the operation.

Of course, a government coup is clearly the preferred strategy, for it will ensure that the exchange does not operate at all and does not threaten American interests. Feverish rhetoric about Iranians developing nuclear weapons undoubtedly serves to prepare this course of action. A nuclear strike is a terrible strategic choice [and] the Americans will likely use Israel to do their dirty nuclear job.

Unilateral Total War is obviously the worst strategic choice. The US military resources have been already depleted with two wars [and] the Americans would further alienate other powerful nations. Major dollar-holding countries may decide to quietly retaliate by dumping their own mountains of dollars, thus preventing the US from further financing its military ambitions.

From a purely economic point of view, should the Iranian Oil Bourse gain momentum, it would be eagerly embraced by major economic powers and will precipitate the demise of the dollar. The collapsing dollar will dramatically accelerate US inflation and will pressure upward US long-term interest rates. At this point, the Fed will find itself between deflation and hyperinflation. Deflation raises interest rates, thus inducing a major economic depression, a collapse in real estate, and an implosion in bond, stock, and derivative markets, with a total financial collapse.

Alternatively, it could take the course of inflation which would drown the financial system in liquidity. Sooner or later, the monetary system must swing one way or the other, forcing the Fed to make its choice. No doubt the chairman of the Fed Reserve Bank Ben Bernanke, who is a renowned scholar of the Great Depression, will choose inflation.

To avoid deflation, he will resort to the printing presses and monetise everything in sight. His ultimate accomplishment will be the hyperinflationary destruction of the American currency and from its ashes will arise the next reserve currency of the world — that barbarous relic called gold.
shaDEz Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 11:12PM

...and with the soldiers already exhausted from fighting a geurrilla war that they are not trained for, iran will be a disaster
so dk's propossed sollution is not a solution... it is just an inevitability

it is up to the slaves to stop the capitalist's war machine
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 11:34PM

nice post shadez.
reality, what a concept.

i forgot to tell you your new name is "shaggs". smiling
bouncing smiley

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 28/08/2007 11:36PM by fossil_digger.
shaDEz Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 11:51PM

shaggs? as in i am shaggy haircut dirty hippie or i shaggs plenty of chicks?
Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: August 28, 2007 11:55PM

All I can say here is, fossil, I can see clearly that your beliefs come from a particular point of view, you are at least a volunteer puppet.

Also, it was very refreshing to see DK speak out although my kids are part of the future here in America and I don't think that when our "higher ups" pull their scams all over the world my children should have to pay (in other words, don't act like a Bush Jr. to make people pay for Bush Jr.s crimes), although I have said right here on plus613 before that the majority here in the US do need to hit bottom before they finally wake up, it seems to be getting closer and closer, SOMETIMES.

The main reason for this post is to let everyone in the world know one of the best places to find the REAL answers is a book, Mrkim if you've never read it buy it today, it is worth way more money than $8-$16.00, it is "priceless", over 600 pages long and fact filled with some of the most shocking truth, the author does not try to sell the information to you he just tells it like it is
(investigates, he use to be a cop in L.A.), you'll see.

The Book....

Crossing The Rubicon by Michael C. Ruppert

Once you get started you'll just keep wanting to get more and more reality!

And don't forget to go on strike on 9-11-07...... 9-11-01, just ask yourself. Cui Bono (Who Benefits?)
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: August 29, 2007 12:05AM

a volunteer puppet? smiling
bouncing smiley
i'm noones puppet bud.
and that book is a good read for fiction.

"shaggs" because you seem to need one.....bad. smiling
bouncing smiley

let's put a "z" at the end for fun. ("shaggz"winking

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Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: August 29, 2007 10:22AM

Here is a 3 minute video, it gives you recent media history and the present, now, can you see where we're headed... AGAIN! Don't listen to the propaganda pushers all over in the media and their "personal opinions", once again just say.... Cui Bono (Kwee Bone- O) Who Benefits?

Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: August 29, 2007 10:24AM

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Spread it around!
shaDEz Report This Comment
Date: August 29, 2007 06:30PM

also there is a sick day on the 26th of oct
workers of the world unite!