j- the guns right people are the ones who want to keep guns. This issue seems to cause brain freeze in people (on both sizes) where catchy slogans and oversimplification prevent real discussion.

Surprisingly, almost everyone agrees that guns are here to stay and that law abiding citizens have the right to buy a gun. There are some gun abolition people, but they are not main stream. Some version of concealed carry (mostly with a permit) is legal is every state and that is not up for challenge. Some guns are already not legal, and certain behaviors with guns will always be illegal because of inherent risks (like shooting in the air to celebrate).

The debate should just be about how and where people by guns, how and where they buy ammunition (and how much can be stored), exactly what the limits are on what guns people can by (i.e. fire rate and magazine capacity), and how hard do we try to keep the guns away from the bank robber in jgoin's post -- right now, when he needs a new gun, he can skip the gun store and make a private purchase at a gun show without anyone seeing that he is a serial criminal.

I am a gun owner, and I expect to always be. None of the areas under debate threaten that.