MrKim: No doubt, I'm not disputing that the debt has increased under Obama. I'm disputing the claim that was made that it has QUADRUPLED since he took office 2 years ago, hence my asking for the proof of that, because that's frankly a fuckin' stupid thing to say. Even if it were true, the US economy was well and truly on shaky ground when he took over, the 'GFC' hit almost immediately as the US mortgage crisis caused the economy to implode, it certainly wasn't his doing. As I said, not disputing/doubting things have got worse under his reign, just arguing the ratios.

Here's the thing pulse, you have to dig much deeper and inspect where the policies came from that led to the mortgage industry bubble bursting that indeed caused the catastrophic international financial failures. Scratching the surface WILL NOT reveal the true source of the problem.

To be totally fair the previous administration defined the problems that led to the melt down, made their findings public and even attempted to make necessary changes that could have at least had an effect of minimizing the damage and were stymied by the liberal congress from then making the necessary changes.

If you want the facts, they're out there, but you won't find them by listening to the talking heads at MSNBC, ABC, CBS or many other outlets as quite simply they don't suit their liberalist agenda