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Mr Kim at a job interview
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Mr Kim at a job interview

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pro_junior Report This Comment
Date: April 11, 2012 01:17PM

fuckin a...I had a job interview yesterday with one of these douchebags

him: please describe your self using five words.
me: I don't answer bullshit questions.

I don't think I'm getting the job...
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: April 11, 2012 02:04PM

I heard that PJ (*facepalm*)

I've been interviewing both in person and online for a number of positions lately and man, what a gamut of bullshit. The really fun ones are the psyche eval/psycho babble ones, sometimes I have fun with 'em and at others I just try to fuck with THEIR heads clown

Like my most revered mechanical mentor used to quip "You gotta be smartern what you're workin on" (*binladen*)

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BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: April 11, 2012 02:18PM

The psycho-babble tests are one of the worst things ever. Most ask you the same ten questions over and over phrased and worded differently.
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: April 11, 2012 02:31PM

Yep, those are the ones that really piss me off. I find them intellectually insulting.

On a side note, I've never been one good at being on time for work, though when I show up I'll be there as long as is required. Anyway, one job I had when I'd finally drag in 15 minutes to an hour late my foreman would come up and say "Ok, so why were you late today Kim?"

I'd always ask him if he wanted the truth or a good one? Some days he wanted the truth and got it. Other days when he wanted a bit of humor he'd ask for a good one and always got that too .... which usually involved aliens, car jackings, tales of drunken adventures the night before or a good hot babe tale rock
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BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: April 11, 2012 02:57PM

They ARE intellectually insulting. I don't think they want to hire smart people, they want to hire professional slaves.
quasi Report This Comment
Date: April 11, 2012 03:54PM

The prevailing thing in raising kids these days seems to be telling the kids to just be themselves, it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks, and you are valuable no matter who you are. I think those things are true but somehow when one gets into the real world that stuff just doesn't apply if you want to continue to eat and have a shelter to sleep in. And then there's the war on bullying, again a worthwhile thing until one gets to the workplace and wishes to continue receiving a paycheck. In over 30 years of working for a living I was fired only one time after being at that job for over ten years for refusing to further assist a bullying customer after patiently listening to his bullshit for several minutes. The disparity between what we should be teaching our kids and how things really work when you're an adult is frightening.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: April 11, 2012 04:09PM

Boy, I hear you loud and clear on that Q. There is a vast disparity between the values we teach our children and the lack of moral equity in the workplace. Frightening indeed, and disgusting. I was taught to be honest and tell the truth as a child only to be forced to lie and cheat if I wanted to keep a job as an adult.
BlahX3 Report This Comment
Date: April 11, 2012 07:32PM

BTW it is illegal for employers to ask any questions that might conceivably betray your age, yet they all persist in doing so. How may job apps have anyone seen that did not ask when you graduated high school? Or College? Or times of service in the military? Or how many years of experience you have where ever, what ever? Those are all questions that if answered could give an employer an idea of your age range and I have yet to see an application that doesn't ask them.
GAK67 Report This Comment
Date: April 11, 2012 09:27PM

In defence of the 'psycho babble' questions, they are not designed to test your intelligence, they are designed to test your personality/attitude, and the reason they ask the same thing over and over is that people like you guys try and get around them and "fuck with their heads". Repeating the questions ensures they can get a measure of consistency. There is also a lot of evidence that they are effective, provided you know in advance what personality/attitude is going to work best for you.

As somebody that has done a lot of employing of staff over the years I have learnt from experience that a vigorous interview process is going to give you a higher chance for a better outcome. People can interview well and be terrible employees, so there is no guarantee though.

As for employees turning up late, I had a staff member that used to rock up to the office about 8:45-9am when the rest of us were there from either 8am or 8:30. One of the other managers used to complain about her being late and my response was always that I didn't care, providing she was putting in the hours and getting the work done. She was always there later than the rest of the employees. It would be a different story if it was a role that meant her not being there affected the level of service customers received, but it wasn't.
pro_junior Report This Comment
Date: April 11, 2012 10:51PM

my favorite excuse for being late...I couldn't find a bag to put my lunch in spinning smiley sticking its tongue out
Mrkim Report This Comment
Date: April 12, 2012 01:57AM

GAK, I sure waddn alluding to any concept that the psychobabble line of questioning had any intentions of testing my intelligence, nor do I believe in the slightest that's their intent. The seeming intention of this tactic is as you stated to achieve some sense of overarching consistency in an interview process.

That having been said, if a lair is of any decent caliber, these methods are meaningless and only trip up those too intellectually challenged to try and pull such stuff off in the 1st place.

An interviewer worth his salt should be well versed enough in body language, tonal inflection in the voice as well as the words and phrases the interviewee chooses in answering the interviewers queries to determine if they're being lied to.

It seems to me that the whole psyche-fuck concept in hiring relates more to HR peoples need to justify their position than it is in finding some greater truth or getting the best candidates for their companies continued success from the interviews they give (*facepalm*)

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woberto Report This Comment
Date: April 12, 2012 02:26AM

HR is up there with Astrology.