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Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: October 26, 2006 02:10PM

Idealogical? But what if someone (like the Iraqis) CHOOSES to not accept your ideas? What do you do then? How do you force them to think the way you want them to? Brainwash the children and wait for them to become the adults in charge? So we spend the next ten years in Iraq? But what if their parents (who may have lost loved ones to our invasion and occupation) tell the kids at home that we are evil, so don't listen. We should leave that shithole Iraq to rot and bring our boys (and money) home.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 26, 2006 04:13PM

and then spend triple the money and lives all over again in 10 years or less when the whole country and govt. has gone to shit. and you know it will happen....they will be screaming for the americans and the world to come bail them out once again.

it's a shame libs. and all the "get the fuck out" morons don't grasp that concept! yawning
Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: October 26, 2006 08:06PM

Well said.
Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: October 26, 2006 09:28PM

Fossil if you comprehend so greatly, why aren't you over there, what should be done in America is that there should be a huge poll taken, "are you for the Iraq war or against" everyone that says they're for should have one of the already dead Iraqi women and children placed on your doorstep, if you have family that's even better, then they can see what there parents "are for", now you may think this is sick but now maybe you can think a little further than your pocketbook, for someone that supposedly traveled the world you sure are shallow, sometimes I like you, then, when you come out with this petty talk I see the real you.

"it's a shame libs. and all the "get the fuck out" morons don't grasp that concept!"

.....the cocepts are murdered and tortured innocent Iraqis, wouldn't it make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside if you could fuck one up just to see there guts pouring out onto your shoes, let me guess, your a tough think'in guy that's never been in a war, oh, that was hard, if you're going to talk the talk, walk the walk.
aDCBeast Report This Comment
Date: October 26, 2006 09:33PM

What horseshit. The US can't win or lose in Iraq.

There is no enemy of the US in Iraq.

That is the lie the Bush admin keeps telling. Only morons believe it.

The only enemies in Iraq have been fighting there for hundreds of years. Sunni vs. Shia. That's it.

Bush has put US servicemen in the middle of a civil war that has raged for hundreds of years.

There is also no job to get done. That is bumper sticker thinker for Limbaugh listeners. And we know how low Limbaugh listeners rank on IQ charts.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 26, 2006 09:34PM

I'm a realist man. if you think that we should "cut and run" and not realize the global implications of what this would create, then you are truly the most naive person or persons on the planet.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 26, 2006 09:38PM

beast, you slid in underneath me there.....
"no enemy of the U.S. in Iraq"? tell that to all the service men that have died there along with their families. see how far that gets ya.
another futile attempt by liberals to discredit the republican party and save what they have left of any power whatsoever now or in the future.

aDCBeast Report This Comment
Date: October 26, 2006 09:51PM


The only people in the US that know anything about what is occuring in Iraq are US policemen in major cities. They have to deal with street violence of rival gangs evrey day.

US Servicemen are not policemen nor should they be used as policemen.

To think .. Saddam was keeping this fucking mess under control.

Bush fucked up big going into Iraq and he deserves all of shit he is catching.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 26, 2006 09:56PM

"Saddam was keeping this fucking mess under control"

AND AT WHAT COST THE TO iRAQUI PEOPLE? 1000's dead? that's the kind of leader we need in the U.S. when people don't do what you want, or go against the general Ice the mother fuckers?
do you have a bent nose?
aDCBeast Report This Comment
Date: October 26, 2006 10:13PM


Just because US servicemen got caught and died in the PREDICTED civil war does not mean there is an enemy of the US in Iraq.

It's like the average person getting caught in between two gangs shooting at each other.

Neither gang is your enemy. Especially when you CHOSE to be there.

I love that you are a die hard republican even after 80% of republicans in congress believe that US servicemen are dying because they are trying to play referee in the middle of a civil war.

You also don't like to place blame on the individuals who made the decision to have US servicemen posing as sitting ducks.

The families of US servicemen should be kicking Bush's ass.

But many of these families don't know the truth or are in flat out denial.
aDCBeast Report This Comment
Date: October 26, 2006 10:28PM


You need to stop believing the lies. Saddam did not gas the kurds. Did NOT torture 1000s. That is horseshit. The number was very small.

The US propaganda about Saddam is about to bite the US in the ass.

If Saddam is found guilty next month of a crime he did not commit. Iraq will enter all out civil war between Sunni vs. Shia with US servicemen getting killed as the innocent bystander trying to stop the fight.

The US will come home on Bush's order in shame all because the Commander in Chief and his administration was too inexperienced on foreign policy in the middle east.

You better know that Bush is thinking of pulling the troops soon to save face right now.

There will be no question in anyone's mind that Bush 43 is the worst president in US history.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 26, 2006 10:33PM

I don't deny the civil war comment....but it was not created by bush as you imply. you even say that it has been going on for hundreds of years. a contradiction of theory
I'm not a devout republican either. I don't agree with alot of the Republicanisms, but when it comes to Iraq i am in complete agreement with W. this is not a war of ideals or trying to force our beliefs down any ones throats, but a war of principle. suppressive regimes will not be tolerated by the U.S. or any other self respecting people.
before you list off all the other oppressive regimes, realize that all of them cannot be dealt with at once. you have to start somewhere.
Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: October 26, 2006 10:44PM

FOSSIL,realists, my ass, a puppet is more like it, I don't understand how we supposedlly were going to attack "the terrorists" then we go to Iraq and you say "YEAH' what a dork, yeah the old fashioned kind, here's an extra special link just for you, you'll probably think it's funny but I don't, have fun.

aDCBeast Report This Comment
Date: October 26, 2006 10:56PM


I didn't imply that Bush created the started civil war. I said he exacerbated what was already a volatile situation. Bush accelerated the all out civil war in Iraq. This would have occured well into the future without Bush's meddling.

Get out of denial CRAPPER!

What principle is being shown by US aggression in Iraq ? That the US can force democracy on people who don't want democracy? They have a right to choose the form of government they must live under. This was forced hence why it has been met with so much resistance by the Iraqi people.

The US has no business in removing the oppressive leaders of the earth until they become a danger to the US. Saddam couldn't hurt a fly let alone the US.

Saddam asked permission of US ambassador Gillespie before he ordered his army to invade Kuwait.

Does that sound like an arrogant, out of control dictator ?

You also have to remember that Shia were trying to kill Saddam. You do know that Iran is mostly SHIA right ? Iranian SHIA wanted Saddam dead. He did what it took to control SHIA from killing him. Seems reasonable in such a hostile area.

It also seems like you need to grow up and move beyond accepting the BS that the US says about foreign leaders.

Grow up CRAPPER!
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 26, 2006 10:58PM

why the hell would anyone think that is funny?
you....whoever you are, seem to be grossly missing the point! I'm not a war monger. not 1 bit! the fact is, whether right or wrong, civilians are the biggest losers in this conflict. why you say? because they are being used by their so called countrymen (who mostly are fighters friom other countries and groups who have come to Iraq to fight the "Devil"winking
smiley as shields to hide behind only using their deaths to put their dead babies, children, wives, brothers, etc... on T.V. the media war is fought despicably with them only airing the uglyness of war. they never air the scenes of Iraqis swarmiing the U.S. TROOPS THANKING THEM FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE!


fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 26, 2006 11:05PM

don't even try to whip out the "Saddam asked permission to do what he did!

it's a fact that he asked permission to stop the slant drilling the Kuwaiti's were doing.....not invade the country and take it over completely! JESUS MAN!

GROW UP? how about you get a little reality check and quit trying to convince people with half truths.
shaDEz Report This Comment
Date: October 27, 2006 12:51AM

ooo look he learned how to change the font colour
someone take that button away from him, he's irritating my eyes
aDCBeast Report This Comment
Date: October 27, 2006 01:18AM

US Troops are being thanked by SHIA. Enemies to the US. Nuff said.

Saddam was containing SHIA during the 1980s at the request of the US. Hmmmmm ... SHIA put Iraq (a real enemy) in danger of becoming annexed by Iran so we free the SHIA in Iraq.

What a fucking plan !

Dumb white boys that don't know the people in the region. Fuckin Tards. This is the problem with most US intelligence agencies right now. No real world experience.


you are a follower that doesn't know shiite.

Keep lying to yourself so you don't go postal and go on a shooting spree in Fort Worth. Someone has already beaten you too it there. You'll have to drive to another town to make yourself unique.


Hit some salvea. The colors will do wonders !
aDCBeast Report This Comment
Date: October 27, 2006 01:25AM


You really test the bounds of naivete.

Saddam didn't intend to invade Kuwait to take it back ? You do know that Kuwait wa a province of Iraq right ? Nope ... you don't know that. MORON!

Yup .. Good ole Kuwait was an Iraqi province that the British stole from Iraq.

Ding Dong! another conservative got served!

Fossil Digger is a Bush Apologist
Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: October 27, 2006 07:48AM

So Saddam killed thousands of Iraqis? How many are dead now because of the war Bush started? How many American soldiers are dead because we CHOSE to go into Iraq? How many hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars were spent to do this that could have SAVED American lives (medical research)? This is a bullshit war, in a bullshit country that is an ocean away from us. With our technology we could keep them under surveillance 24 hours a day. Any activities deemed dangerous to us and we smart bomb their asses. We have the POWER and MILITARY MIGHT to save lives. Why didn't we? When genocides occur in African countries we do NOTHING. Because they have no valuable resources. And they are the wrong color for us to care.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 27, 2006 08:34AM

apoligist? lol! there ya go puttin words in my mouth again. I never apoligized for anything that has been done, it's not my place, nor my responsibility.

Ft. Worth? Damn you're denser than Toad! It's Dallas. I am however going to Ft. Worth today to see the "Quest For Immortality" Egyptian exhibit today.

you 2 seem to be completely clueless as to the real deal. why doesn't that surprise me?

all these questions as to #'s. hmmmmmmm so what is the magic # for the complete abandonment of all the Iraqi people? once we have lost ______ we are fucking done! roll over and run like hell cause the magic # has been met. WHAT A FUCKING JOKE!!!!! this operation, conflict or whatever you care to call it is yeeeeeears from being complete. the more you pussies bitch about it the longer it will take to finish. it's your kind that are contributing to the longevity of this by standing in the road and sqealing like stuck pigs, pointing fingers, etc... you are blocking the progress. we take 2 steps forward then have to back track and try to verify with the pussies why. sounds like every other "war" we have fought in huh?

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fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 27, 2006 08:50AM

i hate this new messaging system cause i can't backtrack and aswer all the questions w/o editing my comments.
so now you're claiming that Iran Isour enemy? dude how many times can you waffle on this subject?
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 27, 2006 08:56AM


the color shit doesn't work! or i woke up color blind this morning

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Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: October 27, 2006 08:57AM

You go beast! I'm in your corner! It's the 15th round and your ahead in the score cards by my count. Just keep your guard up, and watch out for Fossil's uppercut!
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 27, 2006 09:01AM

hey beastie, i think your mother is posting. the only person that thinks you have a clue. smiling
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fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 27, 2006 09:04AM

it's a good thing for you that the new system fucked up the vote on your "bullshit" thread huh?


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Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: October 27, 2006 09:24AM

Gosh darn American people whining too much Fossil? Darn that freedom of speech clause. Someone has to watch the watchmen. Maybe the government can put something in the water to make the people stop thinking for themselves, that way they will just lay there and accept the bullshit like cattle. This may go on for years, but when we finally leave, what then? If they do something we don't like we will have to go back in again and again. This side of the planet is our side and that one is theirs. We have enough problems to deal with at home. Over a hundred thousand of our troops are over there guarding Iraq when they should be here guarding the good ol US of A. Fuck the Iraqis.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 27, 2006 10:49AM

that's the attitude they are counting on. we have too much to worry about here so they can do whatever the fuck they want and we will leave them alone. thank god they are mistaken about the resolve of us and the world to bring peace huh?
yeah, yeah, yeah, what peace you say? there is much more work to be done before peace can be appreciated in the middle east. they don't know what peace and freedom is, they have lived under oppresion and warlords for thousands of years, they don't know the meaning.

i have to go to Ft. Worth now, i think the trafffic has died down enough to make the trip now. we'll argue later tonight, but for now think of another excuse to make yourself look foolish, I'll be looking forward to your response. smiling
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fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 27, 2006 10:52AM

"This may go on for years, but when we finally leave, what then? If they do something we don't like we will have to go back in again and again"

funny that sounds kinda i think i've said that for years now. eye popping
Anonymous Report This Comment
Date: October 27, 2006 11:16AM

Just Why Democrats Are ‘Dangerous’ When It Comes To America’s Defense

Thomas Sowell, the distinguished Stanford scholar, wrote on this page a week ago that there’s a difference between the major parties: “The Republicans are disappointing and the Democrats are dangerous.” We’d like to take this opportunity to elaborate on his second point.

We and our allies are in a serious global war against fanatical, determined Islamic terrorists who have declared war on America and the free world. Their stated objective is to kill all the Americans they can, eliminate Israel, control and enslave women, and in time overpower and rule with an iron fist nations from Spain to the Far East. They intensely hate our freedom and successful way of life.

While Democrats in Congress always assert they “support our troops,” their political policies and actions have continually undermined our nation’s fight to win the war on terror and defend America. Here is their national security record:

1. On missile defense of America — Democrats voted against it.

2. On the Patriot Act — Democrats voted against it.

3. On tapping foreign terrorists’ phone calls to the U.S. — Democrats voted against it.

4. On tracing terrorists’ money flow between foreign banks — Democrats voted against it.

5. On building a border wall to control illegal immigration and stop dope — dealers, terrorists and criminals — Democrats voted against it.

6. On interrogating captured terrorists — 194 Democrats just voted against it.

7. On telling the world (and our enemy) about a timetable for withdrawing from and deserting Iraq — this is Democrats’ retreat and defeat plan.

Think that’s bad? Here’s the Democrats’ national defense record for the last 40 years:

A. Democrat President Johnson misjudges the Gulf of Tonkin incident, pursues the Vietnam War until a liberal CBS TV announcer thinks we’re losing and says we should quit. So we quit and lose. The victorious communists then kill 2 million innocent civilians.

B. Democrat President Jimmy Carter during the Cold War withdraws U.S. support for our longtime military ally, the Shah of Iran. Carter doesn’t like his human rights treatment of Soviet spies in prison. The shah is overthrown, and Ayatollah Khomeini returns, seizes power and creates an Islamic nation. Opponents are killed, the idea of suicide bombers is introduced to the PLO, and Iran’s oil wealth is used to spawn and support Hezbollah, a terrorist militia that killed 241 Marines in a Beirut bombing and that lately attacked Israel. Iranian radicals storm our embassy, taking 52 American hostages for 444 days. Carter fails in an amateurish attempt to rescue them. Eight military personnel and eight aircraft are lost in a desert foul-up.

Democrat Carter, self-assured and well-meaning but dangerously naive, was responsible for bringing into power an Iranian Islamic regime that’s now creating nuclear weapons to wipe out Israel and blackmail the U.S. and Europe. Iran has further provided weapons and support to Shiite militia and death squads in Iraq and could provide nukes to al-Qaida, with which it has a working relationship.

After the Soviets meet the inexperienced Carter, they invade Afghanistan. Then the communists capture Ethiopia, South Yemen, Angola, Cambodia, Mozambique, Grenada and Nicaragua. The Afghanistan invasion attracts young Osama bin Laden, who raises money and recruits other Muslims to fight the anti-Soviet jihad. After the Soviets leave, this band becomes al-Qaida.

So Carter’s glaring weakness in dealing with the communists and Iran leads directly to both the current terrorist nuclear threat of Iran and the birth of al-Qaida, a group of mass murderers that would never have been possible if the Soviet Union’s Leonid Brezhnev had not been emboldened to invade Afghanistan after seeing an inept, appeasing American president, Carter.

Carter’s ongoing, worldwide damage to America’s future national defense does not end there. In 1994, civilian Carter goes to North Korea and negotiates an agreement that President Clinton and Secretary of State Madeleine Albright buy into. The North Koreans use our money and help to secretly spend the next six years in researching and building nukes. Deceived again by a worthless piece of paper, Carter becomes America’s Neville Chamberlain.

These Democrat policies and actions were not only incompetent and ineffective in defending the U.S. They also proved to be highly dangerous, creating the greatest threats to America’s future security — a radical Islamic Iran and a North Korea with nukes, either one of which could hand weapons off to al-Qaida killers. And Carter is still out there giving us advice.

Ronald Reagan inherited from Democrat mismanagement a rapidly expanding communist enemy, 12% inflation (highest in 34 years), 21% interest rates (highest since Abe Lincoln was president), a depleted military and a serious energy crisis. Reagan’s motto was “peace through strength,” not peace through retreat, weakness and accommodation.

He kicked communists out of Grenada and defeated them in Nicaragua, Ethiopia and Afghanistan. He supported those fighting against communist regimes. He attacked Libya’s Moammar Gadhafi, who much later surrendered his nuclear weapons program after America’s military captured the tyrant Saddam Hussein hiding in a hole in the ground.

For eight years congressional Democrats ridiculed and fought all of Reagan’s defense and economic policies. They said he was dumb, stupid, too old and a warmonger who was going to start WWIII with the Soviet Union. Democrats were proved wrong on nearly every vital Reagan policy. His tax cuts set off a huge seven-year economic and technological boom, just as George Bush’s broad tax cuts have done, creating millions of new jobs.

In the end, the Reagan-Bush administration defeated the 70-year-old Soviet Union, and communism disintegrated on the ash heap of history under Republican Reagan’s relentless pressure and determination to build a missile defense system to make the Soviet nuclear arsenal obsolete.

The present terrorist threat to our security did not begin on 9/11, but in the early 1990s, after Democrat Clinton was elected in November 1992. In February 1993, terrorists bombed New York’s World Trade Center. In October 1993 two U.S. Black Hawk helicopters were shot down in Somalia. Eighteen Americans were killed and 73 wounded. In response, Clinton withdrew our forces.

In January 1995, Philippines police uncovered a plot to blow up 12 American airliners over the ocean. In June 1996, Khobar Towers, which housed U.S. Air Force personnel in Saudi Arabia, was blown up, killing 19 U.S. servicemen and one Saudi and wounding 372 others.

In February 1998, bin Laden declared “war on America,” saying the murder of any American anywhere on the earth was the “individual duty” of every Muslim. In August 1998, al-Qaida blew up U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, killing 200 and injuring 5,000. In October 2000, 17 U.S. sailors were killed when al-Qaida attacked the USS Cole in the Yemeni port of Aden.

According to Michael Scheuer, a 22-year CIA veteran and head of the agency’s bin Laden unit, the 9/11 Commission report confirms that the Clinton administration had at least 10 chances to get the al-Qaida leader, but Sandy Berger, Richard Clarke or Clinton simply could not make the decision to act. The CIA knew where bin Laden was and the military had plans, but they were almost always called off at the last minute.

So when presented with 10 specific opportunities, Clinton’s Democrat administration never took any action that was effective or produced any positive result. From Lyndon Johnson in the 1960s to the policies and actions they push today, Democrats haven’t been just weak and ineffective in defending against America’s enemies.

This year, two other forces are feverishly working to undermine this election and our war on terror. One force is made up of elite national media based mainly on the East Coast. On several occasions they have given our enemy vital defense secrets. They also disgracefully report and relentlessly repeat only bad news. Such dishonest journalism confuses and deliberately misleads the American public. The TV networks have lost 50% of their audience and still refuse to change their one-sided news coverage.

The other force is represented by terrorists who are desperately attacking as many people as possible in Iraq in the weeks leading up to our election. They believe they can intimidate us like they intimidated Spanish voters in the wake of the Madrid bombings and affect our congressional election in a way that will result in our quick withdrawal from Iraq. But quitters never win.

As difficult and complex as the war has been, America has a very strong economy — with over 95% of our population employed and 70% owning homes — plus freedom, opportunity and a standard of living that other countries can only envy.

We’ve also been protected against further terrorist attacks by a strong, competent and determined president.
shaDEz Report This Comment
Date: October 27, 2006 11:23AM

salvia divinorum... hahaha have you ever done that before, beast?
i didn't too much like that stuff... was just too much for me
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 27, 2006 06:17PM

o.k. I'm back, and the exhibit was very good.

what did you ladies search up to substantiate any of this crap you've been spewing?

I'm assuming that the above anon. poster wasn't the same one i was argueing with (easy guess). pick a nickname or something people so that people can get an idea who they're talking to....pleeeeeeeeeease.

that was a nice post there most recent anon. should leave 'em speechlesssmiling
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aDCBeast Report This Comment
Date: October 27, 2006 10:02PM


I steer away from hallucinogenic substances. acid, salvia, etc.

Besides the drug testing that I have undergone for years, I fear kicking the ever loving shit out of someone like Fossil_Crapper while hallucinating.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 27, 2006 10:13PM



that explains sooooooooooooooooooooo much.

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fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 27, 2006 10:17PM

oops i misread your post.

somehow i might have stumbled onto something though
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 27, 2006 10:22PM

here ya go....imagine me in a bikini and kick my ass.

it would be the closest you could come.[]
aDCBeast Report This Comment
Date: October 27, 2006 10:58PM



I would anihilate you no matter what you wear or what condition I am in.
aDCBeast Report This Comment
Date: October 27, 2006 10:59PM

Thomas Sowell (UNCLE TOM) is as conservative as it gets. He is only qualified to speak about economics.

On matters of politics and sociology Sowell should keep his mouth shut. His oversimplification of every issue makes his comments a joke.

I love how he reasoned with the words of people with an axe to grind. That always makes your argument weak.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 27, 2006 11:10PM

"I would anihilate you no matter what you wear or what condition I am in."

ooooo, I'm scared
can you hear me shaking?smiling
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you're #1!!!!grinning
shaDEz Report This Comment
Date: October 28, 2006 01:45AM

damn that's fucking silly... hiding behind a pic of hasselhoff
what is this who you masturbate to... while not pretending to be, to deliver weak online threats?
aDCBeast Report This Comment
Date: October 28, 2006 04:39AM


Threat? LOL! I see you are a Bush suck up too. When you state a fact that would work against you, it is called a "threat".

I would annihilate CRAPPER. Just like Shawn Merriman would annihilate me. Facts but I have the ballz to accept them.

CRAPPER's blind worship of the republican party agenda has become more harried in the last few weeks. He appears worried that what he believes is going to be shown to be WRONG. and it will.

All the dipshits in middle america that believe Washington is corrupted by inside the beltway people are lying to themselves. Washington can only be corrupted by people across america. Bush proved people from Mass\Texas can corrupt the world.

CRAPPER .. The country will move forward in a positive direction without the NEOCon scum that have infected Washington during the last 12 years.
fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 28, 2006 01:29PM're so silly!smiling
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fossil_digger Report This Comment
Date: October 28, 2006 01:48PM

practice up on your "squeal like a pig, bitch" (post election) octave, we wouldn't want you to be outta tune now would we?smiling
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shaDEz Report This Comment
Date: October 28, 2006 09:16PM

me, a bush suck up? oh that is just too fucking rich!
aDCBeast Report This Comment
Date: October 31, 2006 12:30AM


I was making the point that followers of Bush all seem to buy into Bush's tactic of calling a fact that you don't like a threat.