Firstly, no-one coming to this thread late is going to read all of it and I can safely vouch for that.

Secondly: ShaDEz: capitalism can indeed resolve the problems created by an illegal workforce and resolve the problems those workers have.

- Lets take the workers first. Their problem is that they work illegally and are therefore not entitled to the same government services (what you all call rights; voting, minimum wage, health care, protection by the law etc). Yet these workers are still able to earn more than at home and exploit the US economy. Yet they too are exploited by the capitalist elite (farmers! :0).
I hate to admit this but the Bush administration may have gotten this right from a number of perspectives. By making it illegal with strict penalties to employ illegal immigrants the govt are forcing employers to act responsibly. The effect this has for illegals is simple: register through the proper channels or do not work. If you are registered you gain your rights. And you can negotiate your wage. You win. Business loses by having to pay a higher production cost (wages) but this will become insignificant over time as the higher cost of production is reflected in higher prices. The end result is more tax for the govt and less dollars bleeding out of the country, also an important factor in a country`s economy. Americans need not worry about those higher prices because as costs rise wages will rise to meet them and farmers are subsidized anyway (part of the pricing problem).
What is important to remember is that the illegal workers do want to work, they are doing it illegally because that is the easiest way
and because the industry favours those who cost the least.

- Business needs to be regulated and by incurring heavy penalties for employing illegals the govt is forcing regulation and price stability on an industry that is unstable and exploitative. Business always complains about this but over time it is the best solution for all parties as a fair reward for a fair days work is received from the market. That sounds like Marxism, but it is actually how capitalism works. The difference being those with the greatest responsibility benefit most.

ShaDEz, if you want Mexicans to be treated fairly and equally then you have to want businesses to be forced into using only legal workers and working practices. That means the workforce has to legitimise itself.

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As for the beating up and persecution of brown people in the US, well that has nothing to do with anything other than ignorance. Stop teaching creationism in your schools, that christian message of peace and understanding clearly is not working.

To whoever said that when you cross the border you have begun to steal. The irony here is that the illegal immigrants and the people who employ them are actually stealing from each other. Standing back to back and as one empties the others pockets so the other does the same. Around and around it goes. The smartest thing to have come from the Bush years is the legitimization of the US work force. Marx is dead, ShaDEz, let him rest in peace and look to the future.