pro_junior Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 03:06PM
forgery for fun...
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 03:21PM
i dare someone to defend this document as real.
Onyma Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 03:26PM
Oh give it a break people, do you 'birthers' not grasp just how obsessively
insane you are? Next you'll want a video of the birth and if it was produced
you'll complain it's all grainy and not in High Def 3D. Good lord, politics in
the US is like arguing four year old children. "Did too, did not, did too,
did not". It's become standard to question all known facts, of course we
didn't land on the moon and soon the earth will be flat again in the US.
Stop and look at the real problems your country and the world are facing. Your
economy has been plummeting like a stone for 20 years and you're at most four
years away from losing the world economic dominance you have enjoyed since 1890.
You're fighting several wars you can't afford with no viable exit strategy.
Your position on the world stage and global opinion is at an all time low.
Still everyone is focused on a piece of paper because you're petty enough to
believe that only a 'good ol' Christian white boy' should be running the
country. You have your proof you asked for, now grow up and move on.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 03:34PM
so you have proof that it is real? or are you blindly following again?
Onyma Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 03:44PM
Even Donald Trump, your new ring-leader, has accepted it and said it's time to
move on to real issues. At this point you're more obsessive than Donald Trump.
There is such a thing as intelligent consideration of facts, and then there is
the understanding of when something has been settled. You asked for the long
birth certificate, you got it, and now you question what you asked for. At this
point I think the 'blindly following' might be self-descriptive. On this topic
you're four years old, you ask for proof but there is nothing that will make you
happy because you don't want to accept you were wrong. Just like an arguing four
year old. Have fun.
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fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 03:46PM
there's also the pulling of your leg going on.
sucker!!
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fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 03:48PM
exposing people sure is fun.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 03:54PM
anyone else wanna play?
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 04:01PM
c'mon Toad, i know you have a "brilliant" comment brewing in the
peanut of a brain.
pro_junior Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 04:06PM
I believe nothing.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 04:22PM
The non-issue obviously has its basis in racial prejudice and bigotry. Get over
it. All Trump the Chump has done is make a fool of himself in public.
No F_D, I am not a liberal or a conservative so don't bother harping on that
crap with me. I think for myself and if it looks like shit and smells like shit
I don't step in it. Right wing and left wing are two parts of the same bird of
prey.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 04:25PM
o.k. we have 1 person that thinks for himself.....any more?
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 07:09PM
wait a fuckin' minute here...did Blah toss the race card? damn son, sounds like
you are starting to believe liberal double talk. next you'll be defending
unions.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 07:11PM
The intentional and costly obfuscation of Obozos birth, passport and
educational records, hardly seems rational and would seemingly leave anyone with
a rational mind to wonder for what reason?
If I'm required to produce my birth certificate and in refusing to do so wind up
with legal fees totalling above a million bucks instead, most anyone would see
that as at the very least suspicious, with most folks feeling that my doing so
would seem to point to there being something I obviously must want to hide.
When Obozo does it no one seems to point out the same lunacy, nor the all to
obvious suspiciousness about there being something worth over a mil to Obozo to
keep outta the public domain that justifies that type of cash outlay. I find
this quite curious.
It's however not at all curious in finding the lackeys in the press and his
administration using the shop worn tactics of derogatory terms, claims of
racism, attacks on peoples intellectual capacities etc. regarding any who choose
to use their powers of logic in looking at this whole debacle and finding it
worthy of scrutiny.
Those so in love with Obozo will never even give pause to why it took nearly 3
yrs for him to get around to presenting another version of another
"Certificate of Live Birth", nor will they doubt his logic in having
spent over a mil of his own money in preventing this from being released, and
yes Virginia, they'll still proudly spout "racist, racist, racist!" as
their battle cry for any who do
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 08:27PM
is producing a fake birth certificate grounds for impeachment?
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 08:49PM
You can call what you like F_D. That changes nothing for me, however you might
want to save your pigeon-holing rhetoric for someone who gives an actual shit. I
was only stating the obvious.
Beat that horse, Fossil, beat that horse! <snore>
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 08:50PM
took a long time for you to come out of the closet.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 09:22PM
poor Blah. sniff sniff.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 09:33PM
What closet? I am free to express my opinions too. So what? Or is everything
political in cut and dry divisions for you?
"If you believe this than you must believe in that and that and that
too."
I don't feel obliged to allow myself to be herded into one flock of sheep or
another.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 09:41PM
but i hearded you right into the coral and shaved ya bald. it's o.k. B, you
weren't the first.
and yes you are free to express your thoughts (i want you to more than you can
imagine
), please do so
more often, this has been a hoot.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 10:15PM
sheepskin lined leather jacket for sale...cheap.
GAK67 Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 10:47PM
You're a legend in your own mind fossil.
pro_junior Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 10:52PM
fossil you remind of charlie sheen...
Hint: you are not winning just because you say that you are.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 10:57PM
funny how people change the subject when they get their dicks handed to them.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 11:20PM
c'mon all you Hawaiian birth certificate experts, tell me some more bullshit.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 11:44PM
you fools will never learn.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 27, 2011 11:53PM
whassamatter boys? sheep got your tongues?
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jgoins Report This Comment Date: April 28, 2011 11:14AM
If it is legitimate just ask yourself why did he take so long to produce it?
The CIA can forge any document they need to quite easily and flawless. I am
surprised it took this long to do it. I can find people who forge passports in
2 hours and it took him this long to obtain a supposed legit copy of his birth
record.
quasi Report This Comment Date: April 28, 2011 11:49AM
If it hadn't taken so long to be shown I would have considered it a non issue
but I too have to wonder why all the stalling took place - that's what makes
this so suspicious. Where was the transparency?
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fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 28, 2011 12:22PM
but Barry never lies
and his administration is transparent.
and Repugnants are racists,
since Bush did it, it's o.k. for Barry to do it also.
the people refuse to see the potential and greatness of socialism
feel free to add a few hundred more
GAK67 Report This Comment Date: April 28, 2011 12:58PM
I don't know what the rules are in the USA, but surely somebody other than the
person concerned can request what is stored by the Honolulu records department.
Surely somebody has actually looked at the records, rather than waiting for this
document to be released to the media. Even if the rules are that only the person
concerned can legally request what is on record, there must be somebody in the
records department (whether an opponent looking to prove non-existence, or a
supporter looking to prove it does exist) who would have checked and said
whether there was a record of birth there or not. Both sides need to get past
this and concentrate on the issues that really matter.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 28, 2011 01:09PM
the main issue is....is he a citizen or not..
period. if he is, then why
hasn't he done everything he can possibly do to disprove it? this is not proof
nor is it any form of an attempt to disprove. plain and simple smoke and mirrors
bullshit from the liberal cork soakers thumbing their noses at the moral
majority.
now Blah, rationalize some more bullshit for me i need a good laugh to start off
the day.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 28, 2011 01:38PM
call me a racist again, that was fuckin' hilarious!
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: April 28, 2011 02:36PM
GAK, each state has their own policies on records such as this. Per an article
I read Hawaii laws do not allow even the person named on the birth record to
physically see the original document but they can ask for copies of it, which
Obozo did, then presented to the media.
While I am sure this sounds like more conspiracy minded stuff, with such a rule
in place by Hawaii it effectively prevents any real verification by forensic
specialists of the original document, therefore essentially nothing can be
proven nor disproven by a digital reproduction of the document .... so doubt
still remains regarding the validity of the actual document itself.
With a matter as complex and of national importance as this the US Justice Dept.
could also overrule Hawaiis policy and require presentation and forensic
examination of the original document, though with that departments head as an
Obozo appointee, this will not happen either. This is unfortunate since
absolute clarity of this issue is what's needed to finally put the whole thing
to bed, and all efforts to do so, not only could be, but should be done if Obozo
is genuine in his desires once and for all end this controversy.
In the US our major issues at this juncture are myriad and certainly deserving
of attention, but when the question is asked if the sitting prez. is actually
legally capable of holding that office relative to Constitutional rules, that
too is a very reasonable question and deserves every effort possible to assure
the public of such a right.
Having read in many places that his 1st act as prez was to seal his birth,
passport and educational records that indeed gives rise to at least a reasonable
suspicion as to why this was done. One can couch that however one chooses, but
when it revolves around a prez who campaigned on "absolute
transparency" it sure looks decidedly odd to do so and the constant
derision of anyone seeking clarity of these issues by the press and the
administration itself only adds more fuel to the fire, not less
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: April 28, 2011 03:44PM
I didn't call you a racist, I said I thought that the issue has a basis in
racism and that's what I believe. If you take that as me calling you racist then
I am very sorry but you are wrong. Try to deny that racism is still very much
alive in America and that it does influence people's judgment. Yes, I dropped
the race card because I think people are in denial about it and it is a factor
and I see it in action in people I actually do know and I know that they are
racist.
As far as the legitimacy of the birth record goes, I doubt some folks would
believe any forensic conclusions reached about it by anyone.
As I have said, I am not a liberal nor am I a conservative so quit trying to
categorize me, you're wasting your time.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 28, 2011 03:52PM
so a basis for racism doesn't mean that i am one in your eyes?
i love double talk bullshit.
get out your kneepads Blah, Barry is gonna give ya a booty call real soon.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 28, 2011 04:05PM
another big time racist sent me this
scam?
you know all us white boys hate anything non-white.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: April 28, 2011 04:24PM
The only double talk is in your own mind.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: April 28, 2011 04:26PM
Blah, anyone with a brain would be hard put to claim racism is non-existent,
yet a valid case can be also presented that only whites are held accountable as
racists.
The actions of anyone can be racist, whites do not have a lock on that
capability, nor does any other race. However, racism is discrimination or
differential treatment of someone based on their race and .... differential
treatment or discrimination because of their race. What many govt regulations
effectively put into place is also discriminational policies as it then forces
preferential treatment of minorities which itself is purely discriminatory
against non-minorities.
But, remove all claims of racism from this argument and get to what is fact.
When you get to the core of this discussion the simple unavoidable truth remains
that Obozo has effectively sealed all personal records about his past and anyone
even asking why this was done is cast as being infantile or racist for even
posing such a question.
The burning question this raises to many people is why is it unreasonable to ask
every effort possible be made to make this information available for public
scrutiny? If open, honest and verifiable transparency of issues of such obvious
import is unreasonable, I fail to see how a logical case can be made against
asking for it.
Failing to allow release of these documents becomes at best questionable, if not
outright suspect as to why they would need to be sealed at all if there's
"nothing to see here" as is so vehemently claimed
BTW, even digital forensics that have already been done point to several
discrepencies within the released document that certainly raise some concerns
about what was released but I'm sure all of this will be vilified and swept
under the racist rug too
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fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 28, 2011 04:31PM
i have a Whoopi Goldberg set of corn rows for ya Blah, they're adjustable for
tiny heads.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 28, 2011 05:41PM
that guys computer in that last video is a racist.
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: April 28, 2011 06:02PM
F_D: Ha ha ha. Butt fucked by Obama and Whoopie cornrows in my hair.
Kim: Tell me something I don't know.
Take what I said for what I actually said or leave it alone. Now I am reminded
of why I don't discuss this stuff with you guys. Keep jumping to conclusions and
making assumptions but you're doing it without me.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 28, 2011 06:32PM
"jumping to conclusions and making assumptions"
is that the same as claiming that people are nuts for questioning Barry's
character?
or questioning everything without rock solid proof?
maybe it's calling people racists that despise the liberal ideology?
i'm willing to bet that it's nothing more than a scape goat for people that make
fun of your twisted reality.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 28, 2011 06:35PM
how does that foot taste?
GAK67 Report This Comment Date: April 28, 2011 07:11PM
Here's a thought - maybe Obama is happy for his opponents to be off on what he
knows to be a wild goose chase so he can get on with the real issues?
BlahX3 Report This Comment Date: April 28, 2011 07:12PM
I don't know how it tastes, you're the one eating it.
Learn to read Fossil.
Bye.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 28, 2011 07:24PM
or maybe he knows his ass is grass ( producing a false birth certificate is
grounds for impeachment) and he stumbled badly on the picking of his photoshop
artist.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 28, 2011 07:25PM
oh yes, i forgot Blah..."can't read"? would make it hard as hell to
respond to any comments here wouldn't it?
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 28, 2011 09:58PM
c'mon ya chickenshit Toad, i'm dying to hear your "expert" opinion.
jgoins Report This Comment Date: April 29, 2011 11:56AM
We;; I am racist and have never hidden it here but that doesn't aleviate the
doubt I have about the document Odamna produce of his birth. It is relative
easy for any of us to produce our birth certificates when needed so why didn't
he? Even as old as I am I still have my copy of my birth certificate.
Personally I think he was elected solely on a fear of being viewed as racist and
a desire for being politically correct in the first place. Now that same fear
and desire for political correctness is what is making people accept this
document as authentic. Step away from your fear people abandon political
correctness, give this document the scrutiny that is needed. For that matter,
take off the blinders and call the president on his campaign promises that he
failed to fulfill.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: April 29, 2011 12:24PM
are you still defending this farce Onyma?
