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Re: Image comments for this is revolution
Posted by: shaDEz
Date: 24/11/2007 05:56AM
duane Wrote:
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> Trust me, there is plenty of corruption here but
> there are more checks and balances to keep track.
> There is also free speech to complain about it.

i fail to see how there are checks and balances, it is more like anarchy
why is this society so damn lop-sided? why is there so much injustice? the less of this outward expression of capital you have the more likely you are going to receive a completely unfair trial...

yes it is true that there is freedom of speech, but that is really a half truth, as all of the media outlets are owned by the bourgeois... do you ever hear someone like me on the CNN or fox... which also only televises their truth, and when one of their investigators uncovers something that might be detrimental to the corporate empire that also owns the particular "news" association they are censored entirely and usually instead of that story being aired at all they take a look at what ms. Hilton has been up to this weekend... the only place where we really have freedom of speech is on the street, and sites such as this one; which also they(the ruling class) are aiming to do away with with new "thought crimes" legislation... making it so that anyone who talks or even thinks about some of the shit i'm saying here is to be considered an enemy combatant - a terrorist


duane Wrote:
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> I love my country and what it stands for. It may
> have its flaws but nothing is perfect. I think it
> would be great for the people to stand up and
> clearly state what they want but what your asking
> is to cut off your nose despite your face. I agree
> some changes are due so we can get rid of special
> intrests but the basic system works and it has for
> over 200 years.

no, nothing is perfect, and the socialistic world that we aim to gain for the transition to a better world - communism - is also far from perfect as there would remain antagonistic class contradictions under socialism...
even in communist society we will still have to struggle to transform necessity, we would still have to grasp and act in relation to the driving forces in society which are based in the contradictions between the forces and relations of production and between the base and superstructure, and the interrelation between the dynamics of those two contradictions(- Avakian)
... but the flaws that this system, capitalism, has are very serious, not minor ones, and no change other than a complete upheaval of this system is what is needed - really needed... the very nature of the relations of production and ownership
relations in which people confront each other as owners (or non­owners)
of things, which are to be exchanged—and more specifically relations in
which the appearance of equality covers over profound inequalities, relations which are
grounded in the exploitation and oppression of the many by a relative handful. In its most fundamental terms, this is
grounded in a relationship where a small number of people dominate ownership not only of the wealth
of society, but more fundamentally the means to produce wealth (land, raw materials, technology of
various kinds, and so on), and a large number of people own little or none of these things, and so must
sell their ability to work to those who do own them (and, if they are not able to sell their ability to work
—if they cannot get a job—they will either starve or be forced into other means, often illegal means, in
order to be able to live). Once again, this exchange—of the ability to work (or “labor power”) for a
wage (or salary)—appears to be an equal exchange; but in reality it involves and embodies a
profoundly unequal relation, in which those without capital are forced into a subordinate position:
forced to work for—and, in the process of working, creating more wealth for—those who do own and
control capital.
(- Avakian)

the basic system has worked for the last 200 years, but only for the capitalist class; for the rest of the people it has done nothing for any of us but caused us to be oppressed, to be slaves... so no, there needs to be the complete abolishment of this system which we can do...and now more than ever it is necessity
freedom lies in the recognition and transformation of necessity; not within the confines of the bourgeois right( - nic)
and this system is not needed by any of us either, it is the other way around entirely... capitalism not only created, but relies entirely on the existence of the proletariat class

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