Hey leland, unlike nearly anywhere else on the ol www, here you can actually say FUCK without gettin the usual boot or censored. Among other reasons, it's why many of us are such loyalists to the joint

Though our govt has been less than trustworthy for quite a few years, really more like decades, the current level of obfuscation of what is factual has finally risen to tsunami proportions.

With the NAS, DOJ, IRS, DOS and a long list of other alphabet orgs perjuring themselves, then getting caught at it, with no repercussions to follow, I dunno how there's any real hope left but to stand the system on its head and start over with a "get back to basic Constitutional governance" move.

A good friend of mine just found out he was on the No Fly list, which prompted him to implement a FOIA request to see what they had against him. Seems all he got was over 500 pgs of redacted BS, the 1st of which being that in the early 80s he was arrested at a protest on illegal immigration. Since that time there were pages and pages from differing dates, though it was all black ink except for the headings.

But no, obviously there's no domestic spying on US citizens .....