To think that the problems with the economy is due to the presence of immigrants is ridiculous. And yet so many people are being bamboozled into thinking this way. What it is actually due to is the incompetence of the ruling class, what Marx talked about a bit in the Communist Manifesto, the bourgeoisie, to handle this economy. What is this type of societal economic system based on? Constant expansion, and profit. Simple fact is, that in this current stage of capitalism-imperialism and with the labor reforms, it is no longer very profitable to employ "legal citizens" in the States, but it is a lot more profitable to exploit peoples in other countries by imperialist dominance over third world countries, which has uprooted people(in Mexico, for example) in the tens, hundred of thousands, even millions, from their lands that they used to farm and forced them into the cities. And in the cities they were unable to find work once it became no longer profitable to hire them, so they were forced into the empire where they are either extremely underpaid in virtual slavery conditions, and/or driven to crime if they are not so lucky to get paid work, where they can be completely enslaved. Also this makes it sort of difficult for people to properly "pump water to their land if they live in the middle of the desert", because of what it does to their economy, it becomes difficult to afford such technology.

And with that I am brought to what was said about "this all being about theft, about profiting off of ill gotten gains" and how "the U.S. wants to share in the hopes that other nations will be friendly". First off, what about the ill gotten gains of the U.S. with much of the western territories. That actually at one time belonged to Mexico, albeit not the people of Mexico--and of course the Spaniards did take that land, to begin with, from the people that lived there before. Second thing that was said here, which is actually in dialectic nature with the first thing(and also within itself!), the U.S. wants to share in the hopes that other nations will be friendly, how does it demonstrate this though? Yeah, true some nations are friendly, but not because of the "generosity" of the U.S. empire, rather because the U.S. massacred whatever regime was standing in opposition to it, whether that regime was beneficial to the people or not(Iran, for example, is in the cross-hairs of U.S. imperialist conquest and its fundamentalist Islamic regime is certainly not beneficial to its people) and replaces it with a puppet government which is never beneficial to the people. So why does much of the world hate the U.S. empire? Because of its actions, not just recently, but all throughout its history, and the third world always came under one of the empires. Back when the U.S.S.R. (after Stalin's death the U.S.S.R. became a revisionist state and social imperialist, that means socialist in appearance but actually imperialist in actions-phony communists) existed the third world had a choice of social imperialism or U.S. imperialism, but with the dissolving of the Soviet Union, and return to Russia, which is openly capitalist, now the third world's only opposition to U.S. imperialism is Islamic fundamentalism, which is a monster that the U.S. created to fight the U.S.S.R.!

(And on that, what was that African country that had a railroad built for it by some other country, and when the engineers were finished there, they left without demanding some sort of pay back?)

Back to the immigration issue, what is this solution that seems to concern people here, and causes my posting to create such an uproar, this liberal solution? To get the people, "legal citizens", to pay for the "illegal citizens". But that is the only way to fix this problem really while remaining within the narrow confines of this system, by reforming this system. Bottom line is the people that pay, are the same people that suffer the consequences that come out of the bourgeois insatiable appetite for profit. But to keep the people from rising up against this system, when things get shitty for them, the ruling class twists it so that it becomes a section of the people's fault. They do this in order to get us to fight amongst ourselves instead of fighting against what we need to be fighting against, instead of transforming ourselves so that we can actually go forward if and when we do overthrow these fuckers, so that we can wind up going right back to this type of system.

Another thing is the oppressed nations, not just outside the boarders, but also within the empire. You have these Black Nations, and Latino Nations(and the list goes on and on), these nationalists which are in contradiction with your U.S. nationalists, that think that what is the right thing to do to attack the white man. To vilify the white man. Yes true, pretty much all of the suffering in the world today is because of U.S. imperialism, which is a system built on white supremacy, but how does, after some kind of revolution, oppressing white people fix any of this? That too is the wrong kind of revolution, yes we need to end this oppression of the Black Nation, La Raza, and all of the other nations, on the national level, and on the international level, but we have to do away with capitalism entirely and in every form. Yes a lot of white people are very fucked up, but a lot more of the white people think that racism is fucked up, some of those in which do actually say racist things sometimes, but are not necessarily aware of it, and those need to be struggled with and criticized in a correct way. Sometimes they might think, due to a determinist outlook, that only other whites would ever look out for them(and this type of thinking is also reflected in a lot of the Blacks and other races as well). That is also actually very racist(and determinist), but it is because of a wrong type of thinking, and usually due to a lot of bad experiences; which these experiences, if looked at from a dialectical materialist perspective is caused by what? Once again it is the way that this type of system pits different section of the people against one another racially, and in other ways, because people will do whatever is necessary in order to transform necessity and that is what determines the societal climate.