When one follows the trends in these debates/discussions a single pattern seems to repeat itself over and over, here and pretty much elsewhere on the web too.

A discussion typically may open with a remark voicing disagreement about a liberal ideology, policy or piece of legislation being proposed, and maybe another voice will chime in with agreement or maybe not but inevitably the libs will all start spewing the same contentious blather. They seem totally incapable of entering one of these discussions without throwin out the same tired "you are a racist". "you must be a racist", "you're stupid", "You must be a Bush supporter", "you probably were a Bush supporter", "if Bush hadn't left things ...", "you only think this way because Obama suggested this" and all the other rediculous remarks of this ilk.

My question to all you libs is why are these same tired lines used over and over and over? Are you all so totally incapable of formulating real thought and couching it into intelligent conversation and thereby actually trying to hold an honest discussion or debate by making real points about your position that this is your only means of attempting to HAVE such discussions?

I LOVE debate and always have as I see it as a great way to explore opposing viewpoints or opinions. However, once either side of a debate begins to simply abandon the use of logical argument in making their case and begin instead to just throw out personal attacks and slanderous remarks (typically things not even germaine to the discussion) they by default cede the debate to their opponent.

With all that in mind are all you libs (maddie, madmex, toad(<-X) or wolfie) really incapable of discussion and instead feel that personal attacks and such crap really wins you anything at all is these discussions?

Here's a few simple clues cats : Keep the discussion focused and on target, cut the personal attacks, quit tryin to personify anyone who disagrees with you or your candidate as a racist and logically state your position or case instead. These simple points will make your own carry much more power and certainly make them come off as more than just schoolyard BS as it typically does in many of the replies here when the above crap gets to be a part of the discussion