While you guys are out there sucking each others sausage, there are a bunch of religeous fanatics out there plotting to turn you into hamburger. And thats worse than Pat Robinson and his PTL Club. Wheather or not anyone from the free world went to war with those mid-eastern, their main purpose in life is to take out at least one non-muslim. Twin Towers made up for a lot of those one on one encounters that could not take place. Now all you pacifists out there that think they will not hurt anyone, pack your ass up, go over there and tell Zarqawi or one of his cohorts Jesus loves you and see what happens. Its ok with me if they pray to Allah five times a day, just don't beat me up if I don't want to. They don't really care about the oil but they do care about their religeon. If you are Muslim, you can have all the oil you want and at a pretty decent price. If you are non-muslim, you will be killed by the price. Oil or not, the struggle is for the control of mens minds. An dictator can become much wealthier by opressing people and take everything they have than he can be by becoming an elected official and give it up in four years. You can be corrupt like a lot of elected officials do in any country, but that happens because the citizens put up with it. They change their constitutions to give up their guns, then the elected officials, change the constitution on their own to remove the right to free speach. Now how are you going to get it back? Are you going to negotiate it? Doubtful! Are you going to fight for it? With what, shovels and rakes and other implements of destruction? Remember, the military is under the command of the leadership. They are sworn to uphold their president. It is not their onus to backup your wants needs and desires. You gave that up when you gave up your right to bear arms. Thats guns, not short sleve shirts. When those folks that are already here want you to bow to the east 5 times a day and learn arabic, what are you going to do. Remember, you elected to keep Christianity out of everything, you didn't think about keeping islam out of anything. Another thing you should remember, peace and freedom have NEVER been won by negotiation. If you think that is not true, ask the thousands killed by Sadam in his own country that wanted to be free. If you give these people an inch they will take a mile, just like the communists. I firmly believe the average Iraqi citizen is a well meaning hard working person not unlike ourselves, its their leadership, and in more recent cases the leadership of the insurgents that need to be eliminated. Stop your bickering about the small stuff, find a common ground to fight this evil and do something for humanity.