MrKim, I agree with your last comments completely. Call me a capitalist, but the market will decide! Marketing and corporate BS will only fool some of the people some of the time and the truly long lasting organisations are the ones who give the customer what they want rather than manipulate what they have to make the customer think they want it. I'm also with Fossil on this one though and if I had stock in Microsoft I wouldn't be selling it. It will be years before Microsoft loses their market dominance. (By that I mean they are dominant in the market, not that their product is superior or anything).