Posted by: pulse [x] - (Moderator)
Date: March 26, 2008 05:51PM
Hi all,

Well it's that time again. We're doing a donation drive! Donations are via PayPal and you can use your existing PayPal account, or your credit card. You can also pay with a normal bank account from many countries if you create your own account.

Click here to donate via a sub-site run by us, in order to avoid previous issues we've had with PayPal. Just go to [xn4.org] and click DONATE and the rest will come easy smiling smiley

The reason we're doing the donation drive is it's, yet again, time to upgrade our hardware. But this time we're pulling out all the stops. We're buying by far the biggest boxes we've ever had, with the hope that the 613 sites will be able to process far more views, at a higher speed, than ever before. On top of this, bandwidth costs are now reaching into hundreds of dollars per month, and DK and I simply can't continue subsidising this at the current rate.

Put simply, we need donations, or the sites will die. And I'm betting on people being generous enough to help us keep the sites alive, hence doing the new hardware purchase.

So please don't let us down! Dig deep, and let's ensure that 613 stays alive for a long time to come! Please give it a shot and report back here if you're successful or not ..

Thanks!
pulse & dk


-- PS sorry for the new thread, I broke the last one! smiling smiley



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 25/04/2008 05:37PM by DarkKlown.
Posted by: woberto [x] - (59.154.144.---)
Date: March 26, 2008 08:09PM
The old thread needed a clean up. Too many people talking about off-topic stuff and making the whole thing hard to follow. I mean it's just like the Dallas Cowboys, and that thing with the whatchamacallit, you know, that you get on the Porn site but not here. And then the gun laws in America get everyone fired up and it all degenerates into a slanging match. Actually that was a different thread, oh well, have a drink on me.
drinking smiley
Posted by: Placelowerplace [x] - (Moderator)
Date: March 27, 2008 01:55AM
trouble maker! LOL drinking smiley
Posted by: fossil_digger [x] - (76.185.251.---)
Date: March 27, 2008 02:29AM
once
Posted by: pro_junior [x] - (24.21.92.---)
Date: March 27, 2008 06:03PM
burp
Posted by: woberto [x] - (59.154.144.---)
Date: March 27, 2008 07:02PM
I didn't know there was a Vancouver in the USA
Posted by: pro_junior [x] - (24.21.92.---)
Date: March 27, 2008 07:21PM
I did spinning smiley sticking its tongue out
Posted by: Placelowerplace [x] - (Moderator)
Date: March 27, 2008 08:06PM
yeah there is a vancouver in south washington state
Posted by: pro_junior [x] - (24.21.92.---)
Date: March 27, 2008 09:01PM
think he already figured that out...
Posted by: pulse [x] - (Moderator)
Date: April 03, 2008 08:28AM
Sigh, the fuckin' thought police over at paypal have disabled the account .. again.

So yeah, we can't accept donations .. again.

Not sure how to work this as we REALLY need donations to keep the site going (and pay the couple of grand I've just blown on a new server plus help with running costs) so I dunno, I'm pretty fucking fed up with them.
Posted by: Placelowerplace [x] - (Moderator)
Date: April 03, 2008 08:42AM
Kill porn613 or reduce it to like 1000 pages or so, make no attempt to gain moneys from porn613 and try to keep Plus613 a wholesome name that way.

thats my 2 cents worth
Posted by: quasi [x] - (64.215.250.---)
Date: April 03, 2008 06:09PM
I agree with plp. Porn is easy to find elsewhere but plus613 is unique and special. I really (sob, sniffle, sniffle) love you guys.
Posted by: pro_junior [x] - (166.129.71.---)
Date: April 03, 2008 06:33PM
I think that if you kill the porn side, people will start to post porn here again...so will make alot more work for mods or just accept it being posted here...
Posted by: Placelowerplace [x] - (Moderator)
Date: April 03, 2008 06:52PM
hence the reson for keeping it to 1000 page maximum on pron613. people post porn here anyways
Posted by: DarkKlown [x] - (Moderator)
Date: April 04, 2008 04:55AM
You guys have no idea how tempting it is to nuke porn613.. both me and pulse are totally over it (have been for awhile).. but alas both agree that if we did porn would flood this site =(
Posted by: woberto [x] - (216.9.247.---)
Date: April 04, 2008 07:38AM
I'm sure google are gonna buy you out any day now!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/04/2008 06:39PM by woberto.
Posted by: ORLANDO399 [x] - (68.202.151.---)
Date: April 04, 2008 10:51AM
Is paypal the only one out there,are theyre others?
Posted by: zxz555 [x] - (83.108.0.---)
Date: April 04, 2008 05:19PM
Sure, get rid of porn613, I never go there, it wasn't the reason I came here anyway. I would help moderate but I don't know how effective I would be, but yes I will help if it keeps plus going. Just give me the magic wand or whatever the mods use. Other sites manage to moderate porn so maybe *weeps* if we all pull together we can do it!
Posted by: pro_junior [x] - (24.21.92.---)
Date: April 04, 2008 10:20PM
not sure if this is an option where you are but maybe you could rent a mailbox and donations could be sent in the form of money orders...
I promise not to send you anything weird...well..not too weird anyways...spinning smiley sticking its tongue out
Posted by: Anonymous [x] - (64.12.116.---)
Date: April 08, 2008 12:24AM
Sure. Nuke porn613. You're just about at the right distance to be vaporized.

I hope you two aren't that stupid.

Porn613,imperfect as it is,definitely has its place. Truthfully, it's more true to the intended spirit of the internet (and your charter) than plus613 is.

At the very least, certainly no less......
Posted by: woberto [x] - (59.154.144.---)
Date: April 08, 2008 01:20AM
Well said El Dorado
Posted by: fossil_digger [x] - (76.185.251.---)
Date: April 08, 2008 11:18AM
but it's holding plus back from being all it could be. the money made from advertising on porn powers most of both sited. so there must be more donations collected to keep plus on to keep plus from going commercial or being "nuked". either way porn must die to keep plus "aquireable"/ desireable
Posted by: pulse [x] - (Moderator)
Date: April 08, 2008 07:39PM
You don't look at the porn site that often, do you? smiling smiley

There is no advertising there. There's no advertising here. And at the moment we can't accept donations, again. Therefore, there is ZERO income from either site, so both sites currently contribute 100% to running costs.

Right now, both sites are 100% financial burdon on myself and DK. And with the new server we've bought (which is ready to ship to its new home) it's sunk us a few thousand more into the red.

The donations we received over that 1 or 2 week period is the ONLY cash that's come in for around 3 years on these sites. The running costs in that time are well into 5 figures that we've spent, hence why we were asking for a hand to pay for it all. DK and I have both bought new houses, we've both got real lives going on.. when this was all started we were younger and the cash was spare. But now with the missus asking why in hell we're still funding it, and the interest rates on the mortgage going up what seems to be daily, the cash is quite simply better spent elsewhere.

Advertising isn't an option because any of the major players won't touch us (eg google ads or doubleclick), the porn ads are only suitable for the porn site, and even then it's almost impossible to find one that pays per click or (ideally) per impression. Sure, it's great if people sign up, we'd get maybe $40 per signup from some of them -- except the general rule of the visitors to a free porn site is that they're not going to go and pay for access to one. In the year we tried advertising on the porn site, we got effectively $0, hence why we don't run the ads anymore.

I'll figure out a way to accept donations again, but even that I'm not sure will contribute heavily to the running costs. We're not looking for 100% coverage, just a hand with them. We're not trying to profit, that's not what these sites were about.
Posted by: quasi [x] - (64.215.250.---)
Date: April 13, 2008 09:54AM
Sounds like the post office box is currently the only alternative. You're bound to get some weird stuff, and exchange rates would have to be dealt with, but what else is there?
Posted by: pulse [x] - (Moderator)
Date: April 18, 2008 10:25AM
Problem is it costs $10-20 to cash a foreign cheque, or about $10-20 for people to draw a cheque in Australian dollars... So yeah, cash would be really the only useful option and sending cash overseas is probably not the best idea smiling smiley

We'll figure it out..
Posted by: pro_junior [x] - (24.21.92.---)
Date: July 14, 2008 08:52PM
i don't really know much about ccbill.com, but may work for donations...although it looks like a % would go to them...
Posted by: pulse [x] - (Moderator)
Date: July 18, 2008 04:27AM
Thanks PJ, I'll check it out. They seem to have a fairly high cut though (around 17%) and I can't find anywhere if they're even available to Australia.. it looks more like an e-cheque system than a direct credit card transaction provider.

I'll be looking into getting something up and running fairly soon though, but we'll see.

On the plus side, the server has had 33 day uptime so far! So it looks like that's cleared up a little bit (though I've likely cursed it now!)

Wheeee
Posted by: woberto [x] - (123.200.215.---)
Date: July 20, 2008 09:23AM
Whirrrrr
Posted by: zxz555 [x] - (83.108.35.---)
Date: July 23, 2008 03:39PM
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 23/07/2008 07:21PM by zxz555.
Posted by: drdna [x] - (71.198.145.---)
Date: October 07, 2008 11:45PM
When will I be able to donate? sad smiley
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