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Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: July 15, 2007 03:05AM

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: July 15, 2007 07:01AM

Your link doesn't work, much like atheism.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: July 15, 2007 12:05PM

The link worked fine when I watched it late last night and BTW, thanks for posting it! I found it quite interesting, all 41 minutes of it.

BTW jgoins, it's all in perspective in ones thoughts about aethiesm. Works for me just fine.

Unfortunately few "believers" I have run across are free enough thinkers to even accept the simple thought that their ideas aren't the only ones out there with any validity about the concepts of religon.

Religeous zealots are in general the most closed minded sector of any society and have NO tolerance (as most all of their religeous teaching typically call for) of others ideas.

It's funny how most interactions I've had with believers play out once I tell them I'm an aethiest. They typically start out all sweetness and light as if I'm some poor uninformed creature who just needs the right guidance (which they can naturally provide if I'll just listen) and how they'd LOVE to invite me to their church and help me find their god and all the wonders belief in their god will grant me in my life.

Then when they realize I'm not some fucking unthinking sheep and actually hold my beliefs for reasons they can't overcome with their believers psychobabble they often get downright shitty and will tell me I'm stupid, unrealistic and condemned to everlasting hell for my lack of acceptance of THEIR beliefs. Yeah .... like that's a great way to win someone over eye rolling

In my perspective people of faith are just another form of sheep awaiting the commands of whatever leader they aspire to believe in and are all too willing to just lay down their own powers of reasoning for the much simpler concept that if they do so and live each day in service to their god everything will be ok.

To me, the idea of total faith in something that can not in any way be proven is the most rediculous concept I can envision, most especially when it means I should give up my own powers of observation and logical processes and simply ACCEPT all this on simple faith instead .... sheesh !!!!!

I heard long ago that religous philosophies were laid out as great teachings of simple good sense for those too simple minded to get the message their teachings lay out for them otherwise. I mean really, is it so hard to look at the 10 commandments and not see they are simply logical right thinking ideas in the 1st place and that in following them will certainly make your life easier and more rewarding and all the rest of the world a better place at the same time ?

Religon has started more wars, caused more human suffering from persecution by people of differing faiths, led to the deaths of millions if not billions of people and all from beliefs that are accepted on total Faith! Sorry, but I'll have no part of that shit, nor any of that blood on MY hands thank you.

I'll take my chances that my truths are what matter most and they all lie in the realm of absolute fact, not in faith in some unproveable god or philosophy thank you.

Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: July 15, 2007 12:12PM

BTW, the link is still workin, I'm on it now. I wish all believers had the acceptance of others ideas and the mental capabilities to at least realistically explore the possibilities their ideas aren't the only truths out there which this video does a good job of.
quasi Report This Comment
Date: July 15, 2007 04:45PM

I am a Christian but there is plenty of room in this world for open minded people who aren't trying to force one religion/agenda or another down other peoples' throats. The so-called religious right in the US is, as the saying goes, neither religious or right, and is not far from the same sort of zealotry that has given the world a brand of "muslims" that are willing to go out and blow up as many people as they can in the name of religion. My own take on Christianity is based on a song I learned in Sunday School as a very small boy:

Jesus loves the little children,
All the children of the world,
Red and yellow, black and white,
They are precious in his sight,
Jesus loves the little children of the world.

I would truly love for everyone lay down their guns and quit fighting, I don't like fighting, it's not just contrary to what I believe as stated in the little song above, it's contrary to my nature, but in the real world there are so many who want to take advantage of their fellow man and/or fight that it ends up being necessary to fight back. I like the philosophy of "I'm OK, you're OK" but when someone fucks with me or my country, I will fight.

MrKim, I'm OK, you're OK, wish everyone else could be. thumbs
ToucanSam Report This Comment
Date: July 15, 2007 06:17PM

The link worked for me. jgoins is silly, silly I tell ya.
Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: July 15, 2007 06:34PM

Alright, here is the catalog..................

Classic, can't get enough....

Watch this one, it will show you "Religion".... Can you watch the whole thing? Over 20,000 views per day, every day!

An Interview with God

Watch this guys whole page...... Why doesn't God ever answer amputees prayers?

This guy made some videos.... Part 1 of 6

Watch Part 1 and Part 2....... The guy that was so big in Religion that he has been to the White House and would talk on the phone with Bush, you know that guy that had a male hoar and a "pipe".... kicks the Atheist off his parking lot. What a joke!


And jgoin, say what you will, BUT, like you said awhile back.... you are going to believe in God, just in case, that way if there is a God, you're ok and if there isn't, well, then it won't matter...... we know why you believe....... Like I said before, do you have a brain, if there is a God and you worship him "just in case" then he'll know about it, you know, ALL KNOWING GOD! Change your name to FAKE!
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: July 16, 2007 06:31AM

Well, I am a christian but do not believe in organized religion of any kind. I do not go to any church and do not try to force my religious beliefs on anyone. If you want to be an athiest that is well within your rights, just don't try to convert me with it. Churches have destroyed religion with their own interpretations of religion so I stay away from them and hold to my own interpretations. I will not be converted, this is why I am so against Islam and catholicism for that matter.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: July 16, 2007 07:07AM

Unlike most people of faith, I don't want to convert anyone to my religon. Here's where a lot of believers get really lost in the concept of aethiesm as a belief structure since they 1st of all feel as if we believe in some anti-christ theology since we don't believe in god. What they don't get is that we don't believe in ANY god, period. No "salvation", no "here after", nothing, nada, zippo ! You live, make the best of your time here and then you're gone.

Now then, although I don't wanna convert any believers to my way of thinking, I do simply ask that they explore their own concepts of faith from a real world perspective and try using a logical brain methodology to inspect their own beliefs instead of simply accepting such a life impacting choice simply because their parents, friends and associates do so.

Try comparing the real world scientific info on what is known about man and the animals that once roamed this planet, which are absolutely verifiable, against whatever theological concept you personally hold and see if there's a way to reconcile the 2.

If you can reconcile the differences between scientific knowledge and theological explanations of mans supposed history without simply using the old "'cause the bible tells me so" cop out to explain how you accept the theological view of Mans history here, I'd really like to hear about it.

jgoins Report This Comment
Date: July 17, 2007 08:42AM

Well I reconcil those scientific facts with the bible by the statement that God created the universe in 6 days. Nobody knows how long God's days are. In the span of the universe and all space just how would one measure time? One miunte for someone who encompasses everything could be millions of years of earth time. So between the time he created the earth and the time he created man millions of years could have passed and all kinds of evolution could have occured on earth before it was ready for man. I also believe since he created everything and all the countless galaxies, that he was smart enough to create life on many other worlds and not just earth. Someday we may find out.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: July 17, 2007 10:10AM

And where in the chain of creation did he create man relative to the creation of the animals ?? BTW, it was hundreds of millions of years between when the 1st animals arrived and then mans arrival on the planet.

In a segment of the Google video posted here about an aethiest living with a Christian family for a month they showed a Christian tour guide giving a BC (biblicly correcteye rolling
smiley) tour of a museum of natural history. When asked about the differing views of Christians versus sciences perspective of the time line of the dinosaurs relative to mans appearance his response was simply that the data was incorrect and that man had indeed been present during the time of the dinosaurs eventhough there have been NO skeletal remains of man found that can correlate this assertion.

Hey FD, got any data to add here ??

fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: July 17, 2007 01:45PM

you can "prove" one suspicion while disproving it another way. the geologic time line, as we presently know it, changes every 3-5 years, and dramatically every 50.
when it comes to who came first us or dinos... i have to go with dinos first. why? suspicion
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: July 18, 2007 07:24AM

Given my suposition that one minute of God's time being millions of years of our time absolutely anthing could be possible.

One area I really differ from mainstream religion is they hold the belief that we are alone in the universe. I believe that God is all powerful and all knowing as they believe but I believe he would have been smart enough not to put all his eggs in one basket. I believe he scattered all forms of life throughout the universe and we are not alone.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: July 18, 2007 08:14AM

Ok jgoins, but that still leaves my question unanswered. According to Christian teachings who came 1st, animals or man ?

No matter what at least we are in agreement on life elsewhere in the cosmos. Though I'm unsure there's been any 100% verifable proof of alien life having visited our planet I find the idea that the Earth is the only planet among millions of star systems capable of sustaining life a very vain concept.

Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: July 18, 2007 02:45PM

It's funny how you get people today that won't believe what other people say, but, they will believe men from thousands of years ago, guys that didn't even know about dinasaurs and would have argued that, yes, if you keep traveling you'll fall off the face of the earth, it's simple..................

Man wrote the Bible....... MAN! Not "God"!


The sun is the "Light of the World." Just as Jesus.
The sun "cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him." Just as Jesus.
The sun rising in the morning is the "Savior of mankind." Just as Jesus.
The sun wears a corona, "crown of thorns" or halo. Just as Jesus.
The sun "walks on water." Just as Jesus.
The sun can turn water (rain) into wine (grapes) Just as Jesus.
The sun's "followers," "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass. Just as Jesus.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High"; thus, "he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12. Just as Jesus.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30°; (30x12=360 degrees) hence, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30. Just as Jesus.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified," which represents its passing through the equinoxes, the vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected. Just as Jesus.

schwetty Report This Comment
Date: July 18, 2007 11:52PM

they can both suck my dick
Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: July 19, 2007 03:47AM

"they can both suck my dick"
- schwetty

Are you a Priest?
jgoins Report This Comment
Date: July 19, 2007 07:08AM

Mrkim Wrote:
> Ok jgoins, but that still leaves my question
> unanswered. According to Christian teachings who
> came 1st, animals or man ?

As near as I can recall animals were created first, shortly before man. In our time they could have been around for millions of years.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: July 19, 2007 07:46AM

schwetty Wrote:
> they can both suck my dick

Careful there schwetty, stretching your intellectual powers to such great lengths can be dangerous ! Best save those precious few brain cells you have for important things like remembering to breathe and stuff nerd smiley