Jgoins - do you not read other peoples posts? We have tight gun controls here and it does stop some gun related crime. Yes we still have gun deaths and armed bank robberies, but they are uncommon. Home invasions involving guns are extremely rare as are muggings at gun point. As I previously stated though, being an island country means we have effective border controls to stop illegal guns coming into the country, and it's part of our national psyche.

My point is, your comment: "Gun bans only prevent people from using them for protection. It does not prevent people from using them for murder and other crimes." is too categorical. It does not completely prevent them from being used in crime, but it does significantly reduce their use for such purposes, if you can effectively control them.