dv8 Report This Comment Date: September 29, 2009 05:26AM
CHICAGO — Cell phone footage showing a group of teens viciously kicking and
striking a 16-year-old honors student with splintered railroad ties. the student
was just at the wrong place, wrong time and was killed.
frankzilla-1970 Report This Comment Date: September 29, 2009 07:39AM
thats just an excuse. wrong place wrong time my arse. just a bunch of animals
using that for an excuse to kill.
jgoins Report This Comment Date: September 29, 2009 10:59AM
It is going to get worse.
maddie Report This Comment Date: September 29, 2009 01:18PM
i hope so. They can kill each other all day i hope. Its not a bad thing jgroin.
Jgroin your outlook is like that guy in a crowd holding the sign,"THE END
IS NEAR".
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: September 29, 2009 03:57PM
the saddest thing about demo-twerps is that they are so blind to reality, they
think marxism is the answer.
as for the post....just another example of a lynch mob...yes they can be black.
maddie Report This Comment Date: September 29, 2009 04:08PM
Shit the only MARXism you've experienced is from Black and White John WAyne WAr
movies.
Wolfgang613 Report This Comment Date: September 29, 2009 04:54PM
No, maddie, That was propaganda, and since we won it is not considered to be
bad thing. Marxism is extreme atheists trying to stop the us of the word
Christmas in schools because it has some religious meaning behind it.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: September 29, 2009 07:40PM
Black on black violence or black on white violence is statically a multiple of
white on white violence and assuredly white on black violence, at least here in
the US, but that's an awfully inconvenient truth to black folks who cry racism
every time the percentage of black populations in prisons are mentioned. Guess
that correlation just dudn make the synaptic passageways, especially when they
can just whip out the ol tired race card again instead
BTW wolfie, lots of us atheists just want the government to adhere to the
principles of separation of church and state defined within our Constitution,
nothing more and nothing less. Religious types only want adherence to their
right of religious freedom ..... so long as it's in agreement with their own
chosen religion
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 29/09/2009 07:47PM by Mrkim.
blinkermann Report This Comment Date: September 29, 2009 09:47PM
I just want to muddy the water with some more political definition
Capitalism is primacy of ownership (all value goes to the owner of the property,
asset, labor, vagina, whatever)
Socialism is all about fairness (in the extreme it goes all the way to "its
is not fair that some people are smarter, etc, etc)
Marxism is an extreme subset of socialism that idolizes the prolateriat and
espouses violence and spurns religion as a way to keep people in their place
Communism is a lot like Marxism, but more specifcally defines how things are
owned.
Totalitarianism is economic and political power combined for specific power
elite
Soviet style communism is totalitarianism dressed up as Marxism and/or
communism
The US is currently rather socialist with some strong capitalist underpinnings.
Germany and France (for example) have a little bit more socialism and a little
less capitalism. (e.g. employees get to vote at sharholder meetings)
It appears that the democrats want to take the US toward socialism a little (how
far? that depends on how long they have the white house and congress). This
might be good news, unless you are rich, smart (or both). Interesting, it is
mixed if you are good looking. If you are a good-looking guy, but not super
rich, you can expect more pussy as we move toward socialism -- though your extra
earning potential from being good looking is diminished. If you are a good
looking girl, you get the same amount of sex in either system, it is just worth
more in capitalism -- though you will generally have sex with richer, less good
looking guys.
frankzilla-1970 Report This Comment Date: September 30, 2009 05:47AM
wtf does an athiest care about the seperation of church and state for? you guys
dont believe in god or any dieties so therefore theres just the state as far as
you should be concerned.
frankzilla-1970 Report This Comment Date: September 30, 2009 05:50AM
so lets let people who have a view on religeon have the say of whether they say
a prayer in school. just like fools who dont vote the whine about then idiot in
office...youre not a part of the goup...GETS TO STEPPIN AND DONT CUT THE CORNERS
biznitch
jgoins Report This Comment Date: September 30, 2009 10:51AM
Separation of church and state was designed to prevent the government from
forcing the people to belong to one religion. Now it appears that it is being
used to promote atheism.
Black on black violence will never stay black on black so it is not good. They
are becoming more emboldened because one of their own is in the White House, how
long before total violence breaks out?
frankzilla-1970 Report This Comment Date: September 30, 2009 01:07PM
incase you havent noticed since the dawn of man, nay the creation of man there
has been all out violence. all you need is too much stubboness and lack of a
"give a damn" and you have some idiot punching another guy in the mug
for having a difference of opinion.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: September 30, 2009 03:40PM
why should an atheist care about church and state? isn't that obvious? no? o.k.
then, why would a religious person want their government to be involved in a
"moral" (according to them) foreign policy? (or any legislation
excluding somebody else's beliefs?) to inflict their religious values on the
"infidels"? hmmmmm
maddie Report This Comment Date: September 30, 2009 07:04PM
WOW, all good points, and i luv that seperation of church,that should be rule
number #1.
I can reason that.....wat do we gotta do next?
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: September 30, 2009 08:30PM
quit electing lawyers or anybody else that tries to sidestep the Bill of Rights
or the Constitution.
elect me (or someone like me)and you won't need to fear god, special interest
groups, offending someone because of their skin color, or your own govt.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: September 30, 2009 09:03PM
You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and
independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should
do for themselves.
......Abraham Lincoln
The Audacity of Unawareness
April 15th, 2009 5:03 pm Barack Obama, through his spokesman, claimed today that
he was unaware of the tax day tea parties. Granted, the MSM has done a good job
in suppressing any sort of coverage ahead of time (and the little coverage they
did provide was derisive at best). but how out of touch is the Community
Organizer in Chief, really?
This much we know:
- He was unaware that he was attending a church (for 20 years) with a racist
pastor who hates America .
- He was unaware that he was family friends with, and started his political
career in the living room of, a domestic terrorist.
- He was unaware that he had invested in two speculative companies backed by
some of his top donors right after taking office in 2005.
- He was unaware that his own aunt was living in the US illegally.
- He was unaware that his own brother lives on pennies a day in a hut in Kenya .
- He was unaware of the AIG bonuses that he and his administration approved and
signed into a bill.
- He was unaware that the man he nominated to be his Secretary of Commerce was
under investigation in a bribery scandal.
- He was unaware that the man he nominated to be his Secretary of Health and
Human Services was a tax cheat.
- He was unaware that the man he nominated to be his Secretary of the Treasury
was a tax cheat.
- He was unaware that the man he nominated to be the U.S. Trade Representative
was a tax cheat.
- He was unaware that the woman he nominated to be his Chief Performance Officer
was a tax cheat.
- He was unaware that the man he nominated to be #2 at the Environmental
Protection Agency was under investigation for mismanaging $25 million in EPA
grants.
PLEASE,,, there are people in comas that are more aware of world affairs than
this guy.
frankzilla-1970 Report This Comment Date: October 01, 2009 02:14AM
because an athiest doesnt have any views on religeon. they dont bvelieve in it.
period. but anyone can have a morality issue.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: October 01, 2009 02:53AM
i would beg to differ on the point of Atheists not having views on religion,
most are twice as informed on the facts.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: October 01, 2009 03:02AM
I can only mention why I want separation of church and state, but here
goes.
The Constitution guarantees there's supposed to be no collusion of church and
state in the beginning because they feared it would lead as it had in
England/europe in general where the church played a huge part in the policies
and governance of the people. The founding fathers (several of whom held very
atheistic views of religion) wanted the governance of the people to be BY the
people and without influence from ANY church.
Any time the government shows favor or preference to any church it opens itself
to claims of religious discrimination, and rightfully so, so again the idea was
to keep the 2 ideologies totally separated.
These all sound like good and proper logic so the question I always have to ask
is why isn't that acceptable to "people of faith"? So long as no one
is disallowed from worshiping their chosen deity, why is it that people of faith
have to carry that one step beyond and expect non-believers to have to publicly
listen to their prayers, pledge allegiance to "one nation under god",
or feel as if we must agree with the idea of having "in god we trust"
on every piece of currency in circulation?
To me the answer is really simple. It 's because they feel as if atheists HAVE
NO RIGHTS simply because we have no religion and could never perceive that we
should have any right to even TAKE offense to these displays and practices as
blatant examples of the lack of separation of church and state
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: October 01, 2009 03:16AM
here's an idea....why don't we back tax the church to...let's say 1776, that
should bankrupt them enough that they will need to dissolve most of their assets
(land holdings, rent houses,etc.) in let's say a 1 year period. take all that
money and split it up between the states therefore getting their heads above
water. this will also, no doubt, cause a flood of tax money coming in from the
resale of said holdings. this tax money will be put to the repair, upgrades and
maintenance of our schools, roads, etc.
damn i'm good!
jgoins Report This Comment Date: October 01, 2009 10:28AM
I do agree with you Fossil that the churches should be taxed out of existence
but the people should not be forced to not believe in God. I have never
believed in organized religion in any way.
"In God we trust" or "under God" does not promote any one
religion because all religions believe in God under one name or another. If you
do not believe in God then why would those words bother you? I always thought
an open mind was a good thing so why close your mind to other people's beliefs.
I even maintain an open mind to Odamna and open to be proven wrong.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: October 01, 2009 02:03PM
that's not closing my mind to anyones beliefs....it's enforcing the separation
of church and state. people will still be able to practice whatever theology
they deem valid. research your church assets and tell me why those assets should
be tax free. most will have no purpose in the freedom of choice to worship any
deity they want. most church rental properties i have seen do not discriminate
what religion shall be able to own/rent/buy. they don't care as long as the tax
free money is flowing in.
church donations should be taxed the same as if i got a bonus from work (40%).
blinkermann Report This Comment Date: October 01, 2009 03:11PM
Atheists don't believe in God. They might particpate in religious activities
for fun or profit. They might even be in charge of religious groups. But these
atheist don't self identify. The people who identify most strongly as atheist
have had a negative experience with religion and are usually anti-religion -
quite separate from what they really believe.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: October 02, 2009 06:32AM
jgoins: Even though no specific "god" is alluded to it's irrelevant
as it is an obvious mention of some religion and since it is endorsed in a
federal way it still is an example of collusion of church and state.
My position in this is strictly that this still lies in direct opposition to the
Constitutionally stated position and has nothing to do with keeping an open
mind. WTF does keeping an open mind and strict application of Constitutionally
stated governmental policy have to do with one another? That line just sounds
like psychobabble designed to validate people of faiths agreement with having
federal mentions of "god", but lacks a logical defense of the argument
in relation to the strict application of law.
Blinky: To state that one must have had some negative religious event have
occurred in ones life to be vocal about ones thoughts on atheism seems a bit
shallow. No such event ever happened in my own life. I simply see agreement
with religion as something I can't validate logically or intellectually and
since these 2 always play a part in how things occur to me in the world it leads
me to feel as if support of any religion is indefensible when viewed in a
strictly logical or intellectual context.
Anytime someone asks me to accept anything strictly "on faith" without
logical reasoning instead is quite simple asking for too much
jgoins Report This Comment Date: October 02, 2009 11:06AM
How much would it cost to remove 'in God we trust" from all our money?
The pledge of alegience doesn't matter sinve it is not being used much more
anymore.
frankzilla-1970 Report This Comment Date: October 08, 2009 11:47AM
even if you dont believe in god, he believes in you
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: October 08, 2009 12:58PM
For me that carries the same weight as sayin Puff the Magic Dragon believes in
me
jgoins Report This Comment Date: October 12, 2009 11:38AM
Well he believes in you as well.
